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Topic Subject: M2TW, Vista & the Virtual Store

Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus

posted 15 June 2008 11:21 EDT (US)

This is a transcript of a convo between myself & Foamy when I was a little demented over what Vista had done to my unpacked files. My foul & abusive language born of frustration has been removed.

02/08/2007 22:06:06 Gaius Scotty Can you tell me how to?

02/08/2007 22:06:24 Scotty Gaius It's just a notepad file...what's the trouble?
02/08/2007 22:06:49 Gaius Scotty I ran the unpacker and ended up having to uninstall and re-install
02/08/2007 22:06:58 Gaius Scotty No sign of unpacked files
02/08/2007 22:07:15 Gaius Scotty They are handy for doing things like faction overviews
02/08/2007 22:07:26 Scotty Gaius Do you have...VISTA? *Dramatic music*
02/08/2007 22:07:39 Gaius Scotty How did you guess?
02/08/2007 22:07:46 Scotty Gaius Welcome to my world :P
02/08/2007 22:07:57 Gaius Scotty You are the human guinea pig!
02/08/2007 22:08:06 Scotty Gaius ^_^
02/08/2007 22:09:34 Gaius Scotty The subject of your first guide perhaps?

02/08/2007 22:09:51 Scotty Gaius What, a breif summary of the nightmares I encountered with vista? :P;
02/08/2007 22:10:07 Gaius Scotty A detailed one if it makes you feel better!
02/08/2007 22:10:32 Scotty Gaius >
02/08/2007 22:11:08 Gaius Scotty I can only hope my second uninstall and deleting the sega folder has fixed my game.
02/08/2007 22:11:22 Gaius Scotty I get CTD's when I enter battle mode in the campaign
02/08/2007 22:11:22 Scotty Gaius Nope
02/08/2007 22:11:32 Scotty Gaius Sorry, I'll have to show ye how to fixeth it
02/08/2007 22:11:37 Gaius Scotty Oh dear
02/08/2007 22:11:51 Scotty Gaius go to your HD, and click on USers
02/08/2007 22:11:54 Scotty Gaius *Users
02/08/2007 22:12:13 Scotty Gaius once there, click on the folder of the user you are currently on
02/08/2007 22:12:15 Gaius Scotty *obeys*
02/08/2007 22:12:31 Scotty Gaius Now, you MUST have hidden files turned on
02/08/2007 22:12:47 Gaius Scotty eh?
02/08/2007 22:13:09 Scotty Gaius in order to get where your unpacked files are, you must turn hidden files on
02/08/2007 22:13:21 Gaius Scotty How do I do that?
02/08/2007 22:13:40 Scotty Gaius go to control panel
02/08/2007 22:13:53 Gaius Scotty ok
02/08/2007 22:15:20 Scotty Gaius click on switch to classic view
02/08/2007 22:15:36 Gaius Scotty done
02/08/2007 22:15:47 Scotty Gaius and click on the files that says Folder options
02/08/2007 22:16:05 Gaius Scotty yeah
02/08/2007 22:16:29 Gaius Scotty view/hidden files & folders
02/08/2007 22:16:45 Scotty Gaius yes
02/08/2007 22:16:47 Gaius Scotty "show hidden files & folders-OFF"
02/08/2007 22:16:55 Scotty Gaius Switch it to ON
02/08/2007 22:17:13 Gaius Scotty It's at ON already
02/08/2007 22:17:26 Gaius Scotty "Do not show hidden files & folders-ON"
02/08/2007 22:17:31 Scotty Gaius oh
02/08/2007 22:17:37 Scotty Gaius switch it off then :P
02/08/2007 22:17:53 Gaius Scotty done
02/08/2007 22:19:07 Gaius Scotty And then?
02/08/2007 22:19:34 Scotty Gaius go back to your user folder, and click on the file that says "App data"
02/08/2007 22:20:00 Gaius Scotty ok
02/08/2007 22:20:04 Gaius Scotty local
02/08/2007 22:20:10 Gaius Scotty localLow
02/08/2007 22:20:13 Gaius Scotty Roaming
02/08/2007 22:20:57 Scotty Gaius Local
02/08/2007 22:21:03 Scotty Gaius then Virtual Store
02/08/2007 22:21:20 Gaius Scotty Program Files
02/08/2007 22:21:25 Scotty Gaius yes
02/08/2007 22:21:29 Scotty Gaius then find Sega
02/08/2007 22:21:32 Gaius Scotty ProgramData is greyed out
02/08/2007 22:21:43 Scotty Gaius Program Files
02/08/2007 22:21:44 Gaius Scotty Holy mother of Baal
02/08/2007 22:21:51 Gaius Scotty There's loads of stuff in there
02/08/2007 22:22:09 Gaius Scotty Including stuff I've uninstalled since
