So that the rams will not move unless some folks start running? The Flintstone concept. Simple, but innovate. Surprise me with the triggers.

heres how it would look (i think)

Trigger 1 (freeze)
Condition- Units garrisoned 0
effect- freeze object (ram)

Trigger 2 (un-freeze)
Condition- Units Garrisoned 1
effect- deactive trigger (the one that freezes)

Hm. I think it's better to lock the rams in place by continuously ordering them to move to the spot they start out on. Naturally, all triggers must be looping.

Nope. I know how to do this.

Trigger 0 (Loop=on start=on)
COND. Timer=2
EFCT. Change ownership of battering ram to GAIA (so it will not move or be attacked, units changed to gaia will not revert to players)

Trigger 1 (loop=on start=on)
COND: Units Garrisoned on Ram=1
EFCT. Deativate trigger 0

Trigger 2
EFCT. Ativate trigger 0

That should do the trick.

[This message has been edited by LoserWithCoolName (edited 06-04-2003 @ 07:00 PM).]

Good call. I think we've solved the problem.

Triggers can do more than people think, finding how is a trick. That thing I showed for rams also works for food conumption, btw, you just need some refinments and an extra trigger or two. If anyone wants that code, I'll post it.

Solved?

It is obviously wrong. You don't want ownership changed to Gaia. As you have stated then it won't be attacked. Why should a empty Siege weapon be immune to attack.

[This message has been edited by BINGFA (edited 03-31-2002 @ 06:18 PM).]

I never said it had to be GAIA. Change it to an alled civ which will be attacked by the enemy if it suits you. Think before you bash other people triggerwork. And if it' multi-player, humans can tell ther units to attack GAIA units. GAIA would be cool cuz anyone would be able to use it.

You only need one trigger...

Trigger 1
Cond 0: Units Garrisoned = 0
Effect 0: Unit Frozen
Cond 1: Units Garrisoned = 1+
Effect 1: Unit Unfrozen

Loop on start on

No. Units garrisoned=0 means AT LEAST 0 units. Besides, that would take two triggers anyway.

Than you can change the 0 to say 50, because at no time can there be 50 units in a ram anyway. As far as taking two triggers away, I don't see how that changes anything, than again I'm tired and haven't exactly read through many of the replies. However you would need to add one effect to unactivate effect 0.

@BINFGA
Realisticly thinking, can a medieval ram move across a flat surface or uphill wihtout something pushing/pulling it? common sense people... that's why the title is "More realistic rams" moron...

So you will get this:

Trigger 0 (loop=on start=on)
Condition 0: Units Garrisoned 50
effect 0: Siege ram frozen

Trigger 1 (loop=on start=on)
Condition 0: Units Garrisoned 2
effect 0: deactivate trigger 0

This will not work... cuz if you deactivate trigger 0 it will not start over again. So if the units will get out of the ram again. The ram will be able to move again. So you should make a 3th trigger that makes. As soon the garrison of the ram is less then ?? it will freeze again but then you also will need a deactivate trigger.

So... how do you fix that?

Quote:

That is not the point is it? I never once said it should be moved unmanned.

When a siege engine was left unattended it was attackable and destroyable. That is my point.

Think before you call people a moron.

Here's a new theory, I haven't looked at it yet so I don't know what would be necessary, but why not make it so that It is frozen unless a unit is in it's area. You may have to make individual effects that allow walking units but not other siege units.

I actually think the units garrisoned = 0 should work...
Lemme check.

[edit] interesting... try it yourself. [/edit]

Worked for me, once I set up the triggers properly... i also ran into the problem of when I had one unit garrisoned, the ram would change ownership, kick me out of the ram, and change to player 3 again.

[This message has been edited by Ultima_Knight (edited 04-01-2002 @ 08:58 PM).]