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posted 27 September 2003 09:05 PM EDT (US)   
K these are in no order at all.. just the way I found em

Hillforts + 50 wood and gold cost.
Walking Woods have lost 50hp each.
Raiding Cavalry gain 5% hack armour.
Ulfsarks gain +5% pierce armour.
Mountain Giants get +5 hack attack, + 25% hack armour and +10% pierce.
Nidhogg receives +200hp, +5% pierce armour.
Krakens lose 100hp and cost 2 favour less.
Fire giants lose 7 favour cost.
Fenrir Wolves lose 30% pierce and now have to be massed in 10 instead of 5 to reach maximum speed/attack.
Valkyries lose 15% pierce and gain 5% hack.
Throwing Axeman Lose 5% hack armour.
Frost Giants cost 3 less favour.
Thundering hooves costs +5 favour.
Hersirs get +1 hack attack.
Mith breastplate is 50 gold more.
Trolls costs 10 wood more, 1 less pop slot.
Battle boar costs 3 favour less.
Portable ram loses 35hp.
Ballista gains 10% pierce armour.
+100 food cost of tc.
Docks fire arrows when fishing ships inside.

:EDIT: goodbaby pointed out to me that Raiding Cav's do not lose 1 hack attack, I musta mixed something up...

:EDIT: another wrong thing nidhogg doesn"t get +10% hack armour

Btw... you get your myth unit for the God you chose free of charge at age of advance.. same with all civs. And yes, that means BOTH mu's on land AND sea ( So no, Njord will be very popular on water if the battle is still going on.....

And that's all I've noticed so far... if you have any specific queries about a unit or god, plz ask and I'll check it out.

[This message has been edited by Pipalonias (edited 09-29-2003 @ 09:35 PM).]

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posted 27 September 2003 09:07 PM EDT (US)     1 / 55  
Nice, nice, nice! We're chattin on MSN now, you're telling me other stuff, lol pip.

[This message has been edited by Einstein_006 (edited 09-27-2003 @ 09:11 PM).]

posted 27 September 2003 09:15 PM EDT (US)     2 / 55  
We are sitting in front of our computers. We are typing .
Sorry

Could you post a trancript so we can know the other stuff too?

posted 27 September 2003 09:39 PM EDT (US)     3 / 55  
Yes I deffinitely like the norse changes they are cool when I play em. Another nice addition to all civs (im not sure eggy) TC's cost food now

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posted 27 September 2003 09:52 PM EDT (US)     4 / 55  
Lol I completely missed that. Very odd
posted 27 September 2003 10:14 PM EDT (US)     5 / 55  
RC gain 5% hack, TA lose 5% hack. wth. Are you sure you didn't get these backwards

My favorite civ, Thor, is going to be substancially weaker by the looks of it.


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posted 27 September 2003 10:53 PM EDT (US)     6 / 55  
Pipalonias how do you know these changes? I'm very suspicious 'Titans' isn't even released in Australia yet. Me thinks you are full of it, prove me otherwise.
posted 27 September 2003 11:19 PM EDT (US)     7 / 55  
excellent! Good job! This is what we all wanted to know. Not about those boring atlantians! :-D

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posted 27 September 2003 11:31 PM EDT (US)     8 / 55  
Do changes to greek!
posted 27 September 2003 11:40 PM EDT (US)     9 / 55  
YES plz i'm with OutThere^ i'v been waiting for your Greek post for a wile!!!

[This message has been edited by Shaduf (edited 09-27-2003 @ 11:52 PM).]

posted 27 September 2003 11:44 PM EDT (US)     10 / 55  
Let's see - he posted this 2.5 hours ago, and you expect him to drum up a reasonably complete list of Greek changes? Give him a break.

Anyway, as far as I can tell, the changes all look reasonable - many things which ES should've done long ago. I'm especially happy that the hill fort cost is going up a bit, as Norse hill forts were just way too cheap and good compared to migdols and fortresses. Less spamming shooting buildings = good.

posted 27 September 2003 11:49 PM EDT (US)     11 / 55  
He posted Changes to Eggys 45 mins later.
posted 28 September 2003 00:51 AM EDT (US)     12 / 55  
*takes deep breath* *exhales*

*doesn't work*

WHAT IN THE BLUE HE... HECK IS GOIN ON!!!

rc will now own hipps EVEN MORE

and tax, an already nerfed-for-no-reason unit is nerfed some more!!!