02/08/2007 22:22:42 Scotty Gaius yeah...talk about HD space eh? :P
02/08/2007 22:22:54 Gaius Scotty Oh dear me. This is something else
02/08/2007 22:23:17 Gaius Scotty Why on earth are they hidden away here? Have they got a deal going with HD manufacturers?
02/08/2007 22:23:32 Scotty Gaius Some sort of demented Vista Shit
02/08/2007 22:23:45 Scotty Gaius when you extract stuff, it sticks it in this folder rather then the target file
02/08/2007 22:23:49 Scotty Gaius it's messed up
02/08/2007 22:24:09 Gaius Scotty This is insane. 5 gigs in the sega folder alone
02/08/2007 22:24:27 Gaius Scotty And it doesn't get uninstalled when you uninstall the game!
02/08/2007 22:24:50 Scotty Gaius Nope
02/08/2007 22:25:06 Scotty Gaius wierd, isn't it?
02/08/2007 22:25:12 Gaius Scotty Can I delete the folders for games I have uninstalled?
02/08/2007 22:25:33 Scotty Gaius yep
02/08/2007 22:25:58 Gaius Scotty It's plain sloppy that they stay on your HD taking up space
02/08/2007 22:26:27 Scotty Gaius It's Microsoft, what would YOU expect?
02/08/2007 22:26:39 Gaius Scotty Argh!
02/08/2007 22:26:48 Gaius Scotty Apple are never this insane
02/08/2007 22:27:05 Scotty Gaius No, Apple knows how to make, Microsoft knows how to sell
02/08/2007 22:27:20 Scotty Gaius if the two came together, they'd be unstoppable
02/08/2007 22:27:22 Gaius Scotty I am almost speechless
02/08/2007 22:27:33 Gaius Scotty So can I simply delete that folder?
02/08/2007 22:27:55 Gaius Scotty I reinstalled the game this morning though
02/08/2007 22:28:01 Scotty Gaius the folders of which you uninstalled
02/08/2007 22:28:04 Scotty Gaius the games
02/08/2007 22:28:06 Gaius Scotty Should I uninstall first?
02/08/2007 22:28:15 Scotty Gaius No, it won't affect the game
02/08/2007 22:28:31 Gaius Scotty All my saves are in there
02/08/2007 22:28:31 Scotty Gaius if you delete it, you'll also get your save games back
02/08/2007 22:28:49 Scotty Gaius when you unpacked your files, the game redirects there
02/08/2007 22:29:01 Scotty Gaius your saves are in the original install folder, not this hidden one
02/08/2007 22:29:14 Scotty Gaius I lost my saves until I deleted that folder
02/08/2007 22:29:44 Gaius Scotty Erm...but my saves appear to be in the hidden folder
02/08/2007 22:29:56 Gaius Scotty The saves folder in Program Files is empty
02/08/2007 22:30:00 Scotty Gaius Yes I know
02/08/2007 22:30:17 Scotty Gaius Copy + Paste the whole thing into your program files folder first
02/08/2007 22:30:33 Scotty Gaius delete the two geography files, and delete the hidden ones
02/08/2007 22:30:36 Gaius Scotty Copy & paste all the files?
02/08/2007 22:30:45 Scotty Gaius copy + Paste the folder
02/08/2007 22:30:50 Scotty Gaius the one that says SEGA
02/08/2007 22:31:00 Scotty Gaius and paste it over your one in the program files
02/08/2007 22:31:07 Scotty Gaius it won't overwrite anything needed for the game
02/08/2007 22:32:08 Gaius Scotty Asking if I want to overwrite medieval2.preference.cfg?
02/08/2007 22:32:19 Scotty Gaius say yes to all
02/08/2007 22:32:55 Gaius Scotty About 4 days & 16 hours remaining
02/08/2007 22:33:05 Scotty Gaius what, do you have a piss poor computer?
02/08/2007 22:33:12 Scotty Gaius Mine took 20 minutes
02/08/2007 22:33:13 Gaius Scotty 2 gigs of ram
02/08/2007 22:33:22 Scotty Gaius I have that
02/08/2007 22:33:35 Gaius Scotty 1 day & 18 hours
02/08/2007 22:34:12 Scotty Gaius Ah
02/08/2007 22:34:18 Scotty Gaius Patience, my young padawan
02/08/2007 22:34:44 Gaius Scotty Only 21 hours now
02/08/2007 22:34:48 Scotty Gaius ;D
02/08/2007 22:35:37 Gaius Scotty 14
02/08/2007 22:36:21 Gaius Scotty 11
02/08/2007 22:36:31 Gaius Scotty God....times flies with MS Vista
02/08/2007 22:36:37 Scotty Gaius indeed
02/08/2007 22:36:43 Scotty Gaius [/bad pun]
02/08/2007 22:37:34 Gaius Scotty 8
02/08/2007 22:39:58 Gaius Scotty 28 mins

