Marcus and Quintus are not names of slaves, but roman names. Romans didn't took other romans slaves.

Marcus and Quintus are Roman names given to them by their owners.

EDIT: Any suggestions for names?

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 05-03-2006 @ 09:34 PM).]

Uh... dunno.

It depends on the slaves' place of origin. Romans took slaves from wars, and they made war with everyone...

The slaves are from the mediterrenean, so their names may have been close to Roman names.

Anyway, would you like to playtest, I'll send it to you once I complete the current stage I'm working on.

Romans are damned bloodthirsty.

This looks really interesting. I can't playtest right now though, sorry .

Clarification on Roman names:

Roman names for citizens came in packs of 3. Let's take a look at this name:

Lucius Caecilius Iucundus

Lucius, (c's are hard, like k's, in Latin) is his praenomen, his first name. Caecilius is his immediate family's name (nomen),Iucundus is his cognomen. Let's say that Caecilius has a son, who he has decided to name Quintus. That son's name would be Quintus Caecilius Iucundus. If Caecilius had a daughter, his daughter's name, by tradition, would be the feminine version of her father's name. Her name would be Lucia, unless he wanted to name her specially. Let's look at some other Roman Praenomen:

Marcus
Lucius
Gaius
Gnaeus
Felix (special grammar rules)
Clemens
Claudius
Appius
Decimus
Publius
Secundus
Servius
Sextus
Spurius (negative connotations "of illegitimate birth")
Tertius
Tiberius
Titus
Rufus
etc...

We can take any one of these names and make it feminine as well. Claudius would be come Claudia, Lucius = Lucia, Marcus = Marcia, Rufus = Rufilla, etc...

Slave names are much easier. A slave would be named during capture, the slavery process, or when bought. That slave would have only their praenomen, or first name. If they were set free by their masters, a slave would gain the middle and last names of their masters. For example. Felix is a slave of Lucius Caecilius Iucundus. Say, for example, he saved a baby from being stolen, so his master decides to set him free. Felix would now be known as Felix Caecilius Iucundus.

If you would like more information or help, feel free to consult me. My e-mail is: boosh at kbuch dot com

EDIT:
This concerns the "guards" who are fighting alongside the slaves. In all historical sense, this would not happen. Unless the guards felt a strong tie to the slave community, something I rather doubt, they would be fighting to get out and help the Roman army. Garrisoned soldiers in Rome were also a local police force, and therefore, very hostile to slaves as was the law. If a slave was a witness in any form of case, that slave was tortured in accordance with the law to make sure they got an "accurate" confession. The people who did this? Why, it was the local garrison. The slaves would not ally themselves with the very people who threaten their lives. Nor would the guards. Furthermore, the peoples are so separate, the guards consider themselves very above the slaves. Superiority complex? Yes, the Romans had a big one. Allying with slaves would just be considered an insult. Even if the combat was for a good purpose, the unit of soldiers would be disbanded and imprisoned for even suggesting it.

[This message has been edited by Boosh (edited 05-04-2006 @ 07:03 AM).]

I'll playtest- Therunnerking90@yahoo.com

This sounds great. The names are great too, just keep them that way regardless of historical inaccuracies. You never know, maybe people did have those names, regardless of what "the so called" history books say. The people who wrote those books weren't there, and neither were we. Have what names you please.

Ok, I have sent out the playtest version 1. It highlights the start of the revolt of the slaves, introduces our characters, and sets the stage. Included is the initial slave revolt, followed by battle preparation, and a first, small battle with the Romans. I have sent a copy to The_Slayer90, if anyone else wants to playtest, just post your email here and I will send it to you ASAP.

EDIT: As for the guards, they play a more complex role later on, for now they will be left as is.

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 05-04-2006 @ 09:52 PM).]

@ BIHSting,
I dunno if you sent it yet, nut I havn't got it. Did you spell my email address right. There's a link in my sig.

EDIT: nvmnd I just got it.

[This message has been edited by The_Slayer90 (edited 05-04-2006 @ 09:55 PM).]

What did you think?

I thought it was really good and captivating. I will send a more detailed report soon. Although I loved the storyline.

Anyone else want to playtest Version 1?

Slaves weren't given Roman names. There were specific names for slaves that were given by masters, such as Ciro.

Sounds cool, I'll playtest kfish2oo2@hotmail.com

Call it "The Slave Revolt" in the topic line and i'll get it.

"Slaves weren't given Roman names. There were specific names for slaves that were given by masters, such as Ciro."

