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posted 11-02-01 03:30 PM CT (US)   
Greetings! Welcome to the Age of Kings Heaven Scenario Design Forum.

Allow me to welcome you on behalf of the entire HeavenGames staff. My name is Rasher. You will likely see a few people with colored names in your journeys around the forums: these are staff members, and any one of them will be glad to assist you in whatever manner possible.

The purpose of this thread is to give you a general overview of this forum, Age of Kings Heaven, and scenario designing in general: hopefully it will provide you with a good starting point in your quest of scenario designing.

Why Design Scenarios?
First of all, I would like to say a couple words about scenario designing itself:
For me, there is no greater part of AoK then the editor. Long after the fun of playing the game starts to fade away, the editor continues to pull me to it. Indeed, the thrill of releasing a scenario and receiving comments or emails from people who enjoyed it never wears off. For me, there is almost no greater feeling. There has been many times that I have neglected food, sleep, partying, schoolwork, whatever, just to work on a scenario that I felt I *had* to get done… and I hope that you will feel as passionately about designing as well.
Let it be said, though, that it is not easy. It can be frustrating, and it will take a huge amount of effort, sweat, and perspiration to produce a top-quality work. However, the end result is certainly worth it…

What is the point of this forum?
As the title implies, this is the place to go to ask questions regarding scenario editing, to discuss certain areas of the field, to search for playtesters for a scenario you may have, or just talk about anything related to scenarios in general. This is *not* a place to talk to your buddies about school tomorrow, to talk about a great strategy using the Teutons, or anything else that is not related to scenario designing. For that sort of discussion, please use one of the other AoKH forums if it relates to AoK, and the Town's Crier for anything that does not fit in any category.
Above all, this forum is here for you. It is here to help you out in your quest to design scenarios, to give you a place to discuss your hobby, and to enhance the community in general.

How do I use this forum?
Well, you have already made the first step: You are reading this thread, which means that you have successfully found the forum. If you have not already registered, the first step is to do so now. In the upper right-hand corner of your screen, you will see an option that says “Register”. Click on that, and you will be taken to a screen that will allow you to fill out your information and choose a user name – don’t worry, the only info we need is an email address to send you your password, and all info you choose to give will remain confidential.
After you have registered, check your email, for your password will be sent to you. Once you have your password, simply press the “login” option (which is directly to the left of the “register” option). Enter your username and password, and viola! You are able to post on any HG forum.
These forums have been designed to be as user-friendly as possible. Simply click on the New Topic button to create a thread, or the Reply to Topic button to reply to a specific thread.
UBB code allows you to enhance your post with a variety of formatting options. For an overview on using UBB, please go here.

Make sure that you read the Forum FAQ before you begin posting on any HG forum. If you have any problems at all with the forums, please do not hesitate to contact one of the current moderators: CrystalCrown, Angel Anastasia, and Cherub DaVe. Alternatively, you could send an e-mail to forums@heavengames.com.

Where can I download other people’s scenarios or post my own so people can download them?
Age of Kings Heaven has the largest database of files for AoK in the world, and posting yours there is as easy as 1-2-3. The Blacksmith is where all the files are stored. To download a scenario or campaign, simply go to the address, and use the easy menus to navigate your way to the files you wish to download.
You can also upload your own creations as well. Simply go to The Blacksmith and click on “Submit File”. Fill out the necessary info, press submit, and voila! Your file will be authorized into the Blacksmith as soon as a staff member looks it over, and it will be available for download shortly.
One common error that many people get when attempting to download from the Blacksmith is a box prompting them for a username and password. The answer is simple: disable download acclerator and any other "Download Acceleration" programs. You will not be able to download anything if you are using any of these programs.
If you have any problems or questions arising from the use of the Blacksmith, please e-mail one of the current blacksmith administrators, Angel Aro, Tanneur99, and Berserker Jerker.

