The Avenger is a Mythic Age Egyptian Myth Unit which you have access to through Horus. It has the Body of a man, and head of a Hawk, and is considerably larger than human soldiers. Armed with two knives, they have a melee attack, as well as a Special Recharging Whirlwind Attack… Avenger vs. 2 Champion Hoplites Avenger vs. 3 champion hoplites Avenger vs. 3 Champion Hypaspists Avenger vs. 4 Champion Toxetes Avenger vs. 5 Anubites Avenger vs. Villager 2 Avengers vs. 6 Champion Hoplites 2 Avengers vs. 2 Chimerae 2 Avengers vs. 6 Champion Hypaspists VS HUMAN SOLDIERS Greek- As shown in the tests, Avengers are relatively ineffective vs. Hoplites. They are a bit better against hypaspists, but are still beaten rather easily. In the ingame help (which is often an innacurate thing to play by), it says that Avengers should be countered by archers. Vs. Greek, Avengers can infact slaughter archers. Take an avenger into a group of low HP toxotes and let 'er rip. As you can see from the tests, Avengers kill 4 toxotes with ease, and have over half their HP left. And 2 can beat 8 toxotes even worse. But an Avenger is beaten by 4 Hoplites. This proves that Avenegers are only good vs poorly armored units. Just make sure that the toxotes are focusing fire on something else, such as war elephants, because Avengers have poor pierce armor. Just watch out for heroes, particularly Polyphemus, Perseus and Bellerophon. Atlantean- Avengers are good vs. Atlantean. Nothing stands out in particular. Heroes are not a huge threat, however arcus and turma heroes are potentially dangerous espeically with avenger's low pierce armor. Just make sure you have slingers to help out in that situation. Egyptian- Avengers tear apart weak Eggy soldiers, i mean they absolutely mow them down. The problem is priests. They will kill Avengers with ease. So only make Avengers if youre sure he's not massing priests. Norse- OK vs. Norse too, of course hersirs are something to worry about, but just have CA's pick them off. Also watch out for Jarls. Avengers are probably not the best option vs. Norse VS MYTH UNITS Greek- Not great vs. greekl myth units. Chimerae beat them (barely), and Medusae beat them with stone gaze. However, they do beat Colossi. Atlantean- Great for killing automatons and weak stuff like that. But watch out for lamps, you dont want your own avenger suddenly twirling on your own guys. Egyptian- Good vs Egyptian, petsuchos slaughter avengers though. Norse- Avengers mow down Norse MU's but their jarls and hersirs are too deadly. Its a risk, but sometimes its worth it. Avengers will brutalize Fire Giants. VS BUILDINGS Thnx for reading, i hope you liked my guide [This message has been edited by SilverOsirisAOM (edited 03-21-2004 @ 01:11 PM).]
Population Cost: 4
Training Time: 24 Seconds
Hitpoints: 600
Hack Armor: 60
Pierce Armor: 40
Crush Armor: 80
Speed: 5.30
Line of Sight: 18
Special Whirlwind Attack Recharge Time: 10 Seconds
Special Whirlwind Attack Range: Relatively Short, about a human-soldier’s-length
Medusa Stone Gaze
Frost Giant Freeze Attack
Lampades Psycho Attack
Argus Acid Kill
Polyphemus Gore
Minotaur Gore
Mummy Minion Infestation
Centaur Accurate Shot
Chiron Accurate Shot
Kastor Gore
Chimera Flame Attack
Satyr Multiple Spear Throw
Avenger vs. 1 champion hoplite
Avenger is left with 541 HP. It uses its Special Twirl Attack 2 times.
That’s 59 total damage by the hoplite.
Avenger is left with 429 HP. It uses its special Twirl Attack 3 times.
That’s 80.5 total damage per hoplite.
Avenger is left with 277 HP. It uses its Special Twirl Attack 4 times.
That’s 111 total damage per hoplite
Avenger has 436 HP left. Strangely, its twirl does nearly twice the amont of damage to adjacent hyps then hoplites. It may have something to do with range.
Avenger is left with 375 HP left. It twirls 3 times. So far, this is the most positive test result.
