Hello!!

Come on I don't think nobody guess that adding this resource could be a great idea or maybe an unnessesary complication as Nabrim said. Please write your thoughts, your opinions, your vote.

Come on!!

Hehe good idea. Difficult to understand how can it will be applied to the game.

However the idea you suggest is quite interesting. All the other ideas about using water for farming and irrigation sound cool.

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How can we do in order to share the resource? Can you or someone explain this?

Warturtle:

Maybe it sounds too complicated but it isn't.

Let suppose we are allies in a game and you had to rebuilt because of a flush. But the place in which you need to rebuild is out of water. In this case I will need to build an aqueduct directly to your new town. At the end of the aqueduct I will build a reservoir. This reservoir will be used by you like a pond or as same as a small lake. You will need to build the water-mill near it and that's all you have water now!!

Maybe my idea is not so good, if someone could think a little bit more about it please don't hesitate to post your thoughts here.

whoa, indentation.. you don't see that everyday.. usually it's

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I like these water ideas.

Possibly we could have a sort of wall that is a ditch filled with water. But you can't destroy it, so you have to go around or acroos. (see below)

Perhaps a small, mobile bridge, that can't attack but has hgh armour, and it can be carried to a water ditch, then set up so that units can cross it. You'd have to set it so that you can't have 2 or 3 ditches one behind the other, then the bridges woyld be too short.

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Thank you.

I guess it could always bring up the question, can the water supply be poisoned?. Not that i think it should be included in the game but its still a talking point I guess.

About Chris JBA's reply:

Quote: Possibly we could have a sort of wall that is a ditch filled with water. But you can't destroy it, so you have to go around or acroos. (see below)

Yes these would be moats, and you can't go across but instead have to fill them up.

This is very simple if you want a simple usage of water. Make a new naval building that will gather water and purify it. It will slowly add to your resource and water will be used to "boost" the building rate for one building, or the farming rate for a farm.

How about you could also lift land from underwater (like they did in Holland) but very slowly and it should be very expensive. But it should be that if you don't gather water reguralry the farms lose food.

GOOD!! WATER!!! JUST WHAT I NEED!!!
Aqueducts seem nice idea.
Maybe resource caravans could be added.

Like the trade ships in AOE.

2 columns, sell and buy.

Choose the resources and move to either a standard market or make a new building like a resource depot.

Hmm how does that sound?

Anyways, the aqueducts would seem a bit too... Roman.
Maybe a roman or rome like civ could have it as a unique unit/technology/building while all the others have ditches until sewers are researched in ageIII.

A good idea with water as a resource!

Thread updated with new suggestions.

Anyone else?

I think it is unnessecary. There are already quite a few resourses.

A news item might help your cause.

Water pollution!

How about having the water become polluted as time goes on and people create more waste (hey, it's a fact of life! )?

Use water as a waste dump would improve work rate for villagers and strengthen the army, otherwise, it would slow down the work rate. But, since water would also be a resource, you would have to decide whether water is wholly expendible or a turning point in the game.

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Well I dont think it is a complication.

There are two options:

Units consume water
Farms requiere water to build and/or need water for growing.

It is not a complication, furthermore, I think this resource could renew the interest on the game because of that new resource. Which strategies would be applied?, how to have a monopoly of water?, how this new resource will affect the game balance?, would it be possible to trade it or sell and/or buy? What will happen when gold is out?

There are a lot of questions that could be of mayor interest. Think about it. ES will not do an AOE III if they don't find something really new.

Thank you Luke

All units could cost 10 water as well as food.

If aqueducts are included, enemies could target them, to help cut off unit production. Defence of reservoir in later ages would also come into play. In the earlier ages, you'd have to build wells, especially on maps with scarce water. The wells would slowly build up water or something like that. Or maybe each water can give a certain amount of water before it must be relocated. You'd just destroy them to take the extra space.

What about shore fishing traps? Only villages could gather fish from them.

With maps thin on water, you could try and dominate all the water. Build towers to stop aqueduct construction. Perhaps the wells are less desirable than reservoirs, and are less clean (though I don't know what that would do) and don't last as long.

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I believe water would be a great addition to the available resources; however, it is a very broad topic. It could use more explanation. Some of the statements i have read sound like a very great idea. A player could do some much with water being a resource. Also, i have learned many different tactics playing AoK:TC; some of which are cutting off trade surplus, or hurting their stone so they are unable to advance to Imperial for the reason of not building a castle (This works 1v1 quite well if exectuted correctly). Which brings me to my point of taking out a water mill to damper the other players spirits. Another possibility is another unit. Create a spy of some sort and have them pollute their water supply. That would throw a wrench in their plans. I did, also, like what someone had to say about having farms cost water instead of wood. I believe in this to the fullest. Sure, some wood is used when a farm is built, but the main resourse used is Water. A person could talk a great deal about this and i could go on...but i want to keep this as short as possible. Keep it real Frosty -XN-

Realy god Resources. I think...I will use them, yes!

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i really doubt water was even a minor strategic resource to get in the middle ages.

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back then there just werent enough people to exhast underground water reservours.

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LOL your gonna buy AOE3 for a few new features and water??

Water... hmm...

What about this:

It all depend on how close you are towards water. For example, if your village is on the bank of a river, then you would just simply build a ditch (same building process as walls, animations would be digging instead of hammering), that lead to your town centers, and then you would need villagers garrisoned inside your town center to produce water as a resource, just like how relics are garrisoned inside monestaries to produce gold.

If your village are far from water, then you would need to dig a well in green terrain (any terrain that has the color of green in minimap), and then gather water from there the same way a villager gathers gold from a gold mine, they deposite it into a town center or a reservoir.

A reservoir can be built for the use of "water camp" similar to the use of "mining camp" and "lumber camp". A reservoir acts just like a town center except it doesn't have any other abilities, it only concerns water. build a ditch and have it connect to the reservoir, then have villagers garrison inside to produce water, or gather water from already built wells.

In yellow-brown terrain, there is no wells available, and there is no water available, therefore you must look for grass terrain or water terrain, this would encourage players to search for "oasis" inside deserts.

A resource gathering point for water will never run out of water.

To cut your enemy off from water supply, simply select your villager and right click on your enemy's ditch and your villager will throw rocks into it, and when the ditch is filled, it is destroyed. A ditch is very easy to destroy, it is also very easy to build. Only villagers can destroy ditches, and that would give villagers more importance in war.

As for destroying a well, just attack it as if it's a building. A well would have 100HP with building armor.

Every unit you build would cost an amount of water, riders cost more water, etc...

Nay!
I don't think water would be too popular

Water was/is an important resource, especially in the Middle East.

There have been many battles won because of poisoning the water supply of a city.