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Topic Subject: Pharaoh/Cleopatra Monuments Chart

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 05:56 ET (US)

Updated 11-05-2001: Introduced the Sun Temple on the Chart (I forgot it on the first version), and introduced an HTML table with the correct legend, on Post #2. Also, I have corrected Post #4. Future Updates will be reported here (Post #1).

Updated 11-06-2001: In the last version of the Chart, I have included Mastabas as needing wood, but actually they don't need it. That was already corrected. Thanks to pharaohcris for noticing this awful mistake.

Introduction:

Sometimes, when playing a mission in Pharaoh/Cleopatra, you need to build one or even more monuments to achieve the victory. I find very useful, for pre-planning purposes, to know the size of the footprint and what I need to build them.

There is a very good chart on the subject, made by Angel Reckless Rodent, on the Strategy Section of Pharaoh Heaven. Unfortunately, some of the information on the chart is wrong. It also lacks information (only on some monuments) on the amount of each good needed for completing the monument, which I find very useful and some tips on placing the monuments (particularly the Pyramid Complexes' Causeway), for beginners and general troubleshooting, as well.

What I have been trying to accomplish here is to develop a kind of chart that included all the information above. I hope that you find this chart as useful as I do.

Credits:
Most of the information here is based on the work of Angel
Reckless Rodent, plus some information obtained by myself. There
are some monuments that I have never built, particularly most the new
monuments introduced with Cleopatra, but I did read some posts on
Pharaoh Heaven's Forums, where I found some of the information/tips here.

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-07-2001 @ 02:06 AM).]

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Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 05:57 ET (US) 1 / 19

PHARAOH/CLEOPATRA MONUMENTS CHART - PAGE 2

Legend of Page 3
M	Marble *
C	Copper
G	Granite
PS	Plainstone
LS	Limestone
SS	Sandstone
B	Bricks
W	Wood **
P	Paint ***
L	Lamps ****
* Introduced with Cleopatra. Marble must be imported from a trade partner.
** Needed only by Carpenters' Guild(s).
* Introduced with Cleopatra**. Needed only by Artisans' Guild(s)
** Introduced with Cleopatra**. Lamps are transported by peasants from Work Camps to the construction site.

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-06-2001 @ 02:20 AM).]

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 12:39 ET (US) 2 / 19

**PHARAOH/CLEOPATRA MONUMENTS CHART - Page 3**
Monument	Type	Size	Materials Needed
Monument	Type	Size	M	C	G	PS	LS	SS	B	W	P	L
Abu Simbel*	-	9x21	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Alexandria's Library	-	13x14	112	3200	-	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Bent Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	-	48	168	-	-	Y	-	-
Bent Pyramid	Medium	12x12	-	-	-	216	336	-	-	Y	-	-
Brick-Core Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	-	-	192	-	4800	Y	-	-
	Medium	12x12	-	-	-	-	432	-	24000	Y	-	-
	Large	16x16	-	-	-	-	768	-	67200	Y	-	-
	Complex	20x20 **	-	-	-	-	1200	-	144400	Y	-	-
	Grand Complex	24x24 **	-	-	-	-	1728	-	264000	Y	-	-
Caesareum	-	15x15	152	-	8	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Mastaba	Small	4x10	-	-	-	-	-	-	10800	-	-	-
	Medium	6x14	-	-	-	-	-	-	24000	-	-	-
	Large	8x18	-	-	-	-	-	-	74400	-	-	-
Mausoleum	-	8x22	-	-	-	-	-	***	-	Y	-	-
Obelisk	Small ****	3x3	-	-	100	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Obelisk	Large ****	5x5	-	-	200	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Pharohs Lightouse *****	-	6x6	108	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Royal Burial Tomb ******	Small	11x20	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	Y
	Medium	14x16	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	Y
	Large	17x33	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	Y
	Grand	23x29	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	Y
Sphinx	-	6x18	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Stepped Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	-	240	-	-	-	Y	-	-
	Medium	12x12	-	-	-	672	-	-	-	Y	-	-
	Large	16x16	-	-	-	1440	-	-	-	Y	-	-
	Complex	20x20 **	-	-	-	2640	-	-	-	Y	-	-
	Grand Complex	24x24 **	-	-	-	4368	-	-	-	Y	-	-
Sun Temple *******	-	10x10 *******	-	-	-	-	-	220	-	Y	-	-
True Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	-	48	192	-	-	Y	-	-
	Medium	12x12	-	-	-	240	432	-	-	Y	-	-
	Large	16x16	-	-	-	672	768	-	-	Y	-	-
	Complex	20x20 **	-	-	-	1440	1200	-	-	Y	-	-
	Grand Complex	24x24 **	-	-	-	2640	1728	-	-	Y	-	-
* The Abu Simbel must be placed entirely over cliffs. It has a 3x3 entranceway, extending from one side of the monument, that must be placed in cleared land.
** This type of monument has a causeway (2 tiles wide) that must lead to water. Due to this, it must be placed in the West side of the River.
*** You need 240 blocks of Sandstone to place a Mausoleum, plus an additional 256 blocks of this materials to complete it.
**** The amount of Granite displayed is the amount you need to have before placing the monument. After placing it no more Granite is needed.
***** The Pharaohs Lightouse must be placed entirely over normal rocks. The monument has an 1x1 entranceway, extending from one side, that must be placed in cleared land.
****** The Royal Burial Tombs must be placed entirely over cliffs. The monument has an 1x1 entranceway, extending from one side, that must be placed in cleared land.
******* The Sun Temple has an 8x2 path extending from one side, with 3x3 entrance hall at the end of this path. The amount of Sandstone displayed is the amount you need to have before placing the Sun Temple. After that, you will need an additional 160 blocks to complete the monument.

