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posted 09-28-07 08:40 PM EDT (US)   

Ëkanu ti Ânumara fi Hyorta Forësaninī!...
[Welcome to Dawn of Myth Discussion!...]



Note: The Zar kingdom/region has been changed to Nelmara...

Map of the Nelmara Region (South)...


Map of the Beskaan Region (West)...


Map of the Heilan Region (East)...


Other:
Characters 1...
Characters 2...
Characters 3...
Characters 4...
Summoning Seals...
Swords & Weapons...
The Forest Sprite...



Here you can discuss anything on the topics concerning Dawn of Myth (as well as some random OT discussions...)... If you have any questions then merely post them and I shall respond to the best of my ability...

Nësimu... [Thank you...]

Kyr Nëlënar...

Arunëmarïslar Tutorial


Background: The language Arunëmarïslar, also known as new Arunian, is a newer form of Arunëmlar, also known as old Arunian. This form of the language was made by a council of language scholars around 245 U.H. It is the language of many Arunī descendants, as well as is the language of the Crunian race. It is also often used by the Berunian race.
Nouns: In Arunian, there are both regular and irregular nouns. A regular noun will end in ‘_a’ and its plural will be ‘_ī’ with the ‘ai’/ ‘ae’ sound (noted by (i) in the dictionary). An example is Lëgora (book), with its plural being Lëgorī. It should be noted that for regular nouns the plural ending of ‘_ī’ replaces the singular ending of ‘_a.’ Irregular nouns are those that do not end with ‘_a’ and the plural ‘_ī’ does not replace the ending letter; there are also a few that end in regular verb endings, but will merely be irregular nouns. An example is Barö (brother) and Äcräs (acid), with the plural of Baröī and Äcräsī. In addition, for irregular nouns, the plural ‘_ī’ uses the ‘í’ / ‘é’ sound (noted by (e) in the dictionary).
Verbs: In Arunian, there are both regular and irregular verbs. A regular verb will end in either ‘_äs,’ ‘_ës,’ ‘_ïs,’ ‘_ös,’ or ‘_üs.’ An example is Kaisös (burn). Irregular verbs are shown by not ending with ‘_äs,’ ‘_ës,’ ‘_ïs,’ ‘_ös,’ or ‘_üs.’ An example is ö (run).
Adjectives: In Arunian, adjectives are commonly shown by ending with ‘_u,’ but still may end in undefined endings. An example is Lïmbrüsu (agile) and c (bad).
Endings/Beginnings: Like Manish, Arunian has many endings for words that are used to give an extra definition (many are adverbs). To show past tense in Manish, usually a word will end in ‘_ed,’ in Arunian it ends with ‘_ka.’ Similar endings such as ‘_s’ (for plural), ‘_s’ (not for plural), ‘_ing,’ ‘_sion/tion,’ ‘_er’ (intensifier), and ‘_est’ (intensifier) are shown as ‘_ī,’ ‘_äi,’ ‘_úni,’ ‘_ira,’ ‘_ari,’ and ‘aru.’ Although not all words in Arunian will end with them, even if they would in Manish, an example is Yuclera (destruction).
Word Placement: Word placement in Arunian is pretty much exactly like the common tongue’s (Manish). Unless noted the translation of words from Arunian to Manish (or vice versa) are the same. An example is: (Manish) He read the book. (Arunëmarïslar) Ain lënäska tê lëgora. Some words are noted to be placed in a certain place in the sentence, such as Ògma (massive), which is always placed after the noun it is defining.
Numbers: When using then name of a number (such as two compared to 2) from ten and beyond the first few letters of certain numbers and then the rest of the secondary numbers. The letters used from the numbers are underlined.
1-Iina
2-Utra (Uta)
3-Fröa
4-
5-Bi
6-Luun
7-Quararta
8-Ötaru
9-Nun
10-nna
11-Ïina
12-Iiutra
13-Iifröa
14-Iizënö
15-Iibi
16-Iiluun
17-Iiquararta
18-Iiötaru
19-Iinun
20-Utaxánna
21-Utaiina
22-Utautra
50-Bixánna
99-Nunun
100-Iiyannö
101-Iiyannö Iina
111-Iiyannö Ïina
154-Iiyannö Bizënö
500-Biyannö
999-Nuyannö Nunun
1000-Iidu
1001-Iizïdu Iina
1011-Iizïdu Ïina
1111-Iizïdu Iiyannö Ïina
5000-Bizïdu
9999-Nuzïdu Nuyannö Nunun
10,000-Xázïdu
100,000-Yazïdu
1,000,000-Iimarhun


DOM Points: (Name - DOM Name(I will either approve or recommend) - Race(from story) - Rank - Points...)...

