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posted 12-08-05 09:13 AM CT (US)   



Review Requests


If you would like to request a review for your file, simply list the file name below and the Thread Reviewers here will take a look at it. However, please be patient as a skilled review can take some time to write. You can request reviews for your own file or of another download you think should receive more attention or because you believe the file is rated unfairly or is even over-rated.

Join as a Thread Reviewer


You need just four approved reviews to become a Thread Reviewer. Please post your request in this thread or send a mail to Mashek@heavengames.com, naming your last review. You do not have to review regularly, but keep in mind that if you have not posted or updated a review within three months you will be put on inactive. To become active again, simply find your name below and post a review. If your name is not listed inactive anymore, your last review will have dated before 01/01/09 (DD/MM/YY) and you may re-enter the thread after one posted review only.

Keep in mind that if you do intend to become a Thread Reviewer your review should not only endorse to help the author of the file but the downloader too. As such, a certain degree of detail is expected.




Thread Reviewers
(In order of no. of posted reviews – [ * ] = Official Reviewer)

144 Possidon: Single Player, Multiplayer, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS, AI-Files
84 Lord Basse*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS
75 Mashek*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities
46 Popeychops*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, AI-Files
25 Julius999*: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios
15 Dtrungle: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Utilities
10 Leif Ericson: Single Player, RMS, AI-Files
10 Fanica: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
09 Stroke: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
08 joshua4missions: Single Player, Mod Packs

Current inactive Thread Reviewers
(In order of time of inactivity)

05 Jecon: Single Player, Utilities
72 Sword_of_Storm (Jatayu)*: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS, AI-Files
27 Cilibinarii: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Utilities
23 FuzzyFurry25: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
16 Guthan: Single Player, Multiplayer, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS
08 hailstorm65: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities

~ Hall of Fame ~


231 Tanneur99
96 Lord_Fadawah
92 BrandNewCar
61 clayperboy
54 rwilde
31 Stephen Richards*
30 zyxomma100
25 Magnum Zero
24 RF_Gandalf




Review List

The list below consists of a number of requests and/or downloads recently rated by thread reviewers. Requests are marked R and updates U. Thread Reviewers are free to review whichever file they want, but should be aware that the designers at the top of each list are waiting the longest for a review. Files that have received a review in the time of request in this thread (whether by a thread reviewer or not) will be removed from the list unless a second opinion is requested.

AI Files: None

Utilities:
Bodies Stay (No Rotting), by Possidon; Reviewer: Stroke 4.0
Hero Expansion, by Possidon; Reviewer: Stroke 4.0
Buildings over of Trees Template, by Possidon; Reviewer, Fanica 2.5

Mod Packs:
R New North European Wall, by Possidon; No Reviewer
Aztec Shrines, by dementor561; Reviewer: Possidon 3.5, Stroke 3.5
Mountain Giant, by Courtjester1; Reviewer: Joshua4missions 4.5, Fanica 5.0, Possidon 5.0
Aztec Stable, by Mahazona; Reviewer: Stroke 3.0

Cinematic Scenarios:
Isolation Years, by Thunder77; Reviewer: Lord Basse 4.0
Norse on Yucatan, by Pietja; Reviewer: Lord Basse 3.4
Bitter Cold, by newIdea; Reviewer: Popeychops 5.0, Lord Basse 4.8
The Spirit of Alessia, by Sebastien; Reviewers: Mashek 4.8, Lord Basse 4.0

Single Player:
R Chrombasia - The Two Relics, by aMa; Reviewer: Mashek
R The Defence of Pavia, by Vizorslash; No Reviewer
R Fall of the Empire, by Ulysses_LW; No Reviewer
R Jengar's Quest, by Jecon; Reviewer: Mashek
R Compilation of Single Player Games, by jburnell; No Reviewer
R A Mans Home is His Castle, by joshua4missions; Reviewer: Jecon
R Darkness Upon Bree, by Possidon; No Reviewer
R The King of Madisgrad, by S_Bishop; No Reviewer
Seige of Nantu Castle, by joshua4missions; Reviewer: Popeychops 3.6, Dtrungle 3.8
Rebellion, by MrtnXII; Reviewer: Stroke 2.2
THE CONQUEROR, by jmsam; Reviewer: Stroke 1.2, Fanica 1.2
Mongol Invasion, by Fanica: Reviewer: Popeychops 3.8, Dtrungle 3.2, Possidon 3.8
Twists and Turns 1-The beginner's Campaign, by Stroke; Reviewer: Dtrungle 1.8
Hill Fort, by vonstranglej; Reviewer: Possidon 2.0, joshua4missions 2.4
The Bounty Hunter, by Julius999; Reviewer: Fanica 4.6, Possidon 5.0, Popeychops 4.0, Lord Basse 4.0, Dtrungle 5.0
Gwyndlegard, by Lord Basse; Reviewer: Julius999 4.6, Popeychops 4.8

