Error 705 - Unit id unknown to DLC system - Age of Kings Heaven Forums

Zetnus
Squire

posted 01-16-16 09:46 AM CT (US) 1 / 10

This should explain it it:
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/-1/494632768635141446/?appid=221380
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/-1/496880503063487509/?appid=221380

The problem is that 705 is the cow in AoF. Their new system is recognizing what it thinks is an AoF object in what it thinks is an AoC campaign, and so it refuses to load it.
This is a problem with various obscure AoC objects with IDs below 866 which were replaced with new AoF objects.

As such, the data for the AoC objects still exists, it's just a matter of telling the game that the unit ID (705, in this case) is also allowed to be in basegame scenarios. The devs have been responsive in the past and fixed some of the units IDs I complained about.

Edit:
Ideally, they should just exempt all unit IDs below 866 from DLC version checks. That would solve this once and for all.

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HockeySam18
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posted 01-16-16 10:21 AM CT (US) 2 / 10

I forwarded this on to people who should be able to accomplish a fix...eventually

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Popeychops
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posted 01-16-16 11:22 AM CT (US) 3 / 10

If this is a pure AoF bug, can it be run without AoF?

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Zetnus
Squire

posted 01-16-16 03:07 PM CT (US) 4 / 10

If this is a pure AoF bug, can it be run without AoF?

It cannot be run in the HD Edition unless you are on a pre-African Kingdoms patch, or unless you change the scenario dependencies of that scenario so that it now requires AoF. At which point it will work, but you will have a cow somewhere where it shouldn't be.

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Julius999
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posted 01-16-16 03:21 PM CT (US) 5 / 10

If it's the second scenario of Ulio, I imagine that the object causing the issue is a missile by a blacksmith in the middle of the map which is included for its sound effect. You can probably remove it or have it be a cow without any real problems.

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Popeychops
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posted 01-16-16 03:33 PM CT (US) 6 / 10

This is... wow.

Thanks for the detail, guys. This is the frustrating result of what happens when you naively edit poor code :/

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posted 01-16-16 03:41 PM CT (US) 7 / 10

I got something similar for simply trying out AK's new units without having AOF selected. HD is a disaster.

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gag2000
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posted 01-16-16 10:10 PM CT (US) 8 / 10

you pay money to get more limitations in your game (its a bit sad),
also dat modding at all is currently near impossible due the new "unknown to DLC system" limitation.

AoC Modifications:
- Queuing Researches
- Previews of Buttons
- Conquerors Shadow Fix

HockeySam18
D�nadan

posted 01-17-16 10:07 AM CT (US) 9 / 10

Yup, pretty accurate on all fronts

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Elder Terrier
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posted 01-17-16 12:24 PM CT (US) 10 / 10

This is kind of why I'm glad I don't have a Steam account.

I mean, don't get me wrong. The new graphics are good - very good, actually, and some of the features look nice, but I'm going to stick to using my 14-year-old CD. It's more solid, it's more stable, and if what I've read is any indication, it's easier to work with.

Just making my deposit to the 2-Cent Machine.