Hmmm... I haven't had time to test this yet, but if it works the way that you described it, this could be a major find. If this works with upgrades such as Mason, I assume it would work with all upgrades, including ones that increase such attributes as attack, LOS, and armor.

This could possibly be the answer to some of the unit-editing problems, if it works as you described it.

Another bug turned for the benefic of scenario designers

This could be a work-around - i haven't tested it - but it makes sence.
Good find

Yes, I tried it in my blood (that I will post in a couple of days) and it made my buildings 8000 HPs. I used mason every 1 second, and stopped it at 150 seconds.

Wow...that's an awesome idea!

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But here's something I thought of that makes it even more flexible: have one "dummy" side get the hoplite upgrades. Then change the hoplite to the side that you want it on. Then you can have both an uber hoplite and still include regular hoplites!

I'm not sure that would work...

Can't you just put raise unit HP or ATTACK to an incredible value or something in second one like in AoK? (i still haven't messed around with triggers)

Talon Karrde. Yes that works, I've tried that.

Coolcat. The whole problem is, that AOM doesn't have a trigger that will do this. Othwerwise of course this would not be needed.

jwj. That a great idea!

Heh, I actually wanted to try this once but I thought it would never work. Great find!

Apart from Masons and medium upgrades, you can also use this with myth techs targetting specific units and relic techs.

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I tested this and it is amazing. Here's what I did, using relic techs, myth techs, etc:

- Have your favor grow constantly (to 100 all the time)
- Made an Arkantos with very high HP, very high attack, and almost infinite speed (he could essentially teleport anywhere on the map that is pathable from his position - you should see this guy in battle)
- Made a hoplite with infinite LOS
- Made units with 99% of each type of armor
- Made a medusa and minotaur that used their special attacks continuously (no regular attacks at all)

Leetness!

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Amazing! Are there any lower unit HP techs lol

No, but someone made a custom trigger that allows you to edit unit HP. However, it can only their current HP, not max HP. So it's essentially a heal/damage trigger.

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that someone is called Lamir

This should be added to the FAQ.

Yup this should be in the FAQ.

BTW I think (not sure) that you can remove the effects you want by setting the tech inactive at some point later in the scenario.

I need help!

I made a trigger like this:

Trigger 1
Active
Looped

Condition
Timer ms: 200

Effect
Set Tech Status - <player 1> - Olympic Parentage

Then I made a trigger to disable it, and my hero kept getting more heath. What could be causing the problem?

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did you disable the trigger or disable the tech status?

I tried both.

Mojo, get on ESO

Someone help me!

me mojo and pw_darkknight are making some cool AOM multiplayer scns
mojo made 2
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Awesome discovery, Mike! Thanks for sharing it with us =).

Mojo,

A looping trigger cannot be disabled by simply use the Disable effect. The only way to disable an active, looping trigger is by turning off its condition. (If it doesn’t have a condition, then you must create one.)

For example: let’s say a looping trigger creates Heaven Light over a temple. You now want to stop the light. The only way to stop the trigger is by removing the condition.

Since this trigger doesn’t have one, you have to create one. Let’s have a priest in area as the condition.

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When you want the trigger to stop, remove the priest – it will effectively stop the trigger from firing. (After that, you might also want to completely turn off the active trigger by using the Disable trigger effect. Only then will it work =))

Thanks so much Alex! I'm so happy now!

Yeah, Merry X'mas to you . Happy holidays, everyone!

Whoa! Great find Mike. Tried out your Magic Mats blood too-loved it!

I still have a problem with this system in my newest scenario (going to be released after I can find some testers).

It has a trigger so that it changes the final bosses HP, It's supposed to go up to 2000 and something but it only goes to 627. While I can live with that I want the boss to have a lot of heath.

The problem is when in the editor I test as player 5 it goes up to 2000+, but when I play it in load scenario it only goes to 627.

Maybe someone can check this out for me?
Email: mojo14@hotmail.com

[This message has been edited by Mojo14 (edited 12-29-2002 @ 07:56 PM).]

Mojo,

Make sure all your triggers are set as High priority. Normal priority or lower will not fire the trigger right on time. (Triggers with Timer condition only work accurately if the priority is High).

Try that and see if it corrects the problem.

If that doesn't help, then what I would do is -- instead of using the looping to research the tech several times -- I would create a non-looping trigger, and have *several* of the effect Set Tech Status, so the tech would be researched multiple times.

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This requires a little more work, but if you really want it to be accurate, then you might want to do it this way.

I noticed that 200 ms is not enough when there are lags. Haven;t tried high priority, but what you can do is make a timer with 1 second. That will always fire accurately. And then you can just disable the trigger.

It still will not do it completely accurately because when you load the scenario online, there is lag.
But if you do it every 1 second delay, then most of the time, it will work.
In My blood, I have temples and the HPs of the temples varies between about 7,000 and 10,000 HPs. But all the players will always have the same HP. It will just change a bit every time you load the scenario.