Random Maps:
Sahara, by Possidon; Reviewer: Leif Ericson 3.0
Japan, by dementor561; Reviewer: Possidon 1.7

Multiplayer:
R World Map_Kings and Empires v 0.1, by Highlander_FFS; No Reviewer
R xTreMe BlooD, by LC_HaVoC; No Reviewer
R BattleFest!, by AdoptableMaple; No Reviewer
R PTO Gold Maze, by JuBuOrangie; No Reviewer
R Compilation of Multiplayer Games, by jburnell; No Reviewer
R Persia - Non Random Map, by Lakayaa; No Reviewer
R UDP - Deathly Cliffs - V3.2, by Heroes; No Reviewer
R Battleships, by TheReal_Hunter; No Reviewer
R The Seas of Egressa RP, by Guthan; No Reviewer


Recorded Games: None




Please read the Review Guidelines

Without trying to enforce the Review Guidelines as something as law, they are still a very important part of the review system here at Age of Kings Heaven, and are used to create consistency between reviewers at the Blacksmith in order to establish fairness and equality for reviews. With the Review Guidelines’ recent update all reviewers need to take into account the new addition of rules when reviewing. However, Angel SpineMan’s primary objective for reviewing in the old guidelines still applies today:

"This article will provide a description of how to write quality reviews for Age of Kings Heaven that are scored consistently between reviewers and are helpful to both the file's creator as well as the potential downloader."

In some cases, a small percentage of reviewers tend to review files according to their own rules, leading to inconsistency between reviews at the Blacksmith, which is neither helpful nor fair to no one. To have reviews at the Blacksmith that are fair and helpful, reviewers have to follow some rules to score consistently.

If you have any questions about reviewing, please do not hesitate to post in this thread!




Single Player Campaigns and Scenarios


There are many invaluable lessons to learn when becoming a good reviewer, and a few other things besides that will result in a good and fair review. Some things are self-evident when reviewing a file; in general, do not review game styles you do not enjoy and review files according to the date of its release. There are many files back in 2000-2002 that received a score of a high 4, which would not fit the standards of today. You have to take into account the standards of the day, and rate accordingly. In addition, if the scenario is designed for original Age of Kings, review it playing AoK.

Below you will find a general breakdown of each category from a review for your convenience.

PLAYABILITY is about the fun you had while playing a scenario, and here you need to mention what affected your enjoyment in a positive and/or negative way. BALANCE is about how easy or difficult a scenario was for you. You should mention which difficulty you played on when reviewing, although this is not mandatory. A good approach to reviewing a file would be to start with moderate and later change to standard, to see if the scenario was too easy or too hard or well balanced overall – before ending off with hard difficulty. However, as not all files are difficulty-level-dynamic, this needs to be taken into account as well. In general, remember that you are rating the file according to your own skill level and not that of others. CREATIVITY covers every aspect of a scenario and does not need anything new to achieve a high score. MAP DESIGN scores compared to a random map which rates 2.0. Anything worse or better than a random map may be rated up or down accordingly. Some tips for rating this category is that you rate what you see during game play, which means no Marco and Polo. The map size and how much of the map was used should not affect the rating. STORY/INSTRUCTIONS is a little more interesting than some. Probably the most common detail reviewers tend to overlook is that this category covers two aspects of any scenario, story and instructions. Not just one or the other. If the file is lacking in one then you can make note of that in the review and mark down accordingly! However, this does not pertain to multiplayer scenarios, where a story is not mandatory. In general, the presence of a functional story (while not necessary being a good story) with instructions should be midpoint, a 3. From there you should be able to give an accurate overall rating for this category.

