posted 11-15-04 05:28 PM EDT (US)
1. Decrease Elephant unit costs in Classical by 10%, and in Medieval by 5%. This will slow down assaults a bit more, and although I'd like to see Republic to be a bit more interesting, this change seems fine. I'd rather leave Despotism as is, and increase Republic COM cap to +100 instead of +50. 1. Change Despotism to 20% cheaper military research and barracks unit cost instead of 15%. 1. Change range in CEO General's radius to +2 instead of +4. This might be enough to slow them down at the start... but free Governments at the Senate are huge bonuses, especially with regards to saving Knowledge (and they get a free Scholar to boot with each University). In vanilla RoN, we all agreed Knowledge bonuses for a Nation was too powerful. It was one reason Chinese no longer have instantly built Scholars, and Greeks do not have the free Scholar for each University and the +100 Knowledge at the start (instead they get it in Classical Age). With Republic now working correctly with Democracy, I can see them surviving a bit longer and using the +3 Food, Timber, Metal, and Wealth from non-scout Barracks units. I'd suggest reducing it to +2, and also decreasing the upgrade for Barracks military down to 15% from 25%. Otherwise, I'd rather have them get a discount for Governments at the Senate instead of getting them for free, or still have them pay the Knowledge costs at the least. 1. Keep the no free SCI 1 research. The problem with the French is their healing ability in enemy territory and their UU Heavy Cavalry. The siege are eventually going to get to the enemy Cities, and the speed of movement isn't going to change much. The Lumbercamp bonus is always nice to have at +2, but it being +1 still won't impact them much. I can still see HC/HA raids with the Senate General work well, and the French HC/FA Assault, although the assault will be a bit slower, so that's good. I don't see any fix with just using XML changes for the French. 1. Change the +1 slot for WoodCutter's Camps back to +2. Most games with British fishing, they'll only have the need to build 2 Docks for 2 free fishing boats, unless it's Great Lakes (even then, it's still good to delete the Docks after the first one if there are 4-5 fish in the first lake). I never felt the need to build more than 1 or 2 Barracks with the British to spam FA/Enlightenment LI, mostly because of their economy. Another possibility is to lower their Commerce Cap bonus and don't give them 50% cheaper Taxation costs when they already receive double Taxation. 1. Return the free Fishing Boat for every new Dock. Sounds good. However, the Nubians can be monsters with the right Rare Resources (Knowledge in particular, see "Americans"). Gigi should be a big help on this one. I don't know if it can be done, but Merchants should collect 50% bonuses from rare resources 1. Keep the slightly weaker Kushite Archer vs. FA and HA. It will slow them down a little, but the Wealth from Cities is what helps them become overpowered. If not the change for +5 (1st City), +10 (2nd City), +15 Wealth for all other Cities, then slightly up the cost for UU Heavy Infantry. 1. Keep the removed free MIL 1. Ah, I misread that. I was thinking of something else. Increase it up to 75% and let the Greeks start with +20 more Knowledge (they lose out on +20 Knowledge from building completion bonus for the first University). 1. Increase Library and University discount to 75% from 66%. That is good. Would still be nice if they had a slight Wonder building bonus. If things still do not work out, increasing Timber discount on buildings to 33% wouldn't hurt. It was always the military building speed that made them overpowered. 1. Change Timber discount on non-Wonder and non-Military buildings to 33% from 25%. They still lose out on all the upgrades at the Granary. They'll have a stronger start, but I don't see any middle ground from them being either underpowered or overpowered with just Food Production changes. I'd rather leave them as is if changing to +5 becomes overpowered, though. Is an increase of the HA razing bonus able to be increased substantially, and by Age, possibly? Free CIV 1 would help them out much better by enabling an early 2nd City with the extra Food going into producing more Citizens for Food. A faster 2nd City enables faster Caravan trading, and a faster 2nd Market to build for Wealth. 1. Return the Food Production rate of Citizens and Cavalry from +5 back to +4. That is good. They had UU Heavy Infantry that were more expensive and less powerful than normal line HI, but how does this cost affect them in Ancient Age? 1. Keep the reduced costs of UU HI. That works. I always liked the thought of them moving "slower" through forests by 25%, too, but that's too much too late. As far as Enlightenment Age sniping goes, either shorten their range for sniping, or up the cost for it... or both. 1. Keep reduced line of sight for UU Scouts. 1 Free Light Ship per Docks is fine, but getting free COM 1 isn't needed, especially when they get COM research relatively cheap. If not discarding the free COM 1, then tone down the discount for further COM research. 1. Change Commerce Research to 20% cheaper from 25%. [This message has been edited by El_Capitan_ (edited 11-18-2004 @ 07:06 PM).]
2. Change Republic to +100 Commerce Cap instead of +50.
2. Change to +2 Food, Timber, Metal, and Wealth from non-scout Barracks units instead of +3.
3. Change Barracks military upgrades to 15% cheaper instead of 25%.
2. Keep the change for 15% cheaper siege costs.
3. Keep the change for 25% faster siege production and movement speed bonus.
4. Keep the -1 attack change for the Heavy Cavalry.
5. Nothing else can be done. Water all the bonuses down, but their healing in enemy territory will still pose rival nations a lot of trouble.
2. Decrease Commerce Cap bonus to 15%.
3. No longer get 50% cheaper Taxation.
2. Reduce costs of Merchants and Caravans to 25% from 50%.
3. Merchants collect 25% bonus resources from Rare Resources in friendly territory instead of 50%.
2. Change the UU HI costs to normal cost. Nation bonus will still make them 10% cheaper and produced 10% faster. If they are already at normal cost, change Nation bonus for all HI to cost 5% cheaper but still produced 10% faster.
2. Increase Knowledge start with +20 Knowledge.
2. Keep Hitpoint Bonus on buildings at 25%.
2. Give them free CIV 1 research.
3. Increase HA razing bonus by 100%.
2. Increase UU HI speed to offset weaker attack.
2. Change Enlightenment Age UU Scouts to 50% less range for sniping, and 25% longer time to complete sniping attempt.
3. Change Barracks units +10% Hit Point Bonus to +5%.
2. Change Free Light Ships per Dock to 1 free Light Ship per Dock.
3. Increase ship upgrades to 20% cheaper from 10% cheaper.
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