Note: If I can I will try to incorporate some of your 'character names' into my story...

Kyr - Kyr Nëlënar - Silver Dragon Crunī - Legendary Demon Slayer - 1,000,000...
Arvi - Theinïn Naior - Earth Arunī - Skilled Apprentice - 23...
The Best Guest - ??? - ??? - ??? - 2...
Anyone else who has earned at least one - - ???...

Races:

  • Human - Free...
  • Halfling - 1pt...
  • Dwarf - 3pts...
  • Half Orc - 3pts...
  • Berunī - 3pts...
  • Orc - 4pts...
  • Half Elf/Dark Elf - 4pts...
  • Uruk - 5pts...
  • Elf - 6pts...
  • Dark Elf - 6pts...
  • Half Giant - 8pts...
  • Crunī - 8pts...
  • Xerunī - 8pts...
  • Arunī - 20pts...
  • Zarunī - 20pts...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-

    [This message has been edited by Kyr Nelenar (edited 10-28-2007 @ 08:53 PM).]

  • Replies:
    posted 09-28-07 10:21 PM EDT (US)     1 / 111  
    Just a request for a tutorial, which you already said you'd be thinking about. I've been really into the whole language, and I think it'd be nice for people to learn it from the creator.

    .:|Smeagol|:.
    World in Conflict Heaven Cherub
    Battle For Middle-earth II Heaven Replay Reviewer and Ledgend

    Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness.
    Oh, I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life...
    posted 09-28-07 10:36 PM EDT (US)     2 / 111  
    I will attempt... I'm currently helping Arvi with his 15 maps for his fanfic... So it might take a while.. but then again.. I'm always overbooked with creativity .. so I'll manage...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-

    [This message has been edited by Kyr Nelenar (edited 09-28-2007 @ 10:37 PM).]

    posted 09-29-07 01:43 AM EDT (US)     3 / 111  
    I'm currently helping Arvi with his 15 maps for his fanfic
    And I'm extremely thankful for that, too.

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 09-29-07 11:34 AM EDT (US)     4 / 111  
    Arunëmarïslar's Tutorial is complete and in the main post...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 09-29-07 01:56 PM EDT (US)     5 / 111  
    Cookie for anyone who can translate the second line of my sig... It is a line from one of Ârunäth's war speeches... I really don't know why I have something of his in my sig though ...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 09-29-07 04:00 PM EDT (US)     6 / 111  
    Nice job!

    I don't think anyone is up to the level of translating, yet, though.

    .:|Smeagol|:.
    World in Conflict Heaven Cherub
    Battle For Middle-earth II Heaven Replay Reviewer and Ledgend

    Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness.
    Oh, I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life...
    posted 09-29-07 04:18 PM EDT (US)     7 / 111  
    Cookie for anyone who can translate the second line of my sig... It is a line from one of Ârunäth's war speeches... I really don't know why I have something of his in my sig though ...
    Dominate all (fiun)! Let no race surpass the Eldar!

    I couldn't find fiun or anything similar or using your rules and stuff. No endings or beginnings. I think it might mean something akin to "of them".

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!

    [This message has been edited by Arvedui (edited 09-29-2007 @ 04:18 PM).]

    posted 09-29-07 04:56 PM EDT (US)     8 / 111  
    I stand contradicted.

    .:|Smeagol|:.
    World in Conflict Heaven Cherub
    Battle For Middle-earth II Heaven Replay Reviewer and Ledgend

    Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness.
    Oh, I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life...
    posted 09-29-07 05:25 PM EDT (US)     9 / 111  
    I think it is just that under the posted dictionary it would be 'Fíun' (now 'Fiun' which is life (in general))... I just recently (two days ago...) change the 'í' symbol (making the 'e' sound) to be represented by just 'i'... And since I had updated my sig it had the 'i' instead of the now-out-of-date 'í'...

    *Gives Arvi a cookie*...