Scenarios without Fighting

An exception to the balance category is when the author of a particular file did not intend any fighting, or very little of, to feature in the scenario. From the review guidelines:

“One important note about scoring the balance category for scenarios is that where no fighting takes place, such as some puzzle scenarios and some RPG style scenarios, is that just because the player cannot die in such scenarios, that doesn't mean the scenario isn't balanced. Difficulty can also be present via puzzles or other devices, and the balance of these should be taken into account.”

Rating Cut-scene Style Scenarios

Cut-scenes rate like any other scenario, the only difference is that most cut-scenes do not allow any interaction for the player, requiring only that the player sits down and watch as the story unfolds. Cut-scenes are a mixed bag of lollies; some designers appreciate them, others however do not. The purpose of a cut-scene is to tell a story, to continue or conclude a project, like in Ulio with the old man in the forest and the two travellers. In the general sense of the word Playability, we rate the fun we had while watching the cut-scene and how playable it is.

The very definition of Playability denotes many errors, some already obvious. In Tanneur99’s words, “playability is a bastard word”. It does not exist in the English language and separating the word into ‘play’ and ‘ability’ gives an incorrect meaning for the category. ‘Ability to play’ would be listed under balance, the ability of a player to play a certain difficulty level of a file. It is a common error to believe that cut-scenes are unplayable. Gordon Farrell wrote that you play a cut-scene in the same sense as you play a CD on your CD player. If the CD has scratches and/or is dirty it is less playable to unplayable. A cut-scene is less playable to unplayable when we encounter bugs and/or lag. In closing, rate the fun you had watching the cut-scene and deduct for bugs and lag.

For rating Balance in cut-scenes, the review guideline gives us this description:

“For scenarios with no interactivity, such as cutscenes, this category should be used to examine the flow and technical merits of the cutscene: did it run smoothly? Was everything technically put together well?”

This means that reviewers can now rate down in this category for all those dodgy timing sequences, overlapping music, and anything else that would not necessarily affect one’s enjoyment but the technical aspect of a cut-scene. This also gives balance in cinematic scenarios more depth and meaning, and contributes more to the overall rating of a review than previously attained. Every technical aspect is to be taken into account, and what happens on screen should generally correspond smoothly with dialogue and the overall transition of the story. Generally speaking, the less the cinematic leaves up to the viewer’s imagination, the higher the quality of the presentation. In saying all that, a cinematic should never feel rushed or sluggish, but proceed from scene to scene as the atmosphere and story suggests.

Demos, Teasers, Unfinished Scenarios

Unfinished files, demos and teasers are common at the Blacksmith and make up a great percentage of submissions. Many designers, like writers, look for feedback on their work: to help get past a certain point in their project where they might be hindered from progressing, or to catch up on any bugs that might be bothering the author from earlier in the file. Some authors return to the file and provide the Blacksmith with a complete update of the file as a result of the feedback.

When reviewing unfinished files, it’s important not to discriminate because it is an incomplete work. There’s no reason to knock down points just because somebody put ‘Demo’ or ‘Teaser’ in the title to get some feedback to know what he/she could improve on in an update. Rate a demo as if it is a finished product. This will achieve the best possible feedback for the author of an unfinished file.

Multiplayer

The Official Review Guidelines is the directive for rating single player scenarios and multiplayer scenarios, with an exception to Balance only. When judging BALANCE in multiplayer scenarios, you rate nothing else but the starting positions of each player, which should be equal for all to achieve the highest rating. For more on this please read post 264 of the previous thread.

Random Map Script


AI-Files

The first question to ask when rating an AI-File is what is the AI intended to do and how well does it perform in that specific area? There are AI-Files developed for many intents and purposes: for scenario design, training, specific maps (e.g. Arabia), death match, tournament, defensive/ aggressive files, water maps or land maps only, etc.

If the AI-file is developed for Age of Kings test it playing Age of Kings only. Rating an AI according to your own experience might be biased unless the AI cheats. Cheating AI-files, as forbidden for tournaments, are meant to play against human players. A good way to test a non cheating AI is against the standard AI. If its performance compares to the standard one, it is average and the minimum rating should be a 3. In general, rate the AI-file according to its time. Many AI-files were developed to beat another specific one. It would be unfair to knock off points of an AI developed in 2000 because it loses against a recent one.

