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pospher
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(id: demon_revival)

posted 08-22-04 04:01 PM CT (US) 1 / 457

Hmmm. aren't sheeps for food?

Tonto_Creon
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posted 08-22-04 04:03 PM CT (US) 2 / 457

You don't kill all 8 sheep at one time...

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Okorim
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posted 08-22-04 04:08 PM CT (US) 3 / 457

A supreme piece of work, Stevay. Simply astounding.

Garak
Squire

posted 08-22-04 05:59 PM CT (US) 4 / 457

Cool, it's finished.

And it's even more interesting than the old one. This has made my day, thank you Stevay.

Quoted from demon_revival:

Hmmm. aren't sheeps for food?

Nope, they're giving wool for clothes so that your vils don't catch cold on Scandinavia.

Steve
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(id: swp)

posted 08-22-04 06:51 PM CT (US) 5 / 457

I will add some recorded games in the future.

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Tony Sillars
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posted 08-22-04 09:15 PM CT (US) 6 / 457

Very nice job. BTY, Mayan farms also produce +20% more food before they need to be reseeded.

zak
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posted 08-22-04 09:18 PM CT (US) 7 / 457

Oh right, and killing sheep all at once or else there will loss of food due to decay.

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TOAO_Hairic
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posted 08-22-04 09:49 PM CT (US) 8 / 457

Where is Tooters and Persia?

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(id: Lord_Fadawah)

posted 08-22-04 09:53 PM CT (US) 9 / 457

A good read. I always go for Turks and Koreans when flushing. Hun mongers are my mortal enemies.

Gordon: I know you're a smart enough player to know those are the 2 worst Arabia civs. In that case, this is obvious spam. Sticky threads are no place for spam. That goes for everyone.

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Steve
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(id: swp)

posted 08-22-04 10:06 PM CT (US) 10 / 457

Quote:

Very nice job. BTY, Mayan farms also produce +20% more food before they need to be reseeded.

I'll add that tomorrow if CC wants to put it in. Right, CC?

Quote:

Where is Tooters and Persia?

Good point.

STEVE
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extrafattyliver
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posted 08-23-04 01:55 AM CT (US) 11 / 457

i have been waiting a while for this update and it didn't disappoint.
BTW, melody won 3:1 in the end and game 3 was one of the best. his walling in feudal is quite an art. that won the final for him. there is some luck with the map...

Wartz
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(id: josephschlimmer)

posted 08-23-04 03:58 AM CT (US) 12 / 457

Quote:

A good read. I always go for Turks and Koreans when flushing. Hun mongers are my mortal enemies.

Gordon: I know you're a smart enough player to know those are the 2 worst Arabia civs. In that case, this is obvious spam. Sticky threads are no place for spam. That goes for everyone.

I thought you were an oldie and didnt spam anymore?

on topic: Very nice job stevay, I'm impressed. Now all you gotta do is make a picture book version for the noobs who cant read

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ax_man1
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posted 08-23-04 12:57 PM CT (US) 13 / 457

Very nice. Now I really want to find another TC CD.

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WH_VeCToR
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posted 08-24-04 01:16 AM CT (US) 14 / 457

Great article , thx

dermike
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posted 08-24-04 11:45 AM CT (US) 15 / 457

Very well done, nice job. It has some things i have never even thought of to do after a year of playing.

Red Lord
Squire

posted 08-27-04 05:57 PM CT (US) 16 / 457

Hey Stevay! This is awesome work! Now I realy learnd what flush is and how can I defend against it. I hope that you will realy add some records too.
Realy good work!

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Cyrus Z
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posted 09-06-04 09:42 PM CT (US) 17 / 457

Awesome article! Stevay, is there any chance you will be making articles on other strategies?

Steve
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(id: swp)

posted 09-07-04 06:26 PM CT (US) 18 / 457

I doubt I would finish a comprehensive guide at any rate, so let's put it at "no" right now.

