"1st point: Read about the game, mate. They are in it, but none of them will be playable civilisations. They are tribes you can ally with or destroy."

Thanks for the info. I have been trying to find information about the Native American concept but have come up empty handed. Just vague references in interviews. It is a shame that they will only be allies in the game.

I like the idea of the USA being playable as a splinter civ from Britain but I agree, I doubt it will be in this game and will probably be held back for an expansion pack...(good marketing sense.)

They will definitely be in the exp. pack, but I doubt they'll be in the original game.

And it's NP, just trying to help

As for the natives, I think it's a great concept. Their playability would be limited (if not fun to start with) due to their obvious technological handicap at the start of the game.

But, ES have said you can build native units (and possibly structures) if you get to ally with them. And as the French can apparently do this easier, they will probably field alot of Indian units quite early on.

This will be a cool advantage

A good tip, Jakes_Button, is simply to read the interviews ES have given to date. The links for most of them can be found on this forum. And welcome to AOEIII Heaven

wonder how many native tribes their will be
certainly the aztecs, mayans, incans, sioux, iroquios will be included, but who else

Chances of the USA being in AoEIII as a civ: More or less nil. ES would want fairly unique civs; having a civ identical to the British would be pointless. Besides, we are dealing with European Nations with Old World Home Cities.
Chances of the USA being in the expansion: Very slim indeed IMHO. I think there’s more of a chance of seeing Japan in the expansion, especially if Asian colonization is explored, than the United States.

The Poles do sound interesting, but I think a Nation would need at least one New World Colony, even if only a small one, to be included. Still, you never know. Did the Poles have the capacity to colonise?

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Yes, they did, but it happened right at the very end of AOE3's timeline - in the 1850s, in Texas.

However, they contributed quite a bit throughout:

http://www.pgf.cc/heritage/poles_in_america.htm

I wouldn't mind seeing the Poles or the Japs in the game. It would add diversity, and add something new once a player has perhaps mastered the more straightforward civs - France, Britiain, Spain, etc.

I think civs such as the Dutch, Portugese & the Danes/Swedish or the Polish would certainly add some depth.

And I would love to see winged Hussars

The Poles might have had some importance, but there's at least 10 civs which have priority over them.

As unlikely as it is (as you say, some have priority) I'd love to see the Papal States in there somewhere.

Imagine the cool stuff you could receive from Rome

That and all the religious bonuses you'd naturally get.

And the Swiss Guard would be a cool unique unit - the Vatican Army.

wrong thread

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swedish are likey because they said in the campion you start of as a swedish guy and the russians did have colonys in the new world.

I thought you started off as a Joch?

I think there are quite a few nations that could easily be in here - most old world states had many people immigrate to the
Americas. Of course there are a few which are the most important - colony wise. ....But we already know them ones.

I'd love to see the Scots and Ireland, just so I can recreate some wars in Britain, but hey.

in the campaign u are a scot not a swede

but don't expect scotland to be in the game
you'll probably be more british oriented

Yeah, I was sure you were a Scot:

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LOL, they should get 'The Big Yin' to do his accent

But, no, they won't be in the game. Seen as we have the 'British' confirmed as a civ.

who cares if its a Britsh Dominated campagin?

It adds to the realism for that era

The Scottish colonised America and it would be great if they were in it but very unlikely

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Well, with exception for their colonies in the west indies and north america, they colonized indonesia.

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They`ll probable be in because of Brazil.

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Both had colonies but during this period (17,18th century)Sweden was stronger (siege of Copenhague in 1658 ). I think Swden is slighly more likely to appear than Denmark, but most probably they will be left out. That`s a bit sad.

And BTW, why must everything be concentrated on the colonies. The 30-years war gives a lot of stuff to play in Europe. Perhaps in an X-pack...
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Yes, I know the feeling. The wars of religion, English Civil War, Eighty Years War, Thirty Years War, Dutch War, Swedish-Russian War, Nine Years War, War of the Spanish Succession, War of the Polish Succession, War of the Austrian Succession, Austro-Ottoman Wars, Seven Years War, Revolutionary Wars; there's really no end to interesting wars in Europe in this period...

Still, I can understand how that model doesn't fit well with the traditional "Age of ..."-starts. And remember, by concentrating on one aspect (colonisation), we'll get a much more detailed game. Warfare in the colonies might have been similar to warfare in Europe, but it wasn't entirely the same.

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I hope so.

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Feels like a small scale version of the same thing to me.
/Capa

As this thread is still going, going, going, see my post, number 80, for my take on it here=> http://aoe3.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=st&fn=1&tn=21014&f=1,,0,30&st=70