Modification Pack Script

A Modification Pack Script (MPS) is mainly an item for the player, which has a limited use for designers; the content will not always suit a designer’s endeavours in scenario design and is very limited to its audience. Keep this in mind when you rate mod pack scripts for USEFULNESS/NOVELTY and QUALITY/INSTRUCTIONS. The main categories are USEFULNESS and QUALITY for the overall rating of a MPS. Use NOVELTY and INSTRUCTIONS to correct the category rating. Still, for a perfect rating the MPS has to excel in all four categories.

Recorded Games

The value of a recorded game is highly subjective depending mainly on the purpose for which the submitter uploaded it. A recorded game must have a specific and defined purpose so the viewer can gain knowledge and/or entertainment value from the game. The submitter must specify exactly what to look for, what the point of the upload is.

It is up to the reviewer to check if there was any purpose and how well the recorded game met the intended goals. If it is supposed to be an example of a rushing tactic but no attacks happen until 30 minutes into the game, it is a bad example of the tactic. The rating is not about how well everybody played, if the teams were equally strong, you can mention that but it should not affect the rating.

The questions to answer: What is the purpose of the record? How well does the game show the intended goals? Is it entertaining and/or can the viewer gain knowledge from it?

Utilities

There is no official guideline for reviewing utilities, but for some ideas you can go here. A utility is a tool for the designer and has hardly any use for the player; keep this in mind when you rate utilities for USEFULNESS/NOVELTY and QUALITY/INSTRUCTIONS. Often you cannot rate the novelty factor because the file is another eye candy map of Lord of the Rings, a Volcano, Waterfall, Trigger Guide, Tutorial or collection of battle sounds. In other words, nothing new. Originally the fifth category was Creativity but this is too close to Novelty, better to have the two rated together if possible. When you feel Novelty does not apply, you can replace it with Creativity. The four categories are of equal importance for the overall rating of a utility.




File Updates and Obsolete Reviews

Please edit your review after a file update. A designer can ask for the removal of all reviews after an update if he feels that they do not represent the actual version of his submission. Reviews that address issues that are fixed, altered, ameliorated do not serve the visitors of our site. A review has to be a valuable tool for the designer and the downloader.

File Updates - Reviews to Edit
(In order of date of the update)
None





Review Thread History

Luke Gevaerts started the Review Request Thread 03/30/2002. Tanneur took over 11/30/2002 until 7/11/2009. I (Mashek) have since taken over and updated the thread as best I can to feature more relevant information according to today’s guidelines.

[This message has been edited by Mashek (edited 07-15-2010 @ 09:01 PM).]

Replies:
posted 12-08-05 09:14 AM CT (US)     1 / 2530  
Moderators please sticky this thread and let the previous sink.
posted 12-08-05 05:20 PM CT (US)     2 / 2530  
So the old thread maxed out, eh? It's about time! I wonder though, how many review threads have existed over the course of AoK history?
posted 12-08-05 05:59 PM CT (US)     3 / 2530  
"I would like to withdraw my review request for Undead 3 [Massacre], as it has been superceded by a new version.
I request a review of the new version, Undead 2 [Gateways], file number 7293.

Thanks in advance.
*laughs hysterically, despairs of ever getting any sort of well-founded feedback.*"


I guess it went down in the mass.


Current projects:

Undead 2 [Gateways] released
Site http://www.hellstromshive.net/UndeadHome.html

• Undead 1 [Resurrection] 99% done

posted 12-09-05 09:34 AM CT (US)     4 / 2530  
Your wish is my command, 99!

Thanks to you and heres to the new Review thread and may it be as successful as the others!


"I take it that this is the Anastasia Scud pines for?" - Epic Commander
"What Ana said. Use sugar and the whip." - aka the Pilot
"I think you will realize the emphasis was on Ana and Cake." - Monk

[This message has been edited by AnastasiaKafka (edited 12-09-2005 @ 09:36 AM).]

posted 12-11-05 11:37 AM CT (US)     5 / 2530  
I would want to make a request for review of the GeniED2 Enhanced Version under Utilities section.

http://aok.heavengames.com/blacksmith/showfile.php?fileid=7341

Thank you.

posted 12-12-05 03:06 AM CT (US)     6 / 2530  
I would want to make a request for review of The Foundations of The Empire v2 english

and

A Spanish Italy (english version)

and

Prologue of Europe Imperial english version

Thank you.


