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Topic Subject: Mongolian 13 Minute Castle Guide
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posted 02-25-01 04:38 PM CT (US)   
Mongolian Fast 13 Minute Castle
by Stephen Xu (alias swp)

Introduction

This is the Mongolian Fast 13 Minute Castle, which will help you achieve a 13:00 to 13:59 minute Castle time on Yucatan. There is a separate guide to this coming out soon, which focuses on the military side of this as well as the economy, as this 13 minute Castle guide is very fragile, and your economy could fall through the hole very, very easily.

Build Order

Vils 1&2: Build a House on the outskirts of your LOS. When the House is around 50% complete, get Vil 2 to build another one on the outskirts.
Vil 3: Build another House on the outskirts of your LOS. When Vil 3 is done, get it to build a Lumber Camp by your closest Forest.
TC: Queue up 4 Vils (H-C-C-C-C, or H-Shift-C).
Scout: Assign it number 1 (Ctrl-1), and scout for Turkeys.
Turkeys: Bring them back to TC, micromanage them (you should know how). Vils 1&2 should start on them.
TC: Set gather point to Turkeys.
Vils 4,5,6,7: Turkeys
TC: After Vil 7, Loom, do not queue another villager even if you have enough Food for one.
Vil 8: Lure first Boar.
Vil 9&10: Chop wood at your Lumber Camp.
Vils 11: Lure second Boar.
TC: Set gather point to dead Boar.
Vils 12&13: Boar.
Vils 14,15,16: Build Mill near Deer (preferably 8 Deer).
Vil 17: Wood
Vils 18&19: Turkeys.

Once Boar is done, get those Boar guys to hunt Deer (in groups of Four).

Feudal.

Now, you should have: 4 on Wood, 12 Hunters hunting Deer, 3 on Turkeys. Scout still scouting.

Once Feudal, make sure you have 325 Wood. Get 3 Lumberjacks to build a Market close to them. Get the other Lumberjack to build a Blacksmith. Once the Market is done, sell 100 Stone, and 100 Wood (or Food, if you have a surplus).

Castle.

There you go.

Here's the recorded game to go along with it: http://members.home.net/sxu/13MinCastle.zip


STEVE
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[This message has been edited by swp (edited 02-25-2001).]

Replies:
posted 02-25-01 04:39 PM CT (US)     1 / 46  
Sorry, guys, but my FTP isn't working... Stupid Shaw@Home, so the recorded game isn't working. But try the Build Order, okay?

STEVE
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posted 02-25-01 04:40 PM CT (US)     2 / 46  
Email it to me Steve: Chooch709@yahoo.com

I can upload it for you. I'd love to see the rec game.


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posted 02-25-01 04:41 PM CT (US)     3 / 46  
I love you, Chooch...*pukes*

STEVE
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posted 02-25-01 04:49 PM CT (US)     4 / 46  
posted 02-25-01 05:38 PM CT (US)     5 / 46  
i would like to offer you my appreciation for contributing to the age community swp!! i look forward to attempting your 13 minute castle time! (eh, 15 will be enough to please me!!)

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posted 02-25-01 06:00 PM CT (US)     6 / 46  
Good one, swp. I ended up doing this in 14:10 on my first try, which is quite good for me. I am needing a fast castle for a 1 on 1 game, so this is very timely indeed.

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posted 02-26-01 06:11 PM CT (US)     7 / 46  
Hyar, keep trying, you'll get better and better at it. Sometimes the map isn't in your favor, but you'll have to do.

STEVE
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posted 02-28-01 08:26 PM CT (US)     8 / 46  
Top.

STEVE
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posted 02-28-01 08:43 PM CT (US)     9 / 46  
13:00 castle is so eeeasy on yucatan. And not just for mongols. Try doing it on arabia. Or with a different civ.
posted 02-28-01 08:44 PM CT (US)     10 / 46  
Why don't you try it, Mr. Hotshot?! I'd like to see you try to get 13:30 or faster. Let's see, c'mon, Mr. Super-Duper-Expert-Bigshot.

STEVE
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posted 02-28-01 08:48 PM CT (US)     11 / 46  
Where do I post the recording and how realistic do you want the settings to be?

I don't have much time to spare nowadays, can have it done in a couple of days, okely?

posted 02-28-01 08:51 PM CT (US)     12 / 46  
Another sucker tempted to try this...he is so gonna get 14 minutes, not 13.

STEVE
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posted 02-28-01 08:54 PM CT (US)     13 / 46  
If it is possible, which it most certainly is, I'll get 13. I'm too lazy to do that in a *real game*, though.
posted 02-28-01 10:02 PM CT (US)     14 / 46  
Sweet, I got 14:08 on Arabia with only one boar.
posted 03-01-01 01:31 AM CT (US)     15 / 46  
Steve U might wanna build vill 8 first and put the gathering poin with one of the boars and then reseach loom asap after the vill is finish. Would save U from some walking time, just attack the boar, when the reseach is 80% done.

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posted 03-01-01 01:43 AM CT (US)     16 / 46  
Luring without loom works dandy as long as there is little or no lag.

En nordmann? ^^

[This message has been edited by Mark_Aurel (edited 03-01-2001).]

posted 03-01-01 05:16 AM CT (US)     17 / 46  
13 minute castle is not that hard! I did this on an island map and i didn't use boars but i did fish. 13:06 was pretty good on my first try

everyone will probably out a didn't have much food but practice makes perfect. Sir Steve is my brother BTW, i forgot to change names.

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posted 03-01-01 06:57 AM CT (US)     18 / 46  
A thirteen minute Byzantine castle with fishing and still you have an amazing 700 stone in the bank and a rax and at least 3 militia already built! You were obviously highly resourceful.

[This message has been edited by Rolling_Papyrus (edited 03-01-2001).]

posted 03-01-01 10:49 AM CT (US)     19 / 46  
Mark_Aurel, yup. ^^
posted 03-01-01 11:06 AM CT (US)     20 / 46  
how fast can this be done in AOKII without conquerors? eom.
posted 03-01-01 06:42 PM CT (US)     21 / 46  
You can try Arabia in regular AOK if you want.

STEVE
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posted 03-01-01 10:12 PM CT (US)     22 / 46  
What suggestions do you soi-disant "experts" have on managing scouting? When I use waypoints, there's always big areas of black that I missed somehow, and of course that's where the boars are. Do you always use waypoints to get these castle times? I don't get how you write this build order just assuming that people will find both their boars and their deer herd like it's nothin'. When I castle faster than usual, I get all discombobulated because I have NO military at all. If the great benefit of multi-TC's is to pump out more villies, then you must be using all your food for villies and not for military, so then where are you?
posted 03-01-01 10:28 PM CT (US)     23 / 46  
This strategy sucks. I hate it. No one should use it under any circumstances, ever. Period. Final.

Nerd.

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posted 03-01-01 11:19 PM CT (US)     24 / 46  
lol
posted 03-01-01 11:33 PM CT (US)     25 / 46  
Yep. It's definitely Pieman alright.

STEVE
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