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Topic Subject: TEAM civ bonuses
posted 08-14-07 02:01 PM EDT (US)   
I noteced, in all the civ's cathedral, there is a TEAM improvement that makes things cheaper or improved, ie. TEAM Cheap Docks. Since I rarely see anyone use these cards, dont you think it would be better to have them as bonuses for the player's team, like in AoK?

Here they are, by civ-

Aztec- TEAM Cheap Fishing Boats: TEAM Fishing Boats cost less Wood
British- TEAM Cheap Docks: TEAM The Wood cost for Docks and Dock improvements is lower
Dutch- TEAM Cheap Market Improvements- TEAM Discovery Age Market improvements are much cheaper
French- TEAM Cheap Church: TEAM Churches, Mosques, and Field Hospitals are much cheaper and their non-advanced techs are also cheaper. Native Firepits become free
German- TEAM Cheap Stables: TEAM Stables and Corrals are much cheaper. Nobles' Huts are somewhat cheaper
Iroquois- TEAM Cheap Outposts: TEAM Outposts, Blockhouses, and War Huts are cheaper
Ottos- TEAM Cheap Trading Posts: TEAM Trading Posts are cheaper
Ports- TEAM Improved Walls- TEAM Wall hitpoints greatly increased ,OR TEAM Cheap Outposts- (See Iros)
Russians- TEAM Barracks Hitpoints: TEAM Barracks, Blockhouses, Nobles' Hut, and War Hut hitpoints increased
Sioux- TEAM Cheap Docks: (See Brits, this would need to be changed)
Spanish- TEAM Inquisition: TEAM Unit line of sight greatly increased

Note that the Sioux will need a new bonus, as they have the same one as brits. Suggestions for one are welcomed.


Obviously, this will change the game a LOT. Some of these seem OP, so any changes and suggestions with this are welcomed. I think some will have to be toned down a little, like maybe just a reduced wood dock for TEAM cheap docks instead of reducing all techs.

What do you think?

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[This message has been edited by SupremeOverlord (edited 08-14-2007 @ 02:13 PM).]

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posted 08-14-07 02:06 PM EDT (US)     1 / 10  
aztecs do have one - team cheaper fishing boats

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posted 08-14-07 02:10 PM EDT (US)     2 / 10  
Ooops, i missed it since it wasn't in the Cathedral like the rest.

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posted 08-14-07 03:38 PM EDT (US)     3 / 10  
There are more team upgrade cards than this. EG silkroad. Also Russians: TEAM cheaper priests.

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[This message has been edited by George_uk (edited 08-14-2007 @ 03:40 PM).]

posted 08-14-07 04:25 PM EDT (US)     4 / 10  
You miss at least half of the team cards, and those are used really often.

Team inf hp, teamp gunpowder inf attack, team cav attack, team cav hp iirc, etc. And also team zoo from the natives, team settler wagon, 3 villager, dog soldier, spahi, etc.

They are used as often

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posted 08-14-07 04:32 PM EDT (US)     5 / 10  
Add these: team congesta wagons ( the team covered wagon ) and team teutonic tc

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posted 08-14-07 06:06 PM EDT (US)     6 / 10  
team surgeons??? team cheap barracks??? yeah you missed 75% of the team cards

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posted 08-14-07 07:07 PM EDT (US)     7 / 10  
I think you missed the point: all the cards he's suggesting be turned into bonuses are worthless. If cards like silk road were made into bonuses, Ottos would be instantly OP. I'd like to see these as team bonuses, since the cards are currently getting zero play.

Or just boost the cards.

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posted 08-14-07 07:34 PM EDT (US)     8 / 10  
aztecs do have one - team cheaper fishing boats
posted 08-14-07 09:31 PM EDT (US)     9 / 10  
Umm supreme, you might wanna check the only thread in the treaty discussions. Twinkee took credit for your post.

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posted 08-14-07 09:46 PM EDT (US)     10 / 10  
Im not saying add all the TEAM bonuses, because they are military improvements or unit shipments. What im saying is these cards arent used, and they would add a new level to Team games, when you find a good combo of bonuses. Im NOT saying i want ALL team cards, because youd end up with all sorts of bonuses. The way im thinking of, is like in Age of Empires 2, each civ has a team bonus. For example, Playing with vikings made docks 25% cheaper. I think having these bonuses could balance civs by giving "weaker" civs, like ports or brits a good bonus that balanced them. IMHO, those bonuses made AoE2 so balanced, so why wont that apply to AoE3?

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