Greetings zampitronicos to the lovers give the Age
visit my web http://personales.ya.com/zampi69

[This message has been edited by zampi69 (edited 12-12-2005 @ 03:08 AM).]

posted 12-12-05 05:21 AM CT (US)     7 / 2530  
I'll review the first zampi don't have time to do all three

Wise words of the month
Can't think of any right now
Current Projects
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posted 12-12-05 06:14 AM CT (US)     8 / 2530  
zampi - I'll review the second (and third if nobody else steps in). Is it better if the same person reviews the first two?

Luke - many thanks for the review.

Not sure if this has been discussed before but has thought ever been given to restricting reviewing to people signed up in this thread?

[This message has been edited by Stephen Richards (edited 12-12-2005 @ 06:30 AM).]

posted 12-12-05 08:31 AM CT (US)     9 / 2530  
Ok Stephen you can review the first two I'll review the third.

Wise words of the month
Can't think of any right now
Current Projects
Meridiean (5%)
posted 12-12-05 01:25 PM CT (US)     10 / 2530  
Thank you guys.

If you discover some hidden bug ,that is possible that there is.
Tell it to me and I will try to upgrade the scenario as soon as possible.


Greetings zampitronicos to the lovers give the Age
visit my web http://personales.ya.com/zampi69
posted 12-12-05 03:14 PM CT (US)     11 / 2530  

Quote:

Not sure if this has been discussed before but has thought ever been given to restricting reviewing to people signed up in this thread?

I don't think that would be such a good idea. We need more reviewers, that's the main concern. If their reviews are approved then there's no reason to exclude them just because they aren't signed up here, is there?

posted 12-12-05 06:14 PM CT (US)     12 / 2530  
Well, it's just that there seem to be two standards for reviews - I noticed one the other day - and I idly wondered if this devalued the better ones. There used to be official and non-official but that distinction has been dropped. I don't feel very strongly about it, just throwing it open. Also I don't think we are short of reviewers, most of the list is covered.

Rangar - fine.

zampi - that's OK but I hope you've done some testing already.

posted 12-12-05 10:42 PM CT (US)     13 / 2530  

Quote:

most of the list is covered

How many submissions even make it to the list? We should be aiming to review everything, (at least in single player, some stuff like recorded games aren't so important) but we don't have enough people to even keep up with what we have.

posted 12-13-05 01:26 AM CT (US)     14 / 2530  
Hi guys,
I was hoping that I would find someone to review my updated version of King Richard's Early life.

Thanks in advance(if any of you actually would take the time to do so)

Mk101

posted 12-13-05 03:53 AM CT (US)     15 / 2530  

Quote:

I don't think that would be such a good idea. We need more reviewers, that's the main concern. If their reviews are approved then there's no reason to exclude them just because they aren't signed up here, is there?

I agree, and this thread is not intended to qualify visitor reviews.

Quote:

We should be aiming to review everything

The review features by default have that aim.

If you mean by reviewing everything we don't moderate reviews, then to get the opinions of AOM designers on the history of their review feature at AOMH might change your mind. In short they were discouraged by it. and thought it wasn't meaningful. In other words if everything is reviewed but has little value to the player and designer then having everything reviewed would be meaningless.

Stephen:
I would like to see the official reviewer section restored, and the honor be made something for members to aspire too, and accomplish in a responsive way. However, judging from all the feedback I've received that is not even a goal right now.


"I take it that this is the Anastasia Scud pines for?" - Epic Commander
"What Ana said. Use sugar and the whip." - aka the Pilot
"I think you will realize the emphasis was on Ana and Cake." - Monk

[This message has been edited by AnastasiaKafka (edited 12-13-2005 @ 03:56 AM).]

posted 12-13-05 08:29 AM CT (US)     16 / 2530  

Quote:

I would like to see the official reviewer section restored

I second that, and I think you'll find there are quite a few that would like to see that feature return.

posted 12-13-05 09:28 AM CT (US)     17 / 2530  

Quote:

I would like to see the official reviewer section restored


And the reason it's gone is that these things are dictated by HeavenGames centrally and they don't want sites to vary?

