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Topic Subject: All Factions Mod ; step by step
posted 03 September 2006 02:08 EDT (US)   
For RTW 1.5 Vanilla

I dont know for sure about gold were it installed already patched, it is posible some files needed for this to work just are not there. I am currently working on this.

*NOTE*
Make sure your in the correct folder because some the these files are in mutiple places for different reasons leave those alone. everything after "rome - total war" will be IDENTICAL to that posted some of these files are duplicated elseware so make sure you have the right one!
ALSO
Back up ALL files before editing as a space comma period or anything else in the wrong spot will often cause CTD and it's so picky finding them can be nearly imposible it's easier to just put the oringinal back in and try again.


*STEP ONE*

--Folder:
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\preferences

*Exact folder may be different UPTO "Rome - Toatal War"
but all after that will be EXACTLY the same*

--File:
preferences.txt

This line may appear

Quote:

FIRST_TIME_PLAY:TRUE

make sure it's this

Quote:

FIRST_TIME_PLAY:FALSE


*STEP TWO*

--Folder:
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

--File:
descr_strat.txt

In default file there will be factions under "unlockable"
and "nonplayable" Just cut and paste those names under "playable" Make SURE all faction names line up, none are repeted and there are no spaces between lines until
end


start_date

it should look like this

Quote:

campaignimperial_campaign
playable
romans_julii
romans_brutii
romans_scipii
egypt
seleucid
carthage
parthia
gauls
germans
britons
greek_cities
macedon
pontus
armenia
dacia
numidia
scythia
spain
thrace
end
unlockable
end
nonplayable
romans_senate
slave
end


start_date-270 summer

the faction names are indented using TAB Not space cut and paste should carry the tab over, but if one dosnt line up, bring it so it's not indented and hit tab NOT space.

*STEP THREE

--Folder:
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data

--File:
lookup_campaign_descriptions.txt

Add this:

Quote:

IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_DESCR

*STEP FOUR*

--Folder:
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\text

--File:
campaign_descriptions.txt

Add this:

Quote:

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE}Armenia
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_DESCR}Play as the Armenians, an eastern culture

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_TITLE}Dacia
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_DESCR}play as Dacia, a barbarian culture

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_TITLE}Numidia
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_DESCR}play as numidia, a carthaginian culture with camels instead of elephants.

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_TITLE}Scythia
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_DESCR}Play as Scythia, a barbarian culture specializing in cavalry.

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_TITLE}Spain
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_DESCR}Play as Spain, a barbarian culture with carthage influences.

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_TITLE}Thrace
{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_DESCR}Play as Thrace, a Greek culture with some Barbarian type infantry.

I don't know if this makes a difference but I put this right after brittania's description so it would look like

Quote:

moat of the sea from invasion, they can gaze out towards the mainland, and plan their conquests...

{IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE}Armenia

This Dose work, qutoed sections are from my own files and dose not include SPQR or Slave factions because.
1. I have 0 intrest in playing the senate
2. I consider both those factions too touchy (ie CTD easily)

Hope that helps

Please sticky this so new players dont keep asking over and over ...... well a few less anyway

[This message has been edited by CavalryCmdr (edited 09-03-2006 @ 02:31 AM).]

Replies:
posted 03 September 2006 11:00 EDT (US)     1 / 11  
I did everything you said and still nothing. Can you give a detailed desciption of were in lookup_campain_descriptions you put this:

IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_DESCR

Because it shows in the imperial campain menu that I can play as the nonplayable factions but it just goes back to the the main menu when I click to play a nonplayable faction. Would a mess up in the second step make this happen?

[This message has been edited by jrv2005 (edited 09-03-2006 @ 11:24 AM).]

posted 03 September 2006 16:36 EDT (US)     2 / 11  
I think it must be something to do with gold.

A mistake in the desc_strat would cause the game to not load or the option to play that faction to not be there.

A mistake in lookup_campaign_descriptions.txt or campaign_descriptions.txt should cause CTD when the faction symbol is clicked. Before even clicking the play button.

to answer your question my entire lookup_campaign_descriptions.txt

Quote:

CAESER_IN_GAUL_JULII_TITLE
CAESER_IN_GAUL_JULII_DESCR
SONS_OF_MARS_JULII_TITLE
SONS_OF_MARS_JULII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_JULII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_JULII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCIPII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCIPII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRUTII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRUTII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_CARTHAGE_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_CARTHAGE_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_EGYPT_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_EGYPT_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITANNIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITANNIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAUL_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAUL_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_MACEDON_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_MACEDON_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PONTUS_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PONTUS_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_DESCR
CAESER_IN_GAUL_TITLE
SONS_OF_MARS_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PARTHIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PARTHIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
CAESER_IN_GAUL_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
CAESER_IN_GAUL_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
SONS_OF_MARS_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
SONS_OF_MARS_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_SCIPII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_SCIPII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_BRUTII_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_BRUTII_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITONS_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITONS_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAULS_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAULS_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANS_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANS_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_DESCR
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_TITLE
IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_DESCR

No spaces gaps or whatnot. If you just copy and paste this over whatever you have It would work (for that file).
The same would be true for the campaign_descriptions.txt but that file is far to large to post here.

