LOL
Looks awesome, love the monkey bomb!

Nice showcase Short and sweet, and to the point.

However you could have atleast hid the player scores in the screenshots

This is a nice scen (i've playtested), good ideas and such. However the jungle is a little too crowded and game pace is pretty slow (especially while waiting for the damned behemoths to join you ).

[This message has been edited by RiderOfEternity (edited 10-07-2005 @ 04:40 PM).]

yeah, good game, but a little slow. Looking good though, Arch and Shrink

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Looks amazing, can't wait to play it!

This looks more than awesome.

Sounds very, very promising. Looks amazing too.

It's only slow if you play it slow.

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. The game is literally just about finished. If we can sort out a problem, we could release it in seconds.

Well...Does it lag a bit? Even if so these pics make this project look very promising.

[This message has been edited by Sandro The Wicke (edited 10-08-2005 @ 09:08 AM).]

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We wanted the screenshots to reflect the actual gameplay - no fancy camera angles or custom lightings, just the pure game. At least you can see that we were having fun versus computer players and eachother!

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Not one bit! And the file size is fully acceptable for ESO standards.

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I disagree, all the interface etc clogs up the screen so you can't see what's going on that well... therefore not being able to see the fun. However, GPs do play a unique roll in this scen so I guess leaving UI there is ok

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Since when did I do that? :O

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Amazingly, it doesn't!

[This message has been edited by RiderOfEternity (edited 10-08-2005 @ 02:25 PM).]

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Since when did I say you did? Most people however tend to post camera-angled screenshots in their showcases.

Which, IMO, makes the screens more attractive (I actually always take screens the normal way, but only because I'm too lazy to do a fancy camera angle).

I love how Arch always tries to project the whole 'I'm so noble' designer image by comparing himself to other designers, depending on the circumstances...

(Like showing how noble he is by showing straight forward screens than the customized ones like, say, Nodgene's PEH).

Ah well.

Guardian, we didn't finish the thread with: Oh, btw, as you can see, we made all our screens look like the actual game, so you know what you're getting. Unlike what some people do.

We didn't do that at all.
Instead, it was brought up why we take them the way we do, and Arch explained it: We simply prefer taking screenshots of what the game will look like when you play it. We're advertising a scenario, and we want people to know what they're getting, rather than letting them think it is something different.

Exactly the same as what Ensemble Studios do, and what they said they do. They even game the same reasoning.

What is wrong with that? It is just what we respect personally more.

Sure, other people might do it different (yeah, Nodgene's had that bright lighting, which might be misleading, and LFS ones usually have that funky black border), but that is completely irrelevant to what we prefer.

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot you advertise your scenarios months or years in advance with ridiculous Photoshop logos usually involving stolen art.

[This message has been edited by Shrink (edited 10-08-2005 @ 06:24 PM).]

Anyway, back on subject. Do you think you could make the tutorial cinematic a little shorter? Or maybe even cut it out I mean I know Tactical had one, but I kinda regret that now because it does steer you away from hosting it with random ESOers because it means you have to watch it too.

If you get me.

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Ofcourse Don't be so bitter just because you're scenarios hardly get noticed. If you want more attention, make more previews...rather than trolling me for doing so myself.

Which is what you're doing now. I commend you for that.

[This message has been edited by Lord Gaurdian (edited 10-08-2005 @ 07:44 PM).]

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We discussed this. This scenario is not aimed at any random ESOers. I couldn't care less if no single ESO player ever plays this scenario, because it is not aimed for that.
No way was it ever aimed towards random ESOers.
It was aimed to be played with friends who actually understand strategy, tactics and suchlike.
The tutorial is an optional addition in case you don't want to explain everything to your friends beforehand.

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Alas, I am not. I simply find you inexplicably irritating.

I mostly make scenarios because I enjoy playing them myself.
For example, recently, I've become rather insecure over Heroines, and if it wasn't for Arch, and I had made it as it is now without him (impossible), I doubt I upload it for download.
I only make things because I enjoy playing them. Just the other day I played Uprising through. Strangely enough, I actually still find it fun. I don't mind if nobody else plays it. Not really.

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This is a single showcase thread. If we'd've moved a little quicker, it would have been uploaded a couple of hours ago.
We have a bunch of previews for the other scenario, but they're more teaser-y, and testing out different forms of advertisement to see the reaction.

Furthermore, what I said (and you quoted in your most recent reply) wasn't meant in the way you took it. It was meant to say: You do things this way, so you probably don't understand my view (that is: "We simply prefer taking screenshots of what the game will look like when you play it. We're advertising a scenario, and we want people to know what they're getting, rather than letting them think it is something different.") as you do things differently.
Underneath that message was utter writhing distaste for the way you do it.

[This message has been edited by Shrink (edited 10-08-2005 @ 08:05 PM).]

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Where exactly did I say I condemned people who show camera-angled screenshots? Apparently you find it noble to show player scores on screenshots. You're weird.

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If I'm not mistaken, Uprising has a third of the amount of downloads of your average scenario, has a higher mark than your average, and this with only 1% of the advertising you do. And now you say that Shrink's scenarios hardly get noticed? You're weird.

Thanks all for your positive comments! The game will be released tomorrow

Tomorrow eh? Good stuff

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Nah, I'm all for honestly. It was done by modifying the ambient lighting in-game, so not photoshoped or gimped.
One of riders bright ideas.

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You know that is just irrelivant :P Plus stealing others art is both morally and artistically wrong.

Guardian, you're like an angry and intolerant old woman, you nit pick far too much!

[This message has been edited by Nodgene (edited 10-09-2005 @ 12:55 PM).]

Ofcourse

lol.

great showcase
out of curiosity: is possible to set an alliance between the human players to fight together the comps?
btw: but those original showcases that appeared some time ago in this forum belonged to this project?

Thanks Oscar!

It is basically a map that suits free for all gaming - which means that every other team setting is also possible! With playtesting, Shrink and I had a terrible amount of fun beating the computer players (which use a combination of scripted and triggered AI).

Heroines is a scenario that can also very well be played single player (either through ESO and setting all other players as comps, or through main menu-->singleplayer-->load scenario). So the description "multiplayer scenario" isn't entirely right

The other showcases, or teasers more like, are from another project, of which the release date is still unknown.

EDIT: Which reminds me, we've gotta upload all those teaser screenies to a new server, now that the old one is abandoned...

[This message has been edited by Archaeopterix (edited 10-10-2005 @ 09:53 AM).]

There is something I find Extremely annoying when people advertise their scenarios in the same way that people would advertise a game *coughguardiancough*. It just seems so arrogant.

Good stuff dudes!

Again you guys found a nice way to create this showcase...Good job !

Keep it going guys

Best regards,

The Vandhaal