Quote:

We should be aiming to review everything


That's an admirable aim, but which is better: 75% of submissions reviewed to a lower level, or 50% reviewed to a higher level?

Quote:

this thread is not intended to qualify visitor reviews.


No, but I suppose I was wondering why, and whether most visitors to the Blacksmith are aware of the distinction (even under the old system).
posted 12-13-05 11:56 AM CT (US)     18 / 2530  
I'll try give this one a review:

R Lonely Singing Angel v1-0a, by paladin_maker0.

No promises..

posted 12-13-05 05:23 PM CT (US)     19 / 2530  
posted 12-13-05 05:36 PM CT (US)     20 / 2530  
I'm not sure if Tanneur got my email I sent many, many days ago. He may have deleted it, thinking it was spam. It was about a review for the Second Kretharn War I wanted. How I wanted a detailed review, if possible.

-Sorry for any inconveniance.

posted 12-14-05 06:46 PM CT (US)     21 / 2530  

Quote:

And the reason it's gone is that these things are dictated by HeavenGames centrally and they don't want sites to vary?

Yes, and the Heavens really need to be all the same so they are manageable from a technical standpoint. I guess the best we can hope for is that something very similar to the old official 'Best Of' section could be implemented for all the HG Communities.


"I take it that this is the Anastasia Scud pines for?" - Epic Commander
"What Ana said. Use sugar and the whip." - aka the Pilot
"I think you will realize the emphasis was on Ana and Cake." - Monk

[This message has been edited by AnastasiaKafka (edited 12-16-2005 @ 11:22 AM).]

posted 12-14-05 11:58 PM CT (US)     22 / 2530  
But the other heavens don't have 'officiality'
posted 12-16-05 08:51 AM CT (US)     23 / 2530  
I've reviewed two things now:
The Man with no name by Scud 4.6
The prolouge of Europe imperial english version by Zampi69 4.4

Thats all for now


Wise words of the month
Can't think of any right now
Current Projects
Meridiean (5%)

[This message has been edited by Rangar (edited 12-16-2005 @ 11:59 AM).]

posted 12-16-05 10:05 AM CT (US)     24 / 2530  
Ranger, are you sure you've reviewed Foundations, and not Prologue?
posted 12-16-05 12:00 PM CT (US)     25 / 2530  
Your right Stephen thanks.

Wise words of the month
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posted 12-16-05 11:53 PM CT (US)     26 / 2530  
I've done a review today for Mk101's Last Samurai campaign. I've also updated my review for

Quote:

06/23/05 Hrolf's Adventure (Updated), by GeodesicDragon; Reviewer:rwilde

some time ago.

I'm working on a review for Athelstan, started replaying on hard this evening. I'll be happy to do a review for anyone else in a timely fashion, all I ask is that you've done some reviews as well.

posted 12-17-05 07:41 AM CT (US)     27 / 2530  
I'm not in this reviewing thing you have got going here, but when i review, it explains all or most aspects of the game. If someone reviews my game " The Second Kretharn War " in full detail, I will definately review a campaign and or single player of your choice.

[This message has been edited by Mashek331 (edited 12-17-2005 @ 07:43 AM).]

posted 12-17-05 11:11 AM CT (US)     28 / 2530  

Quote:

I've done a review today for Mk101's Last Samurai campaign

Playability 3-1 Is this some new scoring system I’ve not heard about?

posted 12-17-05 02:15 PM CT (US)     29 / 2530  
I put 3-1 to emphasize the 1 point deducted for the victory bug at the end. It does look quite confusing I guess, feel free to edit.
posted 12-17-05 08:25 PM CT (US)     30 / 2530  
For RMS Reviewers-

Please, please recommend me a good MICHI map OR a map where teams start in their bases separated by a big mass of something with only ONE road in between them. I would love to see the latter.