Dose the descrition I put in for an unplayable faction show up?

Also, can you give me a list of factions you cant play?

Finaly using your original desc_strat.txt copy (using the copy under edit or ctrl-c) the name of every faction individually and look in each of the three edited files for an exact match (edit, find, ctrl-v to put the exact name as it appears in original desc_strat)
If any are not found give me that list too.

posted 03 September 2006 19:05 EDT (US)     3 / 11  
Oh sh##! Now it doesn't let me play any faction! It just goes back to the main menu whenever I try to play any campain!!! wtf!!!And to answer your question, for some factions, it says somthing like no info. I'm guessing the problem is the campain_descriptions folder. Do you know were I can copy and paste the whole campain descriptions folder with the modifications to it?

P.S. what is a CTD?

[This message has been edited by jrv2005 (edited 09-03-2006 @ 07:17 PM).]

posted 03 September 2006 20:32 EDT (US)     4 / 11  
CTD = Crash to Desktop

If there is no description for any faction you are making a mistake. Probly in
campaign_descriptions.txt

From original post copy (ctrl-c) the quote info starting with
"{IMPERIAL" and ending with "infantry. "

paste (ctrl-v) into file

I am going to quote out exactly where I put the eddited info, except
:
will indicate a blank line
#
will indicate where your cursor should be when you paste

niether : nor # will appear in original or edited text

Quote:

many into flight.\n\n
All in all, from their island home the Britons have much to feel confident about. They are a vibrant people, with a tradition of bravery in warfare and Gods who will aid and protect them. Protected by the moat of the sea from invasion, they can gaze out towards the mainland, and plan their conquests...
:
#¬********************************************************** ******************************
¬*********************************************************** *****************************
¬*
¬*THIS FILE GONE FOR LOCALISATION!!!
¬*ALL CHANGES & ADDITIONS MADE POST THE DATE SPECIFIED
¬*BELOW MUST GO UNDERNEATH THIS DIVIDER!!!
¬*
¬*
¬***** Changes made after 07/07/2004 17:15:00

Now, go back and double check descr_strat.txt
I am going to post what it should look like
except
.
will be used to put things in thier proper place, it wont be there in actual file.

Quote:

campaign.............imperial_campaign
playable
........romans_julii
........romans_brutii
........romans_scipii
........egypt
........seleucid
........carthage
........parthia
........gauls
........germans
........britons
........greek_cities
........macedon
........pontus
........armenia
........dacia
........numidia
........scythia
........spain
........thrace
end
unlockable
end
nonplayable
........romans_senate
........slave
end

........ is the length of one TAB, with your cursor at the beging of a line with a faction on it press DEL once.
the faction name should move all the way to the begining of the line,if not keep pressing DEL until it dose, then press TAB to put it back in the right spot.

also
campaign.............imperial_campaign
is two TABs so with your cursor at the end of the first campaign press DEL twice, the i should now be directly next to the n if not press DEL until it is then press TAB twice.

posted 04 September 2006 11:25 EDT (US)     5 / 11  
I put the campain descriptions modification right below were it talks about the britians. exactly were you told me. I just don't get it.Everything EXACTLY how its supposed to be. Now, to get to my main question. What is wrong with it when whenever you try to click on any faction it just brings you back to the previous menu? Derek the great or whatever has the same problem. It must have something to do with gold edit. because I have checked hundreds of times and everything is how its supposed to be!
edit: I just checked and it does say the description of the faction. So the only possible problem has to be in lookup_campain_descriptions. If there is nothn wrong with that file, than it has to be something wrong with gold edition

[This message has been edited by jrv2005 (edited 09-04-2006 @ 11:46 AM).]

posted 04 September 2006 23:23 EDT (US)     6 / 11  
Your right, it must be gold, I'd say a missing file, though it could be anyones guess.
(missing file:1.0-3 needed that 1.5 nolonger needs, gold wouldnt have because it was never a lesser version.)
http://rtw.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=3998
is a download of the desc_strat and campain_description you need, it's virtiually the same thing, but if there is an error in your desc_strat this would correct it, I am currently searching other forums to see if anyone else has had this problem with gold.
If it is a problem with gold we may be sol cause none of the people who are really familiar with modding will have gold to work with hands on (like I dont) and that will make it dificult to find a fix.
Note: I havnt actually downloaded this file as I have no use for it myself, but if it works (or even if not) let me know and I will download it just to see what your problem was as knowing this will help you with any future modding you may wish to do yourself.