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-06-2001 @ 01:54 PM).]

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 12:41 ET (US) 3 / 19

**PHARAOH/CLEOPATRA MONUMENTS CHART - Page 4**
Monument	Type	Size	Buildings Needed for Constrcuting
Monument	Type	Size	AG*	BG**	CG***	SG****	WC*****
Abu Simbel	-	9x21	-	-	Y	Y	-
Alexandria's Library	-	13x14	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Bent Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Bent Pyramid	Medium	12x12	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Brick-Core Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	Y	Y	Y	Y
	Medium	12x12	-	Y	Y	Y	Y
	Large	16x16	-	Y	Y	Y	Y
	Complex	20x20	-	Y	Y	Y	Y
	Grand Complex	24x24	-	Y	Y	Y	Y
Caesareum	-	15x15	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Mastaba	Small	4x10	-	Y	-	-	Y
	Medium	6x14	-	Y	-	-	Y
	Large	8x18	-	Y	-	-	Y
Mausoleum	-	8x22	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Obelisk	Small	3x3	-	-	Y	Y	-
Obelisk	Large	5x5	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Pharohs Lightouse	-	6x6	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Royal Burial Tomb	Small	11x20	Y	-	-	Y	Y
	Medium	14x16	Y	-	-	Y	Y
	Large	17x33	Y	-	-	Y	Y
	Grand	23x29	Y	-	-	Y	Y
Sphinx	-	6x18	-	-	Y	Y	-
Stepped Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Medium	12x12	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Large	16x16	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Complex	20x20 **	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Grand Complex	24x24 **	-	-	Y	Y	Y
Sun Temple	-	See Page 3	-	-	Y	Y	Y
True Pyramid	Small	8x8	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Medium	12x12	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Large	16x16	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Complex	20x20 **	-	-	Y	Y	Y
	Grand Complex	24x24 **	-	-	Y	Y	Y
* Artisans' Guild (Introduced with Cleopatra). You may need more than one building of this type.
** Bricklayers' Guild. You may need more than one building of this type.
*** Carpenters' Guild. You may need more than one building of this type.
**** Stonemason's Guild. You may need more than one building of this type.
***** Work Camp. You may need more than one building of this type.

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-05-2001 @ 09:58 AM).]

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 12:50 ET (US) 4 / 19

OK, the Chart is (finally) done!

For correctly viewing the Chart I would recomend an 1024x768 screen definition.
Again, some feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Bye,
Ben The Vizier

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-04-2001 @ 12:57 PM).]

pharaohchris
Pleb

posted 11-04-01 15:04 ET (US) 5 / 19

Very useful
iv'e been looking for a chart like this for ages
Thanks

StarKey
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor

posted 11-04-01 15:09 ET (US) 6 / 19

Thanks Ben,

I'm always amazed and truly appreciative of the efforts that CB fans exert and then willing to share with the rest of us, this is a trememdous addition to all the other charts produced by others. My only suggestion is to narrow the first three columns which might make it possible to then see the 2 missing columns on the right side when viewed at a lower resolution. I know nothing about the creation of these types of charts so maybe it's not possible. Other than that, this is a marvelous creation... thanks....you da man!!