    Now for another translation: "E tê ânya fi tê Ënïsayu stëna, buhymäs bïcja!"...

    Note: Look up 'Ënïs' by itself as well as 'bu' and 'hy'...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 09-29-07 08:48 PM EDT (US)     10 / 111  
    I got a little confused over the translation of the word "Buhymäs", but I think this is what it meant:
    By the light of the East star, be gone demon!

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 09-29-07 09:13 PM EDT (US)     11 / 111  
    *Gives Arvi two cookies*...

    Good job ... Especially with 'Buhymäs' which means 'begone,' so you where right ...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 09-29-07 09:21 PM EDT (US)     12 / 111  


    Go me!

    *greedily eats cookies*

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 09-30-07 06:18 PM EDT (US)     13 / 111  
    I added the map of Heilan!... Now I just need to make Vakai'Yarïs and the areas in between...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 09-30-07 06:29 PM EDT (US)     14 / 111  
    I take it Heilan is all desert then?

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!

    [This message has been edited by Arvedui (edited 09-30-2007 @ 06:29 PM).]

    posted 09-30-07 06:56 PM EDT (US)     15 / 111  
    No, Only the Ïhai Desert is a desert. Otherwise it is much like the African savanna... Somewhat like this...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 10-01-07 07:18 PM EDT (US)     16 / 111  
    Arvi, since you have at least 1 DOM point (see bottom of main post) you can pick a 'DOM Name' (or if you want I can recommend one) and (buy) a Race (again, pick or recommend)... I can recommend a name once you have picked a race...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 10-01-07 07:47 PM EDT (US)     17 / 111  
    Here is another translation (though not originally in Arunian):

    “Iu us cudarö ti haenarös [believe] hëla tëji kallun nën öru yannöī fi whënumī [miles] ëfïn ânöra, nën këlës nybar rös tê waeö [same] aerula [sky]”-Hiran- This is worth +3 DOM pts...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 10-02-07 01:24 AM EDT (US)     18 / 111  
    It is hard to believe that even though we are hundreds of miles from God, we can standing still see the same sky.

    Or...

    It is hard to believe that even though we are hundreds of miles from God, we can still see the same sky.


    So, which is the best and most powerful of the good races?

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 10-02-07 05:20 AM EDT (US)     19 / 111  
    Opps... I guess that the posted version still has God and Home as Ânöra, and in any case, I mistyped it and it should have been Ânöla (which is Home in my Word copy)... But anyways.. +3 for Arvi!... The best of the good races are the Arunī (half Spirits)...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-

    [This message has been edited by Kyr Nelenar (edited 10-02-2007 @ 05:22 AM).]

    posted 10-02-07 05:47 AM EDT (US)     20 / 111  
    My goal is 20 points. Keep 'em coming.

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 10-02-07 05:55 AM EDT (US)     21 / 111  
    Once I get back from school... Because I have to go in about 5 minutes...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 10-02-07 04:58 PM EDT (US)     22 / 111  
    Here are some more questions:

  • Translate into Arunëmarïslar (Arunian)...
    "We go to war!" (1)...
  • Translate into Ïlädrïn (Elven)...
    "The Elf drank the water." (3)...
  • Click here... Figure out which characters make up this fusion (though there are 13 actually I only have 12 drawn, so Thinroot the Ent is a freebee ) You have 13 guesses (don't guess Thinroot, the extra is a bonus) and for each character you get right you get 1 point... (*)...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-

    [This message has been edited by Kyr Nelenar (edited 10-02-2007 @ 08:24 PM).]

  • posted 10-02-07 05:15 PM EDT (US)     23 / 111  
    Nën híö ti borlat! - We got to war!

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    posted 10-02-07 05:20 PM EDT (US)     24 / 111  
    +1... I really should change those 'í's (now just used for pronunciation purposes) to 'i's...

    _.,-=~+"^'`:Kyr Nëlënar:`'^"+~=-,._
    "Ânö Âranäsö Helara" - "Live Well Friend"
    "Ûkrënai Sëcar-lu" --- "Ûkrënai of Thirteen"
    Remember Kids: "Kyr" rhymes with fire...
    Sometimes your imagination inspires other people to use theirs.-Sir Hugh-
    posted 10-02-07 05:51 PM EDT (US)     25 / 111  
    Yes, you should.

    And where is your Ïlädrïn dictionary?

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
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