SIM - Tigrans, Day 1

With the speed of the cats we move forward and collect our litter. Soon our pride shall be one and our territories will grow.

TS to King David

Thanks for setting up the game Greenmonster and good luck everyone.

wow, that was quick!

Diary of MAZ, Day 1

Ahhh, good, soon the caverns shall be covered in web and the sunlight clouded by darkness. Oh beautiful forces of evil, go forth and take that which would worship fire. Wait a second, I like Fire. Yes, but Death, in all its wisdom, is more worthy.

TS

Sam day 1,
We set forth to explore this small and crowded world.

Miz, the Goblin Queen - Day 1.

Age of poison and death begins. Small children of earth walk forth.

Muz - Orcs - Day 1

A bouguet of evil flows throughout these dark cavens,a place where my beautiful Orcs will delight in crushing skulls and grinding bones. The time of the Orcs is here.

Set forth my babies and bring me word of these dark halls.

TS

Thanks for the game GM. Good luck everyone.

BTW important question: AFAIK there is a possibility to archive an instant victory on that map by controling all six relays. How will we determine who places second/third and so on if say all players are still alive and someone wins the game by capturing relays? It seems all WL rules are designed for maps without such victory conditions?

very good question, and something I had not considered when designing the map (which was of course before the FFA games were allowed anyway). It also would not change matters for game types that do not use placement points, but use only kills or a pool. in the latter case, I would say that the victory condition is efectivly a kill of every other survivng wizard.

I'll have to think about it more, but my gut instinct is to say that for placement-gametypes, that number of kills would be the tie breaker, and for ties that can not be settled, the placement ranks that they would occupy would be averaged together, and scored accordingly.
for example, if the 6 players agreed that each wizard was worth 2 points and the following happened:

Player A - got the auto-victory
P B - nothing
P C - nothing
P D - killed by player F on day 3
P E - killed by player F on day 6
P F - killed plyer D & E

then it would score like this
PA = 7 pts for placing first
PB = tied for (2nd, 3rd, 4th)
PC = tied for (2nd, 3rd, 4th)
PD = -6 points for placent (last of 6)
PE = -5 placemnt (5th of 6)
PF = tied for (2nd, 3rd, 4th)

player F, having 2 kills, would earn 2nd place (4pts).
B&C tie for 3rd &4th, so looking at the placement points, that is 3 pts for 3rd, and -3 for 4th, which averages 0 pts; therefor they each earn 0 points for placement. now we add in the wizard kill bonus, and we get the following:

A = 7 + 6 (+2 points each for killing players B,C&F) = 13 points
B = 0 + (-2) for being killed by A = -2 points
C = 0 + (-2) for being killed by A = -2 points
D = -6 + (-2) for being killed by F = -8 points
E = -5 + (-2)for being killed by F = -7 points
F = 4 + 2(+2 for killing player d, +2 f0r killing E, -2 being killed by A = +2) = 6points

[This message has been edited by greenmonster (edited 10-12-2004 @ 09:52 AM).]

I think it's stuck between Evil Roc and Tibbs. Resend necessary?

Sorry, somehow I missed this turn.

Today we increased our gold and mana reserves.

Diary of MAZ, Day 2

Already the races begin to trip over each other. My troops stumble, some through darkness, some through daylight, oblivious all to the larger cause for which they stumble. Hopefully they'll figure it out soon enough.

TS

Muz - Day 2

Troop movement day, added a small resource to the city coffers.

TS

**I had a game restart message on starting the game.

Sam day 2,
I have no idea how I got a restart, anyway I put up a pw just in case...
Btw why's the order completely different from the auto send generated body message?

Miz, the Goblin Queen - Day 2.

Already losses... Good that goblins can be replaced easily.

Diary of MAZ, Day 3

My troops carried part of their orders out as instructed today, but didn't quite understand all of them. Ahh, they do the best they can.

TS

Late post:

We cats hear rumours of seductive catnip in these lands. Must find them... need a fix....

Sum Days 1-3

Have sent scouts out to explore the area, captured two rich mines, and now making our way underground.

Turn Sent

Maz - day 3

Orcs want to smash, Orcs want to kill, Orcs trapped in this place, Orcs not like this place.

TS

*** Another 'game restart' upon loading the game, I really don't know why this is happening?

Sam day 3,
Wandering around without purpose...

Please note!

I have had to change my e-mail address to:

ausaitis@front.ru (ausaitis(at)front(.)ru)

I have sent e-mails to everyone in the game, they will have been sent from Pasa Linko.

Sorry for the change.