What do I do if I have a question?
Well, if you have a question regarding scenario designing, the best way to start would be to look at tutorials or articles that other people have made. Probably the best places for such articles would be:
Dragon Gaming Design Network
The Tsuniversity

If you cannot find an answer to your question at these sites, it would probably be a good idea to search the forum to see if your question has been asked previously. Your first action should be to check the threads at the top of the main Scen. Editing Forum page - the threads with "Sticky:" behind them. These threads will remain at the top forever, and have been put there because they are deemed to be of great value to the designers.
If that fails, you could try searching. At the bottom main Scen. Editing Forum page you will see where it says “Search”. In the “Subject” field, simply type any keywords having to do with your question, and see what comes up. If you don’t find anything, feel free post a new thread about it! There are a lot of people here that will be willing to help you out and assist you, so don’t be afraid to ask questions!
Which leads me to my next point…

What do I do if someone is giving me trouble?
Although you will find that most people that post at this forum are all-too-happy to help you out with whatever questions you might have, there will always be those who do not feel the same way. These people, many of whom consider themselves “oldies” simply because they have been here for a few months, fail to remember that they were once new as well. Everyone needs to start somewhere, and if you do not ask questions and participate there is no way for you to improve. These people feel the need to appear “superior” to others, and may be rude, insulting, or unfriendly. My advice: Ignore them. If you are having a problem with any forummer, please inform one of the current moderators (CrystalCrown, Angel Anastasia, and Cherub DaVe) and they will deal with it right away. Fortunately, most people are not like this, and are more then happy to make you feel welcome. However, there will always be those who are committed to causing trouble, though they are usually a small minority.

What are the rules?
Here like all Heaven Games forums, members must follow the Forum Code of Conduct or CoC. The Forum Support and CoC Document is found in the link marked 'rules' near the top of the forum. Also, the CoC prohibits profanity in the forums, but here in Scenario Design Forum we do not allow cursing as our special policy. This includes abbreviations that substitute for curses, and cursing in any context. We prefer to just edit curses when and where we see them, however repeated and flagrant cursing will be considered in violation of the Code of Conduct.

Conclusion:
Enjoy your stay at the Age of Kings Heaven Scenario Editing Forum! Above all else, make sure to have fun… for what else is the point of designing scenarios if one does not enjoy it? Remember, if you have any questions/comments/problems, please contact one of the current moderators, CrystalCrown, Angel Anastasia, and Cherub DaVe)… They would be very happy to hear from you.

Happy Forumming!

[This message has been edited by Angel Anastasia (edited 05-28-2006 @ 12:18 PM).]

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posted 11-02-01 07:42 PM CT (US)     1 / 196  
What prompted you to post this info, Rasher?

-Generalchang
Creator of: The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter I 3.8 The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter II Demo & Base Wars 2!
Current Projects: The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter II !
My Homepage
posted 11-02-01 09:06 PM CT (US)     2 / 196  
It's a good strategy, and such a post would help a lot in every forum. It's very user-friendly Perhaps you Angels should change its icon so it stands out more, or add to the title a "start here" in bold.

For people who haven't bought newer computers yet, AoK will still be the best RTS around.


Programmer on 0 A.D., author of Norse Wars, co-author of Fort Wars.
posted 11-02-01 11:27 PM CT (US)     3 / 196  
Well, I am one of those people who are willing to try to help newbies. GoD (Guild of Designers http://us.geocities.com/godcraft/) helps newbies. Though some claimed I was rude to them in the past, but I am understanding of them now. Just to you let you know, I am one of those people who can help you. I am not an oldie, but I sure know some information about AoK. E-mail your questions to outlaw_bg16@hotmail.com.

And, not to take advantage of this topic, GoD is recruiting people. Newbies, rookies, what ever. If you have good map making skills, go ahead and apply today by asking my by email. Just try. Thanks again Rasher for standing out and helping these guys out!


Scenario Designer/Web Master

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Alias: Mr_Runabout2
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posted 11-03-01 02:26 AM CT (US)     4 / 196  
Rasher, that Tsuniversity link is wrong....I'm not sure what the correct link is, because the site is being worked on....I'll let you know.

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posted 11-03-01 04:54 AM CT (US)     5 / 196  
Gr8...!!

Can you do the Double Yoda?
A sexual move, where you do a double backflip, insert your penis into the orifice of choice, and scream, "Afraid are you?"
posted 11-03-01 08:01 AM CT (US)     6 / 196  
Quote:
What prompted you to post this info, Rasher?

