Looks good. How exactly will this be able to load the very complex ai things of age of italy mod? Every civ, every unit is different.

And the resource thing. In my mod some techs decrease cost for certain things. And in normal RoR civ bonus would need to be kept in mind.

This would be cool for making stupid silly AI's like Deathmatch ScOuTz RaMpAge...

As well as your "normal" ones as well...maybe an Assy rm practice for noobs since everyone loves chariots...

Looks good. How exactly will this be able to load the very complex ai things of age of italy mod? Every civ, every unit is different.

It will read the empires.dat file directly and use the technology section to determine the tech tree for each civ. It will use the tech tree to control what options are available and any validation performed.

And the resource thing. In my mod some techs decrease cost for certain things. And in normal RoR civ bonus would need to be kept in mind.

Resource tracker is more of a guide, but by reading key elements of the dat file it should be easy to give rough figures for resource requirements. Cross-referencing against technologies will allow figures to be adjusted depending on what techs are included (and should pick up techs which reduce costs too).


I will be working on the Welcome form this week.

So this will work for AOK and SWGB as well? And mods? How will it recognize mods? Will it recognize AOK mods?

If AoK and SWGB have the same "AI" file concept then it will pick these games up. Mods will also be okay.

Because mods are done within the dat file and the tool will read the dat file, it will pick mods up too.

Good. I hope it reads the dat file's line on pop limit (in case it was edited) instead of assuming a pop limit of 50?

Pop limit is stored in the empires.exe. This would probably need to be specified in the editor itself.

AoK and SWGB

They have a completely different AI system

Could you copy and paste examples of these files here so I can take a quick look.

;***Attack triggers***

(defconst USE_STONE_AMOUNT_TO_ATTACK YES)
;change "YES" to "NO" if you don't use stone-amount to trigger this AI attack.

(defconst ATTACK_TRIGGER_STONE_AMOUNT 9990)
;set the amount of stone to trigger this AI to attack.(max:9999 > value > min:-1)

(defconst USE_TRIGGER_TO_ATTACK NO)
;change "NO" to "YES" if you wish to use trigger to let the AI attack.

(defconst ATTACK_TRIGGER 1)
;set the value of the trigger you wish to use when you want this AI to attack.(max:255 > value > min:1)

(defconst USE_TAUNT_TO_ATTACK NO)
;change "NO" to "YES" if you wish to use trigger to let the AI attack.

(defconst ATTACK_TAUNT 31)
;set the value of the taunt you wish to use when you want this AI to attack.(max:255 > value > min:1)



;***Defend (stop attacking) triggers***

(defconst USE_STONE_AMOUNT_TO_STOP_ATTACK NO)
;change "NO" to "YES" if you do use stone-amount to trigger this AI to stop attack.

(defconst STOP_ATTACK_TRIGGER_STONE_AMOUNT 9989)
;set the amount of stone to trigger this AI to stop attacking.(max:9999 > value > min:-1)

(defconst USE_TRIGGER_TO_STOP_ATTACK NO)
;change "NO" to "YES" if you wish to use trigger to let the AI stop attacking.

(defconst STOP_ATTACK_TRIGGER 1)
;set the value of the trigger you use when you want this AI to stop attacking.(max:255 > value > min:1)

(defconst USE_TAUNT_TO_STOP_ATTACK NO)
;change "NO" to "YES" if you wish to use trigger to let the AI stop attacking.

(defconst STOP_ATTACK_TAUNT 15)
;set the value of the taunt you wish to use when you want this AI to attack.(max:255 > value > min:1)


;(defrule
;(timer-triggered 7)
;(players-unit-type-count any-enemy knight > 0)
;(players-unit-type-count every-enemy militiaman-line == 0)
;(players-unit-type-count every-enemy eagle-warrior-line == 0)
;(goal 15 1)
;(goal 14 0)
;(strategic-number sn-target-evaluation-continent > 9990)
;(current-age == feudal-age)
;=>
;(enable-timer 7 114)) ;refresh Timer for the PikeResearch
#load-if-not-defined ATZEC-CIV
#load-if-not-defined MAYAN-CIV
(defrule
;(not (timer-triggered 7))
(or
(and
(goal 39 1)
(unit-type-count-total spearman-line < 2))
(and
(or
(building-type-count-total stable > 1)
(building-type-count-total barracks > 2))
(goal 15 1)))
(current-age == feudal-age)
(goal 3 1)
(players-unit-type-count any-enemy knight-line >= 1)
(goal 1 1)
(wood-amount >= 60)
(can-train spearman-line)
=>
(train spearman-line))
#end-if

[This message has been edited by Basse (edited 09-08-2011 @ 11:59 AM).]

That looks more like a personality file.

In aok, AI and PER are mixed together.

Thanks Basse.


Short story -
This utility will not support AoK/SWGB.





Long story -
AoK and SWGB does not have the concept of build orders existing in a single list. In fact, the AI files appear to always be blank (from the ones I have downloaded).

The PER file contains all of the detail required for a computer player. It is built up by defining rules. I guess the script is run from top to bottom every so often, and when a condition is met the underlying statements are run.

If AoE had such a concept, then you could have:

if (age = 1) and (wood > 180)
{
   barracks_count = 1;
}

There should be plenty of other RTS titles which support build order lists. I will uncover these at a later date.

In the short term it means I can get certain functionality released earlier.

Why not create a real strat from humans a bronze in 14 or 15 minutes you only need 1 berry 120 wood don't need to lure anything then make pit next to elephants or berries simple a normal human strat in rm or in dm a normal basic strat.

Because the game engine is not programmed like humans plays. The AI can only do 1 task at a time, and they can't use strategies and only a few tactics.

Actually I'm the one that can only do 1 thing at a time . The ai is much faster than I am

Why not create a real strat from humans a bronze in 14 or 15 minutes you only need 1 berry 120 wood don't need to lure anything then make pit next to elephants or berries simple a normal human strat in rm or in dm a normal basic strat.

I have attempted this in the past, and actually had decent results. The main problem is that most of the work is in the PER file. Unfortunately, the game uses default PER files embedded into the exe. You can create scenarios where the CPU is very challenging on RM or DM with a custom PER. You cannot get the same results with standard RM or DM.

So how are you going with this Rasteve?

As usual, Rasteve pops up around August/September, posts some projects and news, to later dissapear for another year

But before he leaves he's quite ambitious, I'll give him that.
Sadly it are always big projects for which he lacks the time.

I'm already anticipating his next arrival.

Thompy, there will be a new Modding subforum soon, Suppy thought it was a good idea so it is a go

I wish I knew how to program like he does. That is the great thing about the Age series or should I say HG, it always seems to attract intelligent people with computer related skills. I only wish they had more spare time to make our spare time more valuable

it is a pity about Rasteve...what worries me the most is not the he isn't physically around, but the fact that even though i see him online often he doesn't reply me back.