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mm8mm8
Skirmisher

posted 01-19-08 08:24 AM EDT (US)

I will present you a strat that I use(not cookiecrisp13 sorry

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the Ashigaru Semi FF
i have some success with it but im only a casual player-->im 1er lieut
here we go!

cards needed
-300 wood
-4 vills and 7 vills
-600 gold
-military age 3 card
-age 3 ressources crates

1)DISCOVERY
(200 wood start) build a shrine and all the villies on food Age(torii) ASAP with no idle tc time(12-15 villies) with 3 or 4 vills on wonder
first card 300 wood
(300 wood start) build a consulate with 3 vills ASAP and choose port
you must as well gather 24 wood
when you're allied with port build a shrine at 106 wood
age(torii) ASAP with no idle tc time with 3 or 4 vills on wonder
you can age up at 680 food its sweet

first card 300 wood

2)TRANSITION
1-2 vills collect the 3OO wood and the explorer make 3 shrines and set up shrine on gold
1 vill to wood
3 vills to gold
rest on food

3)COLONIAL
make a barracks with the travois
ship 4 vills
make villies and make them go on to food
send your samoura� to explore and try to annoy his villes with him

once your rax is up do 10 ashi(2X5)
ship 4 vills(second time)
you will have a nice eco
when your 10 ashi are ready send them to enemy base if he have a forward base go around it and try to kill a few vills in his base (try as well to keep them alive)
ship 6OO gold
try to advance to fortress ASAP with golden pavillion(~6 vills on it)

4)TRANSITION
make 5 ashi
~7 vills on gold
~7 vills on wood
rest on food
make vills and a few shrines
and see what ressources you need and set your shrines to it

5)FORTRESS
I usually ship 2 flame throwers but 8 ashi, 9 yumi or 5 nagi could be a nice idea
be aggressive and make ashi at your rax
continue to make shrine
you can as well send the ups for nagi, ashi(these guys roXx) and/or yumi
and you can as well ship twice 7 villies for a very (very) nice eco boost

here is the recs
http://forum.jeux-strategie.com/index.php?showtopic=54622
http://forum.jeux-strategie.com/index.php?showtopic=54608
http://forum.jeux-strategie.com/index.php?showtopic=54611
tell me what you think of my strat?
and excuse my english i normally speak french

EDIT:corrected by my father

[This message has been edited by mm8mm8 (edited 01-20-2008 @ 05:37 AM).]

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Red xerxes
Skirmisher

posted 01-20-08 01:18 AM EDT (US) 1 / 9

Love it,but its better with the 300w start,where u build the consulate so that the port bonus really helps.in 1]aging time2]increasing the effectiveness of the 300w shipment.i always like semi ff strats.especially with a good eco.GJ.

mm8mm8
Skirmisher

posted 01-20-08 05:37 AM EDT (US) 2 / 9

thank you for the reply

but ya its much better with the 300 wood start
but nothing to improve?

Red xerxes
Skirmisher

posted 01-21-08 03:42 AM EDT (US) 3 / 9

Well for improvement imo,a pure hi attack is bad vs li which will hit and run u to death .so i think going deep into his base is not a good idea,just keep his villies away from food for a while kill some if u can.but most importantly keep them alive.if they die so does ur forward barracks.the initial attack is a little slow because the travois has to go accross the map,then build and u are making 5 ashis at a time.so a big attack without backup isn't good i would say. also u could ship 5 ashis as first shipment.and attack with 5 built ashis.total 10.this will be alot faster distraction and u won't have to make costly ashigarus.so u can put less on gold in transition and more on food improving ur fortress time.here send 5 ashis first,then 4 vills or 600g.

mm8mm8
Skirmisher

posted 01-21-08 07:08 AM EDT (US) 4 / 9

i not do a forward base, i make my barrack back in my base
And you can also send 5 yumi imo against LI and you ship after twice 4 vills but not 600 gold your up at age 3 a little bit more slowly but your first attack is quicker
and i must say it it work relatively well against a china ff

HolKann
Skirmisher

posted 01-21-08 08:47 AM EDT (US) 5 / 9

I think this is a decent strat. It's nothing really spectacular, but a solid boom oriented FF. Ofcourse this will lose heavily against for instance an OIR, but against a FF this might be a good idea, cuz you will have a better eco when arriving in Fortress, but the military difference is small enough to keep the enemy army at bay untill Japan's strong units are backed up with a good economy. I like it. Merci bien!

Lord Berminator
Skirmisher

posted 01-21-08 09:20 AM EDT (US) 6 / 9

DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER OJS? (OP Jap Strat)

Okay well mabye it's not an OP strat but its still DECENT, as you say.

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[This message has been edited by Lord Berminator (edited 01-21-2008 @ 09:21 AM).]

mm8mm8
Skirmisher

posted 01-21-08 11:09 AM EDT (US) 7 / 9

Ofcourse this will lose heavily against for instance an OIR

not sure because you can always adapte and you can put some military age 2 card and some ressources crates for making military and passe fortress later
i think this strat is pretty much flexible

and i wanted what do you think about rec?(i think i have not played well but it was ok)

EDIT:spanishdevil copie me

http://www.gamereplays.org/TheAsianDynasties/task.php?nameid=japanese_semi_fast_fortress_guide

[This message has been edited by mm8mm8 (edited 01-24-2008 @ 07:32 AM).]

sirgrotius
Skirmisher

posted 03-09-08 11:30 AM EDT (US) 8 / 9

i like this. thanks. i got owned by it last night.

Eicho
Skirmisher

posted 03-09-08 11:55 AM EDT (US) 9 / 9

Im tired of Japan strats involving Ashigaru Musks... at least Cookie ones got nice screenshots and stuff.

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