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Topic Subject: Caesar's Tribute
posted 03-25-00 19:23 ET (US)   
Hi everyone!

Anybody have any idea how Caesar calculates how much tribute he wants?

I notice that he doesn't take anything when the city's in the red. He takes 200 if the cash flow was negative for the year but assets are still positive. I don't have any idea what he does when the cash flow and the assets are positive. Sometimes, it's 700 but it goes up to 2500.

Also, when he doesn't take anything, does that tribute have to be made up in the next year?

Just wondering...

Proconsul Fortuna

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posted 03-25-00 19:31 ET (US)     1 / 7  
It matters how prosperous, populous, and large your city it. the more, the more is taken
posted 03-25-00 21:35 ET (US)     2 / 7  
Ave Fortuna,
Here is everything I can give you about tribute:

Tribute represents a tax Rome places on all provinces. It is to cover the costs of security and to repay Rome for the initial investment it made on the province. The scale of payments changes depending on the stage of the city and its ability to pay. The tribute is payed once a year.

Loss Making Cities

Population______________Tribute
0-500___________________nil
501-1000________________nil
1001-2000_______________100
2001+___________________200

Profit Making Cities

Population______________Tribute
0-500___________________50
501-1000________________150
1001-2000_______________225
2001-3000_______________300
3001-5000_______________400
5001+___________________500

Profit making cites will always pay either 25% of their profits or the above amounts, whichever is higher.

*The above figures are from the Prima Guide. If anyone has corrections then by all means, let me know.

Cheers,

C
herub
M
arcusLindicus
-----I always wanted to be someone....I guess I should have been more specific.-----


posted 03-26-00 01:04 ET (US)     3 / 7  
Marcus Lindicus,

Thanks very much The calculations make a lot of sense.
It'll be a lot easier to know in advance how much Caesar is going to take from me.

EPS_CoCreator, you were right too... I just needed specifics in this case. Always appreciate the help, though.


Proconsul Fortuna

posted 03-26-00 08:50 ET (US)     4 / 7  
Interesting..
A
ngel
J
ayhawk

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Homage to thee, Osiris, Lord of Eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy."
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posted 03-29-00 06:28 ET (US)     5 / 7  
Very useful information, indeed While on the subject, (how) does the size of the tribute influence your favour rating?
posted 03-29-00 09:38 ET (US)     6 / 7  
I don't think the amount you pay has any influence on your kingdom rating, not paying it has a rather negative influence, though.
A
ngel
J
ayhawk

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Homage to thee, Osiris, Lord of Eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy."
-- Book of the Dead (1240 BC)


posted 01-03-02 02:41 ET (US)     7 / 7  
I have just finished comparing the Prima Guide’s information (as reported by Marcus Lindicus) to my year-end financials in CBC’s ULTAC competition. If we adjust for terminology, the Prima Guide is essentially correct. Caesar uses three factors in determining tribute: year-end cash balance (before tribute), year-end net cash flow (before tribute) -- not "profit", and population. No tribute is taken if your year-end balance is negative (see year 6 in the table below), instead you suffer the "fail to pay tribute" penalties. Cities with a negative pre-tribute cash flow are assessed tribute based on their population as in the Prima Guide’s "Loss Making Cities" table (as in years 0, 3, 4, and 10). Cities with positive pre-tribute cash flows pay the greater of 25% of their pre-tribute cash flow or the minimum based on their population as indicated in the "Profit Making Cities" table (see years 2 and 13 for examples when the 25% is greater). I reran year 6 a few times: only when I ended with a positive cash balance (even if was only 6Dn) did Caesar take his tribute -- but never when I was in debt (even if only by 7Dn). In these reruns, Caesar took 200Dn if I had negative cash flow for the year and 400Dn if I had positive cash flow. In a separate test, I determined that Caesar will take tribute in the first year if you have positive cash flow.

012345678910111213
Taxes in0000669216898429534964779311417130071552917837
Trade receipts9005400702069306290527045905440578060856200403023257 905
Donated15000000000000000
Income2400540070206930695974385574 8393107441387817617170371785425742
Imports06000067210081120151 2134411203447145612883980
Wages6401461217129583920426544784664 533065938468111991210212489
Construction4306285419604062446015 726961132330443467136276431582771
Interest00000111000000
Salary 0000000000240180220180
Sundries00000000000000
Tribute0225722100 20040004005005002005005001580
Expenses494651404853712092527246 62957709104781255919491160991726821000
Net in/out flow-25462602167-190-2293192-7216842661319-18749385864742
Bal ance45471428812691398590-1315538192138264120217886530
Pre-Trib ute Net Flow-25464852889-90-2093592-72110847661819-1674143810866322
2 5% of PTNF-636121722-22-523148-180271191454-4183592711580
Populatio n6061005139018462932343445544873552870618077905096139498
Profi t (NF+Construction)176031144127387221671764-251816357056655262 370237447513

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