Nice work!

Nice, but some corrections:

Life Guard Hussars
Nassau Halberdiers
Espada Rodeleros

I wonder why the hell the Ottoman RG Hussar is called a Gardener... should have called it a Timariot.

Where di you get that info? just curious.....

Royal Guard are 10% better than the upgrade to Guard (ie: 40% hp/attack instead of 30%)

and thanks for posting their name. the first time i saw Garrochistas, i was wondering what they were.

Robokku, you're wrong actually. Royal Guard Upgrades work like this:
RG Upgrade adds 40% to HP and Attack
RG Upgrades also count as normal Guard upgrades, so adding another 30% to HP and Attack.
So technically, Royal Guard troops aren't 10% better, they're 40% better. Very useful.

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"RG Upgrade adds 40% to HP and Attack
RG Upgrades also count as normal Guard upgrades, so adding another 30% to HP and Attack.
So technically, Royal Guard troops aren't 10% better, they're 40% better. Very useful."

They are 10% better than their gaurd counterparts (example: Guerreiros are 10% better than guard musketeer). I don't know if its worth it to buy royal guard upgrades tho. normal gaurd upgrade costs 600 wood and 600 gold, royal guard costs 1000 wood and 1000 gold (40% more cost for 10% better attack/hp).

Unless it works like Insane Sheep says it does...

There needs to be a good guide to techs.

Insane sheep is right

A normal Guard upgrade gives 30% increase (to HP/Attack)
A Royal Guard upgrade gives you:

A Guard upgrade (+30%)
AND

A Royal upgrade (+40% (toHP/Attack)

So, a royal guard upgrade makes your troops 70% better (30% + 40%).
So, they are DEFINATLY worth it. Very useful.

No,royal guard only 40% better than veteran(while guard 30% better).A French Voltigeur has 192 hp without extra card/arsenal upgrades,and a normal guard skimisher has 180,adding 10% of skimisher's base HP which is 120,you can check that out...

[This message has been edited by Plebus (edited 12-11-2005 @ 05:14 AM).]

That isn't true, if you watch closely when you get a Royal Guard Upgrade it will say (using Ruyters as an example):
Guard Ruyter Upgrade Complete
Carbineer Ruyter Upgrade Complete

It should count both.

Also note that the cost is 40% lower for Guard than RG, the bonus should then logically be 40% lower.

@Insane sheep,if what your said is true,than civs with royal guard will be severly overchanged when upgrading to Emperial units : 1500G/W,the same price,but an Empirial Voltigeur is 252hp without extra upgrades(a fully upgraded French skirmisher will have 288 HP,German Empirial Needler 264,Dutch 276,Spanish 252..if you are still not convinced,check it out yourself...),means 110% better than skirmisher,or 50% better than guard/royal guard(so the price is fare)...though I have to say the extra 400W/G for that 10% is well worth it,as arsenal upgrades which approximately half that much only gives 10% HP not attack.

[This message has been edited by Plebus (edited 12-11-2005 @ 05:57 PM).]

I agree. Price alone can't contitute a valid argument. This really just needs to be tested.

I've heard in a topic that there was a "bug" in that Royal upgrades were only 10%, making them worse than normal Guard, to which ES respond that even thou it shows up as 10% it is in fact 40%.

If Insane Sheep is right when saying:

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Then it makes perfect sense to me that they are both counted, 30% + 10%, therefore Royal upgrade showing up as 10% thus the illusion of a "bug".

I'm not sure anymore if it was one of ES guys who answered as i really can't find it in age community forums.

[This message has been edited by Robokku (edited 12-12-2005 @ 10:53 AM).]

The Royal Guard upgrade adds an additional 10% upgrade over the normal Guard upgrade.

When you see the two messages (Guard upgrade complete, Carabiners upgrade complete, e.g.), you are getting the 30% Guard and then the 10% Royal Guard upgrade.

The total benefit from doing a Royal Guard upgrade to a Veteran troop is 40%.

There's no way, IMO, that the Royal Guard upgrade is ever supposed to be 40% more than Guard. That would spending the extra 400 wood/Coin of royal guard yield almost the same benefit as the 1500 wood/coin Imperial upgrades yield.

the dutch have a unique muskateer right? I forgot what they are called, but dont they count aswell as the portuguese bestieros?

Stadhoulders are one of the Dutch special Merc Units available in the church for 2000Coin, which are essential 15 Elite Musketeers.

I find this post rather confusing and will check out the impact of the Age5 vs. Age4 Halberdier upgrade myself.

This has nothing to do with imperial units...