I remember when they had just 40%. It seems the patch helped htem a lot

Not sure how ES can balance it.
I already made my suggestion.

Improve hussar and grenadier attack/hp/cost
and boost halberdier speed to 4.5

If they are worried about Otto being overpowered, they can figure a way to delay their early game (ie. less wood) but improve their later game (ie. church tech reduce cost)

This would make me happier than a simple nerf to German civ.

maybe ourk played 20k games with them in this patch?

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Russian strelet rushing is very effective in non-expert games.

Russian usage is one of the lower ones at 10.06% so those who do use them probably use them very effectively. In other words, their percentage isn't brought down by lots of new players using them (ala British).

Boost hussar and grenadier hp and attack and reduce their cost. (yeah, it boosts Otto, but also boosts crap civs)
Boost halberdier speed to 4.5 (boosts russia, but halb cannot even catch other infantry ffs)
Reduce longbow ranged attack but give bonus vs all infantry.
Reduce strelet, war wagon and dragoon ranged attack 10%
Let ruyters be only cavarly unit that has bonus vs artillery (like before that patch)
Fix war wagon obstruction radius, so artillery cannot hide among them.
Make German card 8 xbows, not 9 so like french and port
Dutch settlers 90 coin cost
German one less free uhlan per shipment
Otto start with 200 less wood.
Otto trade post card swap with french church card
but reduce unique church costs with it as well and allow millet extra second, koprulu and abbassid 2 seconds each faster vill production time so if they get them all it is 25 second production time like other civs.

I think this would be pretty damned solid.

It does not mention mercs, but I think the price paid by Germany with one less uhlan per shipment is fair enough.
The hessian jaeger 15 is too much for Brit, as for the rest I just don't know. I think the variety that Germany gets is more of a factor than the cost other civs must pay which is about 20-30% more.

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Nah. Leave grens as they are, better not boost otto some more.

Hussar, yes, but ONLY one, not both (I prefer a stat change, instead of a cost change)

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No. Cav fraction multiplier.

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Strelet? Wtf?

War wagon, bump it down by about 10%, OR range.

Dragoon, change resistance to melee and increase hitpoints by 30ish.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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No.

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Hell no.

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Instead of removing uhlans, remove 1 jaeger from jaeger shipment.

Drop 1 uhlan from the age 3 uhlan shipments.

realism>>>gameplay

its not very realistic if guys with a long pike-like-weapon who have a lot of armor (aka halbs) can be as fast as some guys who dont even have any armor and have nothing but a gun (aka skirms).

Boosting halbs would just suck big ass.
That would kill skirms FFS.
HI catching LI ftw??
(there are exceptions i know but very well armored guys cant catch LI, no way)

It would be better to lower the cost of halbs a little and to give them some more HP/attack cos halbs were meant to be slow strong HI which can protect canons very well and waste any kind of melee cav.

Nerf ranged cav somehow so that they cant kill halbs and halbs will be fine if they get some small boost like my suggested ones.

How soon we forget. It was like this before and Skirms were way too strong. I like how Hit-and-Run is working atm, Skirms do not need more speed.

Both Sterlets and Casadores are unique units to specific civs, being unique is a good thing.

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They dont have enough effort to put a green border around a team card that was meant to have it. (Just a side comment there )