You people

j/k


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posted 11-03-01 11:53 AM CT (US)     7 / 196  
Quote:
What prompted you to post this info, Rasher?

I just thought it was time that this forum had something to make it easier for new people to find their way around... and I was also a little concerned with the welcome that some of them were being given by certain people.

Plus, I had about 2 hours to hang around school before my midterm, so I just thought I'd write it up.


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posted 11-03-01 01:06 PM CT (US)     8 / 196  
nice post

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posted 11-03-01 08:07 PM CT (US)     9 / 196  
*claps*

Great thread Rasher!

It should help the newbies get a good start in the SD forum.


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posted 11-03-01 10:47 PM CT (US)     10 / 196  

*...still there are new people who are not looking up this post...*

*...sigh...*


Can you do the Double Yoda?
A sexual move, where you do a double backflip, insert your penis into the orifice of choice, and scream, "Afraid are you?"
posted 11-04-01 06:34 AM CT (US)     11 / 196  
Good idea to post this, will help new visitors if they take time to look at it.

One minor complaint...you should include that this is the forum for those wishing to discuss or ask about random map scripts also.


Random Map Scripting...the unwanted stepchild of the Scenario Design Forum

posted 11-04-01 07:18 AM CT (US)     12 / 196  
great post.

I've been here for bout 2 years now and newbies never bothered me. Anyway you gotta give em applause for comin to the best forum outta em all

posted 11-04-01 07:33 AM CT (US)     13 / 196  
Hey Rasher, add this:

If you need a program that extracts scenarios from campaigns, download it HERE.

"New forumers" ask this question in a 9/10 rate, so now they can find it here

Oh, and make the topic text(NOTICE: To all those who are new to this forum)big, something like 16 or 18 fontsize.

[This message has been edited by antpocas (edited 11-04-2001 @ 07:35 AM).]

posted 11-08-01 12:57 PM CT (US)     14 / 196  
The Tsuniversity link is ok, now.
Thanks
posted 11-09-01 10:23 AM CT (US)     15 / 196  
*Petitions to make signature area longer*

now I have to push ctrl-v all the time!

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IN FLANDERS FIELDS

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Lest We Forget



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posted 11-09-01 02:59 PM CT (US)     16 / 196  
*petitions to make sig area only 2 or 3 lines longer (contacts, blah blah's and project space)
posted 11-11-01 01:02 PM CT (US)     17 / 196  
I'm looking for some answers to my problems.I Build pretty good maps people say,but the darn AI allways messes it up.I give them a city(not a small one)and all the buildings they would need.So when i play it i have it on hardest,and they build millions of towers.I dont know if that happens to anybody else but I like realistic maps,even if the story if fictional.The towers all over the map ruins everything.Somebody help me.
posted 11-12-01 11:52 AM CT (US)     18 / 196  
You should probably start a new topic and be more clear in your post for someone to help you, EmperorGreg.

-Generalchang
Creator of: The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter I 3.8 The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter II Demo & Base Wars 2!
Current Projects: The Invasion of the Saracens Chapter II !
My Homepage
posted 11-17-01 07:47 AM CT (US)     19 / 196  
Great post, Rasher! It'll really help newbies work their way round the forums!

Oh, and EmperorGreg. Try downloading Immobile Units or Immobile Units AI GOLD from the blacksmith, I never create a scenario without Immobile Units in!


"Remember when American moms used to tell their kids to finish dinner because children were starving in Africa? Well, thanks a lot, mom; Africans are still starving and American kids are obese." - (unknown)
posted 11-23-01 04:15 PM CT (US)     20 / 196  
I have to agree. Great initiative, Rasher!
Now we have to contribute and help what Rasher started. So whenever a n3w|3 posts a question, all we have to do is to corner and flame him so he just recurres to this post.
posted 11-23-01 05:16 PM CT (US)     21 / 196  
Err... This post isn't made for noobs to ask question, but it is for noobs to LEARN the bases of the SDforum:

Quote:
If you don’t find anything, feel free post a new thread about it!