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!

ARRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!

(one positive is that hillfort spamming will be reduced, which is a nice change)

fh

posted 28 September 2003 01:02 AM EDT (US)     13 / 55  
im agree with fh.

RC do own hipps now...i would like to see hack armour reduced before attack is...but oh well. we will see how much -1 attack affects them. guess it is too early to say

i like the cheaper MU's and costly hillforts...
i guess im happy with how this looks, it will take a week to see how it really benifits everyone.

posted 28 September 2003 01:09 AM EDT (US)     14 / 55  
RC's are getting a 33% increase in hack armor, but only a 12.5% reduction in attack to balance that..? Hmmm. I'd be inclined to think ES know what they're doing, but that still sounds pretty screwy.

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posted 28 September 2003 01:18 AM EDT (US)     15 / 55  
Yay, I would normally freak out because raiding cavarly gets a hack armor increase, but since camels are getting a boosts I don't mind. Well done ES

Btw, why the nerf to throwing axemen?, well, fine by me, axemen will own them even more.


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posted 28 September 2003 01:42 AM EDT (US)     16 / 55  
Maybe rc are stronger because almost everything else has been nerfed

*starts practicing with Isis*


Everyone got AIDS and shit
posted 28 September 2003 01:46 AM EDT (US)     17 / 55  
Uhh yeah.. wierd changes.. was at work for 2 hours so I kinda couldn't do Greeks.... I'd expect hippikons to get some beefing up though... give me time

As For Myth_of_ages not believing me...
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[This message has been edited by Pipalonias (edited 09-28-2003 @ 02:05 AM).]

posted 28 September 2003 02:53 AM EDT (US)     18 / 55  
oh my! raiding cavalry's profile got changed!

in titans; counter archer. cavalry only good against archers


before ; cavalry. good against archers.

rc becomes a counter unit.


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posted 28 September 2003 02:57 AM EDT (US)     19 / 55  

Quote:

rc will now own hipps EVEN MORE

and tax, an already nerfed-for-no-reason unit is nerfed some more!!!

Didn't you notice:

Quote:

Raiding Cavalry gain 5% hack armour, lose 1 hack attack.

If that's correct, RC will be worse against hippikons than they've ever been in retail AoM. That change represents a severe nerf to RC. It may also be part of the reason for the further nerf of TA - or perhaps TA even got their attack back (which would be invisible except with a couple of upgrades), but RC now have more armor against them and TA less armor in turn.

posted 28 September 2003 03:04 AM EDT (US)     20 / 55  

Quote:

RC's are getting a 33% increase in hack armor, but only a 12.5% reduction in attack to balance that..? Hmmm. I'd be inclined to think ES know what they're doing, but that still sounds pretty screwy.

That's not a 33% increase in real terms - in real terms, the increase is about 6.25% in terms of hack durability. In order for the hack armor increase to "really" be 33%, it'd have to go up to about 35%.

6.25% more hack armor in return for 12.5% less attack. Seems more than fair to me. Unless ES has increased their boni, RC will now be worse against everything, but particularly archers, since they're not getting any more pierce armor.

posted 28 September 2003 03:21 AM EDT (US)     21 / 55  
wtf?/? the tA r going to really bite ass. man they suck already!!!,
posted 28 September 2003 03:54 AM EDT (US)     22 / 55  
[isert random swear here]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fenis wolves cant be uber-slow!!!!!!!!omfg

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posted 28 September 2003 03:56 AM EDT (US)     23 / 55  
heh.. they really suck atm... I got 10 and they still walked quite slow.
posted 28 September 2003 04:30 AM EDT (US)     24 / 55  
?

Nidhogg with HACK ARMOR...... I thought flying units can only be attacked by ranged units. I think Hack Armor is useless to him.


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posted 28 September 2003 04:46 AM EDT (US)     25 / 55  
ta's nerfed again????????
this stinks guys

(ESO name: Renshai)
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