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River_Styx
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posted 09-07-04 08:17 PM CT (US) 19 / 457

Its a great guide, but IMO you should have put "build house" in the build orders, for the non-hunnic civs. 17 out of the 18 civs have to build houses, majority rules.

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In the game shown above, the player managed to find all eight Sheep early on, and sent four (yes, count them, four) Sheep scouting. The red circles in the screenshot indicate Sheep, while the green circle designates the player's Scout. There is a huge difference in Sheep scouting and not Sheep scouting. Just look at the amount of map you could have explored. Even with two Sheep, there is still quite often a major difference.

Whenever I try sheep scouting, it always seems that my 2 sheep at the TC are done before I get any scouting done with my sheep. And if I do get some done, it is very insignificant. I dont have any more then 6 vils to a sheep, and that's what you recommend...why does it seem to go so fast?

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Steve
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(id: swp)

posted 09-07-04 09:06 PM CT (US) 20 / 457

Quote:

Its a great guide, but IMO you should have put "build house" in the build orders, for the non-hunnic civs. 17 out of the 18 civs have to build houses, majority rules.

That would just get repetitive and really is not needed. I did mention Houses in the guide (and various civs that could potentially have different times for building HOuses), but I'm not going to put it in the build order.

There are people who build their Houses 3 pop ahead of the current limit. There are people who don't build a House with their first lurer, but instead, with another Vil.

"Majority" may rule in terms of Houses, but 1 out of the 18 civs is the best Flusher.

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Whenever I try sheep scouting, it always seems that my 2 sheep at the TC are done before I get any scouting done with my sheep. And if I do get some done, it is very insignificant. I dont have any more then 6 vils to a sheep, and that's what you recommend...why does it seem to go so fast?

That hardly seems likely. Would you care to post a record of yourself playing?

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ff8demon
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posted 09-07-04 11:37 PM CT (US) 21 / 457

A good point to include on walling military buildings is that the buildings themselves can destroy the walls. If a military building "flags" any adjacent structure, the military building will proceed to "attack" that structure. try it for yourself if u don't believe it.

it takes a while to destroy the wall, and the person may see their palisade flashing on the minimap and burning on the screen (a lot of people accuse cheating at that point, though it is just a clever trick). But it is still something to be aware of from either the offensive or defensive perspective.

Note: I'm not sure if a unit needs to be garrisoned inside the military building for this to work. i think the building can do it while empty, but not sure.

Steve
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(id: swp)

posted 09-07-04 11:41 PM CT (US) 22 / 457

Quote:

A good point to include on walling military buildings is that the buildings themselves can destroy the walls. If a military building "flags" any adjacent structure, the military building will proceed to "attack" that structure. try it for yourself if u don't believe it.

I was debating with a bunch of people on the issue of whether or not I would add that into the article. I refrained, thinking that if a newbie Flusher ever had his buildings walled in, he would rather use the building-attacks-wall trick to get it out, instead of making better use of that time.

STEVE
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River_Styx
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posted 09-08-04 10:19 PM CT (US) 23 / 457

Quote:

That hardly seems likely. Would you care to post a record of yourself playing?

You mean like a recorded game? sure...if I could figure out how...

NOTE: I don't play as the Britons.

I will try sometime soon.

Quote:

That would just get repetitive and really is not needed. I did mention Houses in the guide (and various civs that could potentially have different times for building HOuses), but I'm not going to put it in the build order.

There are people who build their Houses 3 pop ahead of the current limit. There are people who don't build a House with their first lurer, but instead, with another Vil.

"Majority" may rule in terms of Houses, but 1 out of the 18 civs is the best Flusher.

I do suppose you have a point on it being repetitive, and the variations of when to build houses...

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Kevin II
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posted 09-20-04 08:58 PM CT (US) 24 / 457

WTF???!!! I followed the flush guide, and all of my sheep were either stolen or killed!!!

TOAO_Imperial_5
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(id: DDRMAX2)

posted 09-22-04 05:27 PM CT (US) 25 / 457

lol u probably went too deep into "the unknown"

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