Not to make him recurre to this post.

Quote:
Although you will find that most people that post at this forum are all-too-happy to help you out with whatever questions you might have, there will always be those who do not feel the same way.
These people, many of whom consider themselves “oldies” simply because they have been here for a few months, fail to remember that they were once new as well. Everyone needs to start somewhere, and if you do not ask questions and participate there is no way for you to improve. These people feel the need to appear “superior” to others, and may be rude, insulting, or unfriendly.

About flaming, NO to ANY kinds of flames is what this bit of text means.

I'm an oldie (if people with 8+ moths are oldies, I'm one), but I always try to help n00bs.

posted 11-23-01 10:36 PM CT (US)     22 / 196  
*Sigh*... Before you took textually everything I wrote in a negative way and started to type why I am the worst antisocial in the world, Antpocas, did you notice the smiley at the end of my post?
If a n00|3!3 has has a question, I am pretty darn sure that he will find his answers on the linked posts and pages Rasher posted, on the other side.
posted 11-23-01 11:56 PM CT (US)     23 / 196  
GoD Has a website here http://pub97.ezboard.com/fguildofdesignersfrm2 where you can post any questions, talk about your team or EE, AoK. It is my site.

Scenario Designer/Web Master

Email Address: mr_runabout2@yahoo.com
Alias: Mr_Runabout2
[ Scenario Designer of AoK/AoM ] [ Web Master of Entoxic City Website ] [ For Newbies Guide 1/2 ]

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posted 11-24-01 00:00 AM CT (US)     24 / 196  
Here is some more stuff you could add:

Section One: Links

What good guide would be without a links section? Here are some of the better-known editing sites.

Teams

Dedicated to keeping this list as short as possible.

(Inactive) means that the provided link does not work
(No Site Listed) means that I was unable to find a link for this team

AoK Punk

Wildfire Studios

Tsunami Studios

Lighthouse Creations

Creative Guys

Woad Creations

AoK Dragon

Burning Creations

Fusion Studios

Massacre Creations

AoKasino (Inactive)

Latin Design Team

Imperial Studios

GoD

Campaign Creations (Inactive)

Black Water Studios (Inactive)

Ace Design

Casadesino Design Team

Krazy-Monk studios

Laffingdoneky studios (Inactive)

The Australian Design Team (Inactive)

Sakura Studios (No Site Listed)

Ca_AoK’s Team (No Site Listed)

Bastards and Delinquents (No Site Listed)

Whoops!!! (No Site Listed)

Silver Star (No Site Listed)

AOKonquerors (No Site Listed)

Krystal Hex (No Site Listed)

TC_Masters (No Site Listed)

AOK Elementals (No Site Listed)

AOK Wizards (Inactive)

Magic Scn Team

AoKone (Inactive)

AOK Extreme (No Site Listed)

PAX (No Site Listed)

Falcon Campaign Creations (No Site Listed)

7Z (Inactive)

The Unlimited Era (No Site Listed)

Other Sites

www.ensemblestudios.com

http://cartographer.gameglow.com/

http://www.geocities.com/fissh_e/

http://homestead.juno.com/majm101/AoKStuff/

http://www.intrepid.freewebspace.com/

http://home.iprimus.com.au/ba2/articles.html

HG Posts & Threads

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,11023,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=st&fn=4&tn=10469&st=recent&f=4,10469,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&s=97nJbrtRIN3Uk&f=4,10873,1,10

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,8001,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,5137,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,5089,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,4889,1,0

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,1997,1,0

Section Two: Editing

Terminology

Not much of this in editing.

Scn – Scenario
ES – Ensemble Studios
AoK – Age of Kings
TC – The Conquerors
Trig – Trigger
Loop – Looping (Trigger Setting)
WFS – Wild Fire Studios
Eye Candy – Things to make your map look pretty
RMS – random map scripts
MPS – Mod Pack Studios

Exploring AoK

The different folders that came with your AoK CD

age2_x1: The base folder for the game

AI: The folder for .AI and .Per files. See the AI section.

Avi: The folder for the movies that you can play in certain circumstances before and after a scenario.