Good luck and I'll keep looking (I wish I had gold, little things like this frustrate me and I need to find the answer

EDIT: I checked and copy paste the section above over what is already in the lookup_campaign_descriptions.txt works fine. Also I am begining to think (though I havnt tested yet) that this is just a reference file for the programmers and the game dosnt use it at all, I just did because it was there, and when I first encounterd the need to edit campaign_descriptions.txt (v 1.3) I was still fairly new to modding this particular game.

[This message has been edited by CavalryCmdr (edited 09-04-2006 @ 11:30 PM).]

posted 05 September 2006 05:45 EDT (US)     7 / 11  
Why don't you download one of the working mods at the download centre here? far less stress.

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posted 05 September 2006 10:30 EDT (US)     8 / 11  
So all I have to do is click download on one of these things and I'm done. I need a little more info on this.

Edit: I just realized something horrible. I accidentally perminately changed lookup_battle_descriptions and lookup_campain descriptions to be the same thing! what exactly is lookup_battle descriptions?

[This message has been edited by jrv2005 (edited 09-05-2006 @ 10:58 AM).]

posted 05 September 2006 22:50 EDT (US)     9 / 11  
I'm fairly sure the "lookup" files are reference only and not used by the program, however just in case copy/paste this over anything in lookup_battle_descriptions

Quote:

CANNAE_TITLE
CANNAE_DESCR
CARRHAE_TITLE
CARRHAE_DESCR
CYNOCEPHALAE_TITLE
CYNOCEPHALAE_DESCR
MANCETTER_TITLE
MANCETTER_DESCR
PHARSALUS_TITLE
PHARSALUS_DESCR
SPARTACUS_TITLE
SPARTACUS_DESCR
TEUTOBURGERWALD_TITLE
TEUTOBURGERWALD_DESCR
TELAMON_TITLE
TELAMON_DESCR
RAPHIA_TITLE
RAPHIA_DESCR
LAKE_TRASIMENE_TITLE
LAKE_TRASIMENE_DESCR
SYRACUSE_TITLE
SYRACUSE_DESCR
ZAMA_TITLE
ZAMA_DESCR
MAGNESIA_TITLE
MAGNESIA_DESCR
ARAUSIO_TITLE
ARAUSIO_DESCR
JUGURTHA_TITLE
JUGURTHA_DESCR
CHAERONEA_TITLE
CHAERONEA_DESCR
GERGOVIA_TITLE
GERGOVIA_DESCR
ALEXANDRIA_TITLE
ALEXANDRIA_DESCR
BIBRACTE_TITLE
BIBRACTE_DESCR
MONS_GRAUPIUS_TITLE
MONS_GRAUPIUS_DESCR
TIGRANOCERTA_TITLE
TIGRANOCERTA_DESCR
BATTLE_TUTORIAL_TITLE
MACEDONIAN_RUINS_TITLE
ANCRYA_TITLE
ROME_TITLE
CILICIAN_HILLS_TITLE
SYRIAN_FLATS_TITLE
ARRETIUM_TITLE
ILLYRIAN_VALLEY_TITLE
SOUTHWATER_TITLE
LONDINIUM_TITLE
NUMIDIAN_BASIN_TITLE
SARMATION_MOUND_TITLE
THRACIAN_FOOTHILLS_TITLE
GRASSY_FLATLAND_TITLE

It's a list of all the battle fields.

the download I linked you to contains an edited copy of descr_strat and campain_descriptions files you've already been editing. Download, unzip, copy and paste. You'll be prompted if you want to over-write existed files, click yes and your done, all factions should be playable. Basically it dose the same thing you've already tried, but eliminates error on your part.

posted 06 September 2006 12:03 EDT (US)     10 / 11  
why are you both doing so difficult? i only changed the descr. strat file and it worked perfectly!
posted 07 September 2006 23:30 EDT (US)     11 / 11  
I went to wartrains mod instructions and followed his directions, and now it works. Still, I thank you Calvary for all your help lately.

Julius, any version past 1.3 needs more stuff changed besides descr_strat. you probably have 1.0 so it was easy for you.

[This message has been edited by jrv2005 (edited 09-07-2006 @ 11:31 PM).]

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