I already have Gandalf's michi and elf-norush, and they are great. Yet I don't really like the idea of SO civilizations gaining advantage over non SO civilizations.

posted 12-17-05 11:08 PM CT (US)     31 / 2530  
Heh, but what can use use instead of trees? Mines would take forever to get through, unless you used those beta pile mines, but they take heaps of micromanagement to mine. Anything besides trees would look so darned weird too. I've suggested a map where cliffs are used to separate players in the past, but those ideas were always shot down by people with superior intellect, for reasons I could not understand.
posted 12-18-05 08:40 AM CT (US)     32 / 2530  

Quote:

But the other heavens don't have 'officiality'

That's very perceptive, and I'm proposing that they be given it much like ours was taken away.


"I take it that this is the Anastasia Scud pines for?" - Epic Commander
"What Ana said. Use sugar and the whip." - aka the Pilot
"I think you will realize the emphasis was on Ana and Cake." - Monk
posted 12-18-05 10:09 AM CT (US)     33 / 2530  

Quoted from rwilde:

I put 3-1 to emphasize the 1 point deducted for the victory bug at the end. It does look quite confusing I guess, feel free to edit.

Edited, review approved.

[This message has been edited by Tanneur99 (edited 12-18-2005 @ 10:10 AM).]

posted 12-18-05 02:33 PM CT (US)     34 / 2530  

Quote:

That's very perceptive, and I'm proposing that they be given it much like ours was taken away.

The two other heavens I visit, EEH and AoEH, probably wouldn't want it. There aren't that many reviewers and at AoEH we don't really want to be called 'official'. There are probably a few that would like the change, but for those two I think there would be a strong 'masses against the classes' response. Perhaps you should email some staff from different heavens to get a feel for their thoughts on it.

Edit: Finished my review for Athelstan

I might do some more reviews for the contest, though it takes time.

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I'm not in this reviewing thing you have got going here, but when i review, it explains all or most aspects of the game. If someone reviews my game " The Second Kretharn War " in full detail, I will definately review a campaign and or single player of your choice.

Sure Mashek. I don't mind what you review, just submit a detailed review for some unreviewed campaign or scenario and I'll return the favour. Call it communism, but if everyone returns the favour it goes on indefinitely, and even if a lot of people don't want to review, there will still be plenty more reviews.

[This message has been edited by rwilde (edited 12-18-2005 @ 11:34 PM).]

posted 12-19-05 00:02 AM CT (US)     35 / 2530  
Thanks for the advice but I have my own strategy for bringing this to HG leadership. As far as AOEH goes all I can say is 'we' here at AOKH didn't want to lose the old feature either. Of course any proposal would have to take into consideration the technical aspect, and would probably be left up to the Heavens as to what they want to do with such a feature.

Still, I think you are confusing the 'officiality' of the old Best Of AoK feature with review moderation. The Official Reviews were a feature separate from review moderation. Official Reviews were evaluated by the Moderation Team just as the visitor reviews were. Also, review moderation is being done at the most active Heavens, whether or not they have Moderators specifically dedicated to the task or not. The Moderating Reviews has been welcomed and has popular support from the visiting members of these Heavens. So that will not end, and will probably just remain somewhat tailored to each Heaven's needs. That is, I'm sure that if someone unrealistically downgrades a design at AOEH that the review will be removed.

Anyway, any new feature I would propose would be more responsive to the members and made to be more like a reward in recognition for writing good reviews and contributing to the site. The feature I envision would have rewarded you among others for your great contribution made in Reviewing.

- I have to mention your great review of Athelstan as I found your remarks very flattering of my role as playtester. Thank you for your kindness! However, if I influenced the design in any way it could have only been out of inspiration, as Stephen submitted the design to me in a very advanced beta stage for playtesting. If I can take some credit for anything it would be the bug free nature of the final design as I found a few early on. Perhaps there were some other game play issues that he was able to use my feedback to improve, but I assure you that I was very much as captivated by the map design as you were strait away and offered no suggestions for improvement that were not technical. I guess Stephen would best be able to say if my map designs inspired any of the awesome maps found in the HCC campaign, but either way I was happy to have the opportunity to playtest.


"I take it that this is the Anastasia Scud pines for?" - Epic Commander
"What Ana said. Use sugar and the whip." - aka the Pilot
"I think you will realize the emphasis was on Ana and Cake." - Monk

[This message has been edited by AnastasiaKafka (edited 12-19-2005 @ 00:40 AM).]

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