Aus

Cleared a few wolves that had a taste for money. A hero joined us also. (probably wanted a fix of catnip)

Diary of MAZ, Day 4

Some of our troops paid the ultimate price because one of them did not understand his orders yesterday. No Dark Elf warrior wants to be remembered for such feebleness of mind, and so all remaining troops are exerting maximum concentration in their service to the Cause. They also hope that a hero emerges to lead them forward, for alas I myself have other business to attend to at the moment.

TS

Sum Day 4

It's dark and dank and I find I don't like the underworld all that much. Must find fresh air...

Orcs smashed, Orcs killed, Orcs found a way...

TS

Sam day 4,
We dislike scouts in our realm.

Miz, the Goblin Queen - Day 4.

Patrols spoted a lot of cats lurking around our southern tunnels. We can understand their desire to see the beauty of cave world and to test their night vision in real darkness, but they have to ask permission first. Now it's better for them to leave.

ok, we have to pick a scoring system.

here are your options:

A - 'the ante' (with placement points, wizard value based on rank)
this would mean that tibbs, king david, nerull, and ausaitis are worth 2 points each, crvjr worth 1, and evil roc worth 5. wizards lose that amount if they are killed, and who kills them gains that amount. points are also distributed according to where you finish (7, 4, 3, -3, -5, -6)

B - bounty hunter (without placement points)
- tibbs 100 (-10) = 5 pts
evil roc 191 (+91) = 12 pts
king david 100 (-10) = 5 pts
crvjr 67 (-43) = 3 pts
nerull 104 (-6) = 5 pts
ausaitis 100 (-10) = 5 pts
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662 pts total / 110 avg
this means that there are no points distributed according to where one places, and all points are determined by who you kill and if you are killed. as shown in the chart, crvjr is worth 3, evil roc is worth 12, and everyone else 5.

C - bounty hunter (as 'B' above, but WITH placement points in addition to the kill bonus)
6 player game placement points: 7 / 4 / 3 / -3 / -5 / -6
as shown in the chart, crvjr is worth 3, evil roc is worth 12, and everyone else 5.

please vote as you log your next turn (or earlier), and vote a b or c. in case of a tie, I will cast the tie breaking vote.

[This message has been edited by greenmonster (edited 06-22-2004 @ 09:48 AM).]

Diary of MAZ, Day 5

A curious war has been declared upon us. Curious, in the sense that it can't possibly come to any good for the "dragon" that declared it upon us, and no good, for I fear that she has also killed two of our troops today, with great speed both above and underground, and yet she moves so far from her capital even as she would pretend to sneak a surprise against my own. A bold tactic. What will come of it? Surely we won't accept her slaying of our troops? Of course not. Yet, we'll allow ourselves to be intrigued by her theater for the time being.

TS

PS: Jeeze, can abstain from this vote??? In truth, I haven't taken the time to try to figure out the scoring system, and would rather leave it to more mathematically-inclined minds.

If I am forced to choose, I'm afraid I'd have to do so by name only, and in that case it's a tie between "the ante" and "the bounty hunter". My enjoyment of poker says "the ante", but "the bounty hunter" sounds more like something I'd be inclined toward, and so perhaps the mathematically inclined can determine whether or not that adds up to option "C" or whether a majority of 51 percent is needed to decide the vote, in which case I guess mine would be annulled.

In any case, I won't raise an objection as to which option is democratically or theocratically chosen, though in real-life politics I of course will always speak my mind.

[This message has been edited by King David (edited 06-22-2004 @ 00:32 AM).]

choices have been clarified a bit more, for those of you not as familiar with the systems.

My vote is for whatever Evil Roc wants since he has to put the most on the line.

I think my vote would go to "The Ante".

Sorry I just want to play and will just forfeit my voting right.

'The ante' sounds ok to me, but as Tibbs said, Evil Roc has the most to loose and as this is a 'test' game its only fair that he has final say in the matter.

By the way, have I missed a turn?

[This message has been edited by Ausaitis (edited 06-23-2004 @ 05:00 AM).]

It looks like crvjr has the turn.

Sum Day 5

Exploration coninues...

Sorry so late, work's been a bear this week.

I also vote for the ANTE rules

Turn Sent

Muz

Orcs hate this place, no way out kill spiders and tiny humans, but still no way out.

TS

Sam day 5,
Putting aside our initial planning; unfortunate, but that's the way it has to be.

evil roc is having computer bproblems, but should be back this week...

Goblins, turn sent.

Diary of MAZ, Day 6

Man, not even a week has passed and this Sam wizard has her slime-spitting troops everywhere. We are a bit surprised at her insistence on invading our realm, and think that it may not be to her benefit. She is going to pay heavily for this mistake, I fear. Her armies are going to rot under my thick spider webs, and she herself will be turned into Points in just a few days time. Run Sam, Run!!!

TS