As the year 2014 drew to a close, the international community reflected on the recent events that had rocked the United Nations from pillar to post. In the eyes of some, the UN had faded into irrelevance, and to others it was in dire need of reform. But what little sway it held left would be played out between the delegates as they struggled to exert their diplomatic muscle.

It is now Night.
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After a long wait, the time for deliberation had ended. The pieces were set out on the chessboard, and the players were all ready. Diplomats scrambled between nations, forging hasty alliances, establishing relations, and making threats.

It is now 2015 (Day).

[This message has been edited by Popeychops (edited 11-18-2014 @ 09:30 AM).]

Vote: Dead_End

Why exactly are we voting Dead_End? Is this just random pressure or a legitimate reason?

I'm wondering if we aren't dealing with a cult, if there isn't any kills last night. That would make sense in a diplomacy situation, and with no kills, although obviously with Popey we'll probably have day kills.

if the new player is voting D_E off the bat in his first game, I would assume it's for either a very legitimate reason or extremely dumb scum play.

Erskine, clarify your reasoning.

Vote Count:

Resolution Condemning Dead_End: 1 (Erskine Ravel)

7 Votes are required to lynch.

I'd like to know the reasoning behind this apparently random vote.

Yes, Erskine, clrify your vote on D_E. It seems to come out of nowhere since you didn't give any reason for that at all.

Why do we exactly need to know his reasoning? If he's a cop, he doesn't need to tell, and if it's just random pressure, then most games start with someone making a random pressure vote.

I think D_E could claim regardless on the basis of random pressure to start the day.

We also need to do the miller/survivor claim list. I'm neither.

Checking in.

We do need reasoning. This could indeed be a dumb scum move to create early tension.

I'm not a miller, nor a survivor.

Erskine, voting immediately after the day starts is very bad play, regardless of your role. Especially when you don't even explain why you're voting. I'm not going to judge you based on that, since this is your first time playing, but please either unvote or explain why you're voting.


Popey, I assume we will be notified of failed kill attempts in this game, correct?

If this is true, then there's four possibilities;

1. The mafia cannot kill, or they cannot kill yet.

2. The mafia employs poison or something to that effect to kill players, in which case we'll know tomorrow.

3. The mafia decided, for whatever reason, not to kill anybody. Perhaps there's special rules on killing in this game, or they're restricted in who or when they can kill. Just throwing the possibility out there.

4. There is no mafia.

My money is on either situation one or two. They probably rely heavily on misinformation in that case.

In case four, there's probably something like a cult, as Excelsior suggested.


Oh, and I'm neither miller nor survivor.

I highly doubt Erskine Ravel is scum, he's either A. testing out his vote like anyone who plays mafia for the first time does, or B. has some information. Let's not over react, let's just get a clarifying post from him.

and yeah, neither.

Why do we exactly need to know his reasoning?

Well, as other people pointed out, it could be random pressure or very bad scum play, I'd like to hear more this.

Also, neither.

I'd like to hear more on this.

Fixed.

I suspect Erskine is voting out of randomness and because it's his first game. I'd still like him to explain himself though.

and yeah, neither.

Oh, yeah, I forgot he's new to the game, I just looked up the Sign-ups and he mentioned that there, so yeah.

Erskine should unvote. I absolutely don't suspect him because of his vote, since I feel like he still needs to get the hang of this game. Although if there is a paticular reason behind that vote, I would be very interested to hear it.

The fact that noone died tonight could very well mean that there's a cult instead of a mafia. I doubt there'll be any serial killers like in Popey's last game, and I sure hope there is noone with the ability to daykill.

On the subject of millers and survivors, I'm neither.

Quoted from Excelsior:

Why do we exactly need to know his reasoning? If he's a cop, he doesn't need to tell, and if it's just random pressure, then most games start with someone making a random pressure vote.

Wh-hat? You know, you can't just bandwagon on someone because of one persons random vote and assume said person is a cop.
Random pressure doesn't require anyone to vote. Stating that the person should claim is enough to get things going.

Speaking of random pressure, random.org has chosen 7, which would be Mithril. A roleclaim should do. Of course, I won't enforce this should you or others dislike the idea, but I think we all agree here that this would help get this rolling.

I meant (quite clearly) that I didn't think we needed to know his reasoning if we were going to view it from a random pressure point-of-view.

I personally would rather random pressure Dead_End at this point, for two reasons. One, random pressure is just as good on D_E as Mithril, and, more importantly, if Erskine is the cop, then I want the town to cover his tracks by asking D_E to claim.

Speaking of random pressure, random.org has chosen 7, which would be Mithril. A roleclaim should do. Of course, I won't enforce this should you or others dislike the idea, but I think we all agree here that this would help get this rolling.

Let's not start like that. First, let's make some observations.

1. This game appears to be flavor dependent. if we keep that in mind, name climbs might be worth while.

2. This takes place now, as 2014 is drawing to a close. So let's consider world events taking place now.

3. With no kills and no failed kills, we must assume there is another mechanic used to remove players from the game.

4. Following that logic, we can either look at a cult without a kill, a poisoner (if there is a kill tonight this is likely) or something more exotic, like turning people into dreaming gods or tree stumps.

5. Going back to current events, I suspect Russia will be an antagonist, or some middle eastern countries + ISIS

I think everyone should go around and vote for the person above them in the OP so we know the voting properties, and maybe a flavor/name claim.

I declare that my country's media is under external control, so I cannot, by the rules of this game, claim my role mechanic.

I advise you to allow me to claim my country name, to give a few hints, especially looking at the current affairs of the real world.

I hold vital information against the mafia that I cannot reveal without the fulfillment of certain conditions.

I advise you to allow me to claim my country name

Okay. Go!

Popey, I assume we will be notified of failed kill attempts in this game, correct?

All kill attempts will be noted in the thread.

Okay. Go!

OK, I was just confirming that so that I don't get in trouble for spontaneous claims.

I'm Ukraine.

How would that fit in with the external control of your media?