You guys rip off graphics with no remorse...
I am sure that Tzontlimixtli has many hours invested in these graphics, you don't even mention his name, instead you say "completely worked Enkeli Studios". Sucks to be a graphic designer these days. No one wants to help you out while you are making the stuff, they just wait for you to go away, and then release it as their own 'greatest mod ever' smh.

[This message has been edited by Dire_Wolf (edited 08-21-2014 @ 04:36 PM).]

Dire_wolf is right. Do you have the permission of people to use their graphics?
I also don't really understand much of the text. But what I get from it is that you are making a lot of promises and such. How much of this project is already actually completed (apart from the graphics you used without mentioning the artists).

completely worked Enkeli

Really? Wow! I really love the buildings! How did you make them?

lol laught when i saw the screens.

Hi, try to communicate with Tzontlimixtli, but not, I think it died, so take the buildings and have created new a vase of thing, so many are created by my work group, I leave an example. This is not your job. Echo of all the buildings that have put the've changed. :v

He didn't reply so you thought it was okay to take it anyway? Adding or changing a couple of things still doesn't make it your work.

Enkeli, it's considered proper etiquette to contact the original creator of the graphics and obtain their permission to use them before including them in your own project.

Everybody here, from what I've seen, is perfectly generous and has no problem sharing their graphics with others. There are even entire threads set up for this purpose. But it's just common courtesy to obtain the proper permissions first. Aside from the ethical issues, you really don't want to be labelled as "that guy" who rips stuff off.

[This message has been edited by HockeySam18 (edited 08-21-2014 @ 06:45 PM).]

The buildings in the first screens are not edited by you at all, and frankly it is beside the point. It is important not only to give credit but also to ask for permission. Please don't take all of the buildings and chop them up either. If you want to make mods I can help point you in the right direction, I'm sure there are others who can help you out as well. I think the SketchUp article by MrWednesday is a great place to start. Taking peoples work is a surefire way to make sure that graphic artists steer clear of this site, and go to more respectful modding communities.

Also to clarify further:

If you use graphics from another game: give proper credit

If you make your own graphics and use someone elses comment: give credit to the original concept artist

If you edit or use someone elses graphics as a "base": give credit and say what you did to customize it.

Also mention and give credit even if:

You downloaded it as a free 3d model

It is a terrain

The author died

You dont know whp the author is

It was only a couple of graphics

It was only half of a graphic

I hope that covers all the bases.

[This message has been edited by Dire_Wolf (edited 08-21-2014 @ 08:03 PM).]

Im pretty sure that he is just using the converted civi 3 units from Hawk.net (he is also a member there also).Have the decency to credit the people who converted them.

I agree, I've nothing against your project but the "completely worked Enkeli Studios" and the lack of credits. You should know that we are a modders community, we don't earn money with those kind of things so you HAVE to give credits, to thanks all the people who worked freely to help a community of fan of AoK...

Wow, this guy is bold.

Jorgito's mod

Scandinavian Woods

Both re-uploaded without any credits and I bet without asking for permission either.



Oh and I think this is an unedited sheet by Sandris, creator of many quality civ 3 units.

Edit: It gets even worse.

[This message has been edited by John the Late (edited 08-22-2014 @ 05:47 AM).]

Sadly, this is quite common at the Steam Workshop. Uploading files without anyone checking them allows for rapid sharing of work, but at the same time it enables people to plagiarize without real consequences. (The fact that one must give real life contact details when reporting a possible case of plagiarism does not have a positive effect on the situation.)

Edit:

Enkeli, if you wish to participate in this community you should do well to realize that you have to play by the rules. You cannot go around taking other people's work and passing it off as your own. Please keep in mind that uploading such files to the AoKH Blacksmith will have serious consequences for your HG account.

Now, as Dire Wolf already said, there are plenty of people here who are willing to assist you in the creation of new graphics. Why not start designing your own buildings and units?

[This message has been edited by Dead_End (edited 08-22-2014 @ 06:06 AM).]

All of his stuff are just ripped off from AOKH or Hawk.net

Oh, he directly presents A.G.E./Turtle Pack as created by "Enkeli Studios ©"!
And he uses adfly links, possibly hoping to gain something. Isn't this a serious violation?

Not to mentioned that a lot of the declared features are not possible - "the enhanced graphics engine and improved visual detail", while the pictures he posted are badly resized and cut, they are not even actually placed in the game engine.

[This message has been edited by aoe_scout (edited 08-22-2014 @ 06:20 AM).]

A very interesting project, but you should really learn to ask people for permission to use other peoples work in your mod, and also credit anyone whose work has been used in any way.

I don't know which one is worse, taking all the work of others without crediting them or naming a studio after yourself.

Okay guys can we stop bashing him already? I know what he did was wrong but still most of this thread is just basically saying the same thing.