Campaign: This folder contains all of the campaigns that came with your CD. If you download a file from the blacksmith that is .CPX or .CPN you should store it here

Media: This folder is in the “Campaign” folder. It contains all of the beginning and ending stories for the campaigns

History: This folder has all of the Texts in the history section. Try editing them.

Learn: This folder has the documents with all of the Usernames that are on your CD

Random: This file will hold all of your random map scripts.

SaveGame: Obviously, this folder contains all of your saved games.

Scenario: This is the place where you should put any .SCN files you download. Your saved maps are also found here.

Screenshots: Should you take a screenshot with the “print screen” key, it will be saved here

Sound: This folder contains the four sound subfolders

Campaign: This folder holds all of the campaign sounds

Scenario: This folder holds all of the scenario sounds

Stream: This folder holds all of the pre game sounds as well as other miscellaneous sounds

Terrain: This folder holds several nature sounds that are very useful

Taunt: This folder holds all of the in-game taunts

Scenariobkg: This document is the background for the start of a campaign. Edit the picture.

Fool around with these files to improve your scenario.

I will try and find out if I missed any teams...


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[This message has been edited by spitfire_23 (edited 11-24-2001 @ 00:07 AM).]

posted 12-04-01 02:23 PM CT (US)     25 / 196  
Great job, Rasher

Raq miláh be'ivrít ħodéret el orqái, el nišmatí - Only a word in Hebrew penetrates into my veins, into my soul
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posted 12-07-01 05:59 PM CT (US)     26 / 196  
Spitfire-23 what about the AI tutorial file, where can I find that?(Newbie)

[This message has been edited by poontank (edited 12-07-2001 @ 06:01 PM).]

posted 12-09-01 08:26 AM CT (US)     27 / 196  
search the BS for that...

Can you do the Double Yoda?
A sexual move, where you do a double backflip, insert your penis into the orifice of choice, and scream, "Afraid are you?"
posted 12-16-01 03:46 AM CT (US)     28 / 196  
The Latin Design Team page has changed... http://latinaok.cjb.net
posted 12-16-01 11:37 AM CT (US)     29 / 196  
@spitfire_23

what Andres said!!!


BTW: next to the name, put: (Full Active)

[This message has been edited by Roman_Legionarie (edited 12-16-2001 @ 11:42 AM).]

posted 12-16-01 12:41 PM CT (US)     30 / 196  
BC is listed oke

Download the Trigger Trick guide v2.0 ID 344
Creator of the Return of the Mummy series id 715 :: Zelda sneak preview ::
Newest project: The World of Zelda
posted 12-26-01 09:49 PM CT (US)     31 / 196  
*Hates offical notices*

Whoops! Uh, yeah, the oldie part is important to know. I think i am rude sometimes when i am annoyed, pizzed off, or tired, but usually I keep my head. (on rare occasions, a flame my leak out).


You want fries with that?
posted 01-12-02 08:51 AM CT (US)     32 / 196  
Thats because it's too long

[This message has been edited by Im2 (edited 01-12-2002 @ 08:53 AM).]

posted 01-13-02 09:20 AM CT (US)     33 / 196  
ok, HI EVERYONE, I MEAN IT I AM A TOTAL NEWB TO MOD PACKS,could someone help me choose the right one, and not give me a link just tell me which one is good
posted 01-13-02 03:05 PM CT (US)     34 / 196  
I downloaded the final version of Rome at war and thought it was pretty cool
posted 01-27-02 05:08 PM CT (US)     35 / 196  
I'm sorry for everything I said. I apologize for being a big fat newbie.

Quoted from King_Biggles:

ok, HI EVERYONE, I MEAN IT I AM A TOTAL NEWB TO MOD PACKS,could someone help me choose the right one, and not give me a link just tell me which one is good


This is not the place to talk about mods. Post stuff about those evil things in Mod Pack Disscussion. Not Scenario design. Talk about a intellegence problem...

Pauken
Current projects: Mayan and Viking Battle for Saskatchewan!, The Battle of Dagorlad
ZN: SHXviking

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KIRBY ROCKS THE HOUSE!


Quoted from Star-J:

MEGA MAN RULES!


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