What would you mean by Roman names? I explained that already. Romans had 3 names, the mark of an outsider or slave was one name. Yes, some slaves had inventive names, like Grumio, but slaves could be named anything. There was no hard and fast law saying slaves could only have specific names.

c'mon leave him alone. This is his campaign, he can do whatever he wants no matter what he says. Who cares about names. I personally don't. What matters to me is the gameplay or the plot. This is a very fun campaign and i enjoyed it very much.

@ BIHSting I'll try to post a more detailed report. As of the moment I'm very busy.

Thanks slayer, no problem.

I have sent version 1 to you, kfish2oo2 I will be sending version 2 soon, with more of the plot development.

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 05-06-2006 @ 01:12 PM).]

Just played it.
Very good job, nicely done. There are a few minor points though:
1) When you have to train the militia in front of the blacksmith, well that takes far too long. Perhaps it can be done in groups of 10?
2) Resources: There arent enough. The farms are fine (except you have to build your own mill. Maybe convert the mill which is already there to player 1?) Stone is more than enough, but there is no gold. You need gold to build the archers, monks and to upgrade to Imp. Age. You need to start the player with more wood too, in order to maintain the farms.

The balance is spot on so far. Your advice about surounding the enemy is perfect. I tried to win the battle in a frontal assault but that proves near impossible.

Keep up the good work, looking forward to the next installment!

Hmm, the mill should get converted on it's own. As for resources, yes, I will be adding some more, but you are supposed to use the abundant stone and trade it for gold and buy other resources at the market. All that will be changed in the next installment.

The militia, I still am not sure what I will do for them. It takes a while, but if i make the training space too large, it may interfere with buildings the player builds. I'm not sure, but something will be done for that in version 2, or 3.

The opening revolt will be larger, too. I will add more militia so the player doesn't drop below 75, but I will also add some more slave owners, to make it more difficult.

Version 2 allows you to take control of the guards, too, during the second battle, which will involve the Romans attacking the walls of Nemausus.

I am about 80% done with version 2. Only things I have to finish are the final scene in the scenario and the militia and blacksmith issue. I hope to release one more version of this scenario and start the next one.

Playtest version 2 has been sent to kfish2oo2 and The_Slayer90. Please post comments, and/or suggestions after you test it.

Anyone else who wants to playtest will get the most recent version. Just post your e-mail if you want to playtest.

kfish took the words out of my mouth. all of the things he said, I would have said.

I've got a question. Should I divide the storyline into seperate scenarios, or should I keep it all in one scenario? get back at me on this one.

PS: How did version 2 go, Slayer and kfish?

sry. havn't been able to play version 2 yet. I'm soo heaped getting ready for finals. I will as soon as possible. Just wanted to let you know that this has a lot of potential, and I can see this becoming a great success. You just might want to add some music and sounds to it. If you don't have any I can give you some. Just email me asking for some and tell me what kinds you need. I'll test version 2 as soon as possible.

Sounds, havent thought of that one yet. Good idea though. Can someone tell me where i can find;

Battle Music
Wilderness sounds
Uplifting, revolutionary music
Generic Town Music
Anything Else you think will go well with this theme

Also, will someone be willing to narrate the scenario (just the parts where the narrator is describing the events). This would be a great finishing touch.

Like I said. Email me and i'll send you what sounds and music I have. Just let me know in the message again. Then I'll go through my music and see. sound good?

Too bad... I took the music I uploaded to my temporary website off after you downloaded it, slayer. At least you can email it to him.

EDIT: What units are you using for this, BIHSting? There are no Roman ones, so are you using men-at-arms or something? Or are you using a modpack?

[This message has been edited by spartan2 (edited 05-08-2006 @ 10:38 PM).]

@ Spartan
Yeah I was thinking of sending him those. And in aswer to your question, he is using man at arms and longswordsmen for the infantry with some halberdiers.

EDIT: @ BIHStind
I might be able to do the narrating, but my friend is borrowing my mic so i'll ask him to give it back for a while.

[This message has been edited by The_Slayer90 (edited 05-09-2006 @ 08:38 AM).]

Hey sorry BIHSting, haven't playtested yet, I've just discovered the joys of Wings 3D and have been a bit distracted. Will playtest tonight.

BIHSting... now there's a name I haven't seen in SD for quite some time...

No, I won't be using a modpack for this, I figure the real creativity is making a project with what the editor gives you.

@Slayer: If you can do the narrating, then record the white text only. I don't want any of the characters to be recorded.

I can send playtest version 2 to any willing playtesters!

Quoted from Oliver:

Yep I'm back after a loooonng absence.

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 05-09-2006 @ 06:41 PM).]

I'll try, but infortunatly my friend needs my mic. How soon do you need it?

Take your time.

By the way, how was version 2? Any thing I need to work on?

Let me go through it one more time. I don't usually pay attention the firs time I play something. I'll try to send the sounds soon.