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus

posted 12 July 2008 15:11 EDT (US) 1 / 11

I have made the information within this thread into a guide for the modification tutorials section on the front page.

Crue Knight
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(id: Crusader Knight)

posted 06 August 2008 19:17 EDT (US) 2 / 11

The "SEGA" folder does not appear in my all programs folder.

But then I also installed my game in my user folder instead of Programs.

And now somehow my comp is acting psychotic for some reason... I think it's because I turned on hidden Folders. It wont open any window?! Ahh! Let me restart...

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Crue Knight
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posted 08 August 2008 00:30 EDT (US) 3 / 11

It doesn't show up on mine!

I installed my game in:
C/users/Theodor(My User)/tgs/sga/mtw2/

So there. Where are the hidden files?

If you can't answer that, can you tell me which file to save my campaign if I wish to re-install the game. Would the "gamesave.sav" file work if I wish to play it after re-installation?

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus

posted 08 August 2008 06:05 EDT (US) 4 / 11

But then I also installed my game in my user folder instead of Programs.

All I can say is "oh dear"!
Can you uninstall it and try to re-install in the default folder? If you really must avoid "program files", then install it directly on your C drive.

Crue Knight
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(id: Crusader Knight)

posted 10 August 2008 00:22 EDT (US) 5 / 11

Yes, I can re-install it.
So...

If you can't answer that, can you tell me which file to save my campaign if I wish to re-install the game. Would the "gamesave.sav" file work if I wish to play it after re-installation?

Is the .sav file the only one needed to continue my game after installation?

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus

posted 11 August 2008 16:04 EDT (US) 6 / 11

Yes but there may be some issues if the game version is different to that the game was saved at.

Crue Knight
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posted 13 August 2008 00:26 EDT (US) 7 / 11

Damn, I have problems with playing battles on the campaign map, you may know. So I guess I will have to finish the whole game with auto attacks for now then re-start a game with either the patch or get the expansion, like I was planning.

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Gaius Colinius
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posted 13 August 2008 18:53 EDT (US) 8 / 11

Did you run the unpacker? And if so, did you remember to delete the two geography files?

Crue Knight
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posted 16 August 2008 01:35 EDT (US) 9 / 11

I didn't patch it yet... so it's the plain game.
And what 2 geography file are you talking about?

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SubRosa
Legionary

posted 16 August 2008 13:55 EDT (US) 10 / 11

The two geography files cited in the HOWTO: Install Medieval II: Total War patch 1.2 and use the unpacker

Quoted from Unpacker Readme:
- NOTE: Due to a timestamp check, the following unpacked files will
cause the game to crash and must be deleted before the game is
launched:

data\descr_geography_new.txt
data\descr_geography_new.db

Crue Knight
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posted 21 August 2008 00:16 EDT (US) 11 / 11

Ok, thanks.
I'll probably reinstall the game tomorrow. I'll post if I have any problems.

EDIT: ARGH! I reinstalled the game and had the same problems... I need to get the patch then. But then I won't be able to continue playing my campaign!

I worked so hard on it!
I wish i got the expansion, but don't have enough money now so the patch will have to do...

*is tempted to use cheats on next game*

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[This message has been edited by Crusader Knight (edited 08-21-2008 @ 02:05 PM).]

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