StarKey

Rocky
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor

posted 11-04-01 17:02 ET (US) 7 / 19

Another chart for the wall !! .....

Well done Ben, great work.

The master of making easy look hard ---- What's wrong with Scooby Doo boxers? Cockfosters visitor via a stunt cannon ---- Fan of the Great Cornholio Tee shirt danceCoyote ~~ugly~~ beauty, parrott mangler & all round good egg ---- Have leather pants will travel

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-05-01 00:01 ET (US) 8 / 19

Thanks pharaohcris, StarKey and Rocky for the kind comments!

Starkey:
You could easily view and print this Chart if you Cut & Paste (Select -> Ctrl+C ->Ctrl + V) it on any WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) HTML editor (such as Microsoft FrontPage).
But, if you want, I can send you a copy of this Chart "ready-to-print" bye e-mail.

This Chart took a lot of time until it became finished. Anyway, I think the time was worth it.

Bye,
Ben The Vizier

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-05-2001 @ 00:05 AM).]

StarKey
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor

posted 11-05-01 09:20 ET (US) 9 / 19

Thanks for the offer Ben,

I'd like that if you sent me a copy, I did change the screen definition to 1024x768 as recommended, but the print is so small for these old eyes of mine. You did a great job with these charts, well worth the time spent.

StarKey

VitruviusAIA
The Architect

posted 11-05-01 11:33 ET (US) 10 / 19

Excellent work Ben The Vizier!

It is obvious that you spent a lot of time putting this all together. Well done.

Vaia

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-05-01 13:28 ET (US) 11 / 19

Hello!

StarKey:
I have already sent you the Chart. See the explanation on the body of the message.

VitruviusAIA:
Thanks for the kind comments. I was inspired by your Charts (Housing and Structures), that also are superb. They are very useful for me, for many reasons. I'm also planning to start playing on Normal level very soon, so...

Bye,
Ben The Vizier

wolfie
Pleb

posted 11-05-01 17:40 ET (US) 12 / 19

Very Good job Ben. Thanks. I should hope it makes it into the strategy section here at PH.

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-06-01 02:23 ET (US) 13 / 19

Thanks for the kind comments wolfie!

It is always good to know that our work is useful to other person.
Thanks again!

Bye,
Ben The Vizier

pharaohchris
Pleb

posted 11-06-01 02:27 ET (US) 14 / 19

oh, just thought i'd point out that Mastabas don't need wood, but u've marked it as a need reasource.
otherwise, exelent

StarKey
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor

posted 11-06-01 11:56 ET (US) 15 / 19

Charts were recieved as promised....thank you Ben

StarKey

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 11-06-01 13:41 ET (US) 16 / 19

Hello !

pharaohchris:
Thanks for noticing the mistake! I have already corrected it.

StarKey:
I noticed that I sent you the wrong-formatted files. But I have already sent you the correct version of the Chart.
Sorry by the mistake!

Bye,
Ben The Vizier

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 11-07-2001 @ 02:06 AM).]

Mindy
Pleb

posted 04-05-03 18:46 ET (US) 17 / 19

I would very much like to have printer friendly version of your momuments chart.

Ben The Vizier
Pleb

posted 04-07-03 14:23 ET (US) 18 / 19

Hi Mindy,

Sorry, but I do not have the printer-friendly version anymore. But perhaps you (or I) can do one from the tables on this topic

[This message has been edited by Ben The Vizier (edited 03-10-2022 @ 03:15 AM).]

Kite_Builder
Pleb

posted 04-09-16 09:48 ET (US) 19 / 19

there are some size-mistakes:
The Alexandria-Libarary is only 10 squares width, not 13.
The length of 14 is right.

the sun-temple is 11 squares width and 10 long.
You sayd 10x10, that is wrong.

I found an error in the game:
I made a mission with Abu Simbel and Sphinx
Both of them need no stone.
Why i hat to add some stone to my raw-materials to let them show up in my monument-list?

[This message has been edited by Kite_Builder (edited 04-09-2016 @ 11:03 AM).]

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