Avenger vs. Fire Giant
Avenger wins with 128 HP left. It twirls 2 times. Now thats ownage.
Avenger vs. Chimera
Avenger barely, just barely dies. Chimera is left with 10 out of its 800 HP. Very close match.
Ganging up is not fair, is it? 4 Anubites survive, all about half injured. Avenger does not do well when ganged up on.
Avenger kills the villager in 3 seconds. It uses its Twirl Attack and regular attack once.
Both Avengers are left, one with 293 HP, one with 294 HP. They both Twirl 3 times.
1 Chimera is left with 70 HP.
Both Avengers survive. One has 405 HP the other has 525 HP. They each twirl 3 times.
2 Avengers vs. 8 Champion Toxotes
One Avenger is untouched, the other has 238 HP left.
2 Avengers vs. 5 anubites
One Avenger has 491 HP left, the other has 46 HP left. Avengers are good for taking out masses of weak myth units.
ANALYSIS
It only takes 4 Champion Hoplites to kill an Avenger. Because of their high hitpoints and armor, Hoplites can withstand the Avenger's attacks without being torn to shreds. On the other hand, weak Egyptian infantry make a really tasty Target for our Hawk-Headed friend. The results for fighting the Chimera were astounding. The Avenger died, but the Chimera had only 10 out of its 800 HP left. Both have 3x bonus damage vs. MUs, Chimeras have quite a bit better hitpoints (Chimera has 800, Avenger has 600) and avenger has considerably better attack (Chimera has 20, Avenger has 28). However, the Avenger totally anihalaited (i cant spell that word) the Fire Giant.
Also, Avengers slaughter anubites and other weak myth units because of thier poor armor. If ganged up on however, Avengers will be made quick work of by swarms of anubites, prometheans, etc. as shown in the single Avenger's test vs. 5 anubites. If you keep Avengers in groups of 2-5, all that twirling will add up and you will win.
When avenger fought 5 hoplites (i didnt put the result in the test), he did his whirlwind attack 6 times, which brought the two hoplites that he didnt melee attack down to 110 HP. Thats a loss of 55 hitpoints for each, approximnately 9 damage per twirl. But they have 52% hack armor, so, 18 damage per twirl.
But when he fought 1 ulfsark with 0% hack armor (i used modify protounit trigger), the Avenger did 70 damage. So i think that the unit he is directly attacking gets 70, while adjacent units get 18-30 or so.
Also, hoplites are sort of ranged, if you notice. I mean, they dont come up as close as other units to attack.
Hypaspists, which have the exact same armor as hoplites, recieved MUCH MORE damage than hoplites from the Avenger's twirl. They were injured 15 HP while Hoplites were only injured 9.
1 Avenger beats 4 Toxotes, bbut whats more is the fact that 2 Avengers can beat 8 even more badly.
Avengers maybe a little on the expensive side in terms of favor. 30 is a lot, although if you have your pharoah empower the temple to gods it will come much faster. The food cost is excellent however, and its a relief not to have to pay gold for a good Egyptian myth unit. They also have a phenominal recharge time (10 seconds) in fact they use it twice to kill a champion hoplite.
The most positive results, however were vs a villager!!!! Avengers kill a villager in 3 seconds, using their whirlwind once and regular knife attack once. This is amazing, and makes Avengers possibly one of the best villager killing units in the game.
Lastly, Avengers are slightly massable. They are expensive, but very deadly in groups of 3 or 4 or more
Use medium-sized groups of Avengers to take out weak Myth units and human units. The special whirlwind attack alone from 5 Avengers will kill most human units instantly.
Avengers do about 20 damage to buildings once you factor in standard building armor. This is fairly good, but because of their low pierce armor, i would not suggest using them against fortresses. However, they are good for taking out lone towers.
So overall, id say Avengers are best for villager killing, and myth unit hunting. And of course vs weak infantry and archers with distracted fire.
Aveners are ONLY good against poorly armored units (40 hack armor and under). This is why they will brutalize Eggy troops, as well as Greek Toxotes.
Use groups of them to kill weak myth units.
BTW, use Avengers with Eclipse, their speed is astronomical. Have a bunch of them raiding during Eclipse and you will kill every last enemy villager
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