The problem I have is whenever I go over about 600 troops, a note pops up saying it might make degraded performance or something. And when I actually play a battle with over 600 troops or so, Everything is VERY slow. Annoying.

600?? Ouch. Whats your system spec?

Actually, it's 840 (I just checked). I have I nice, brand new windows xp. I'm stumped.

thats not too many for a brand new computer..mines a year old bad oem and it can handle 8k fine..whats your graphics card?

[This message has been edited by nice dictator (edited 01-06-2006 @ 05:56 PM).]

no clue. any way to find out?

Type in "dxdiag.txt" in your "run" option in the start menu. Browse the tabs and pages until you find your graphics card.

also try the device manager from the control panel->system->hardware

12,000 !!! last time i checked at least....

But I have a beast so....

[This message has been edited by MaximusDecimus (edited 01-06-2006 @ 07:54 PM).]

[quote/]Type in "dxdiag.txt" in your "run" option in the start menu. Browse the tabs and pages until you find your graphics card. [/quote]
My computer said Windows can't run this program, blablabla.

[This message has been edited by TotalWarFanatic (edited 01-06-2006 @ 08:06 PM).]

My bad.
Just "dxdiag".

The grahpics card should be under "display".

[This message has been edited by Jonathon Clark (edited 01-06-2006 @ 08:20 PM).]

hmmm, my comp says that the game will start runnig slow around 2500 dudes, but i have often gone over this and it still works fine.

im really interseed in this unlimited prefrence thing, what happens when you change it to true?? cause i would like to make the battles how they were in the roman timesd( like 50,000 people on battal feile)

Im not sure thats possible Brutii.
First off you would need a mega computer.

Secondly It wont work because a battle only allows 6 teams. If you put units on Huge Size, and made only peasant armys, which each unit equals 240x20= 4800x6= 28800 soldeirs possible on the field

[quote/] My bad.
Just "dxdiag".
The grahpics card should be under "display". [quote/]

Hmm, I didn't see anything that said graphics card there, but I saw tests. I ran the tests, and it said everything was fine. I'm still stumped

Thanks for all the help anyways, Clark!

[This message has been edited by TotalWarFanatic (edited 01-07-2006 @ 08:29 PM).]

This thread is a perfect example of a topic that can be located in the Index. The way to do it is to open the Index page, then use the built-in browser search to locate a word like "unlimited". Use F3 to search for the next match. Anyway, here is the entry you'll find:

Delayed reinforcements [unlimited, battlefield, AI, control, units, BF]: 1

Quote:

Reinforcement delays delays are caused by a setting in the preferences.txt file, namely UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE.

If you want to change it, then first back up Preferences.txt (make a copy somewhere), then open preferences.txt with notepad, change as below, then save and might as well backup to a new filename.

Set UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD to be either TRUE or FALSE, like:

reinforcements delay
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE

reinforcements do not delay
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:TRUE

You can control a maximum of 20 units on the battlefiled (BF) at one time... that is an absolute limit, no matter what hardware you have! You can have more units on the battlefield, but they are controlled by the AI... not you (the human). These are called reinforcements. And the AI often does 'dumb' things with reinforcements. To use reinforcements (your units beyond 20) immediately this way, set UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:TRUE.

If UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE (the default), then your reinforcements (units past #20) will DELAY entering the battlefield, until you control less than 20 units. So if two units are killed, for example, you have 18. If you have another full stack waiting, then two more units will enter the battlefield from the standard battlesquare vector.

SECOND, SEPARATE ISSUE: AI CONTROL.

In the battlescroll which appears as the battle is initated in the strategic map, there is a computer icon which has a box beside it; if you uncheck this option, then you will control all reinforcements... up to 20, maximum. After 20, the AI gets the rest (if you set UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:TRUE).

Your own reinforcements will always arrive at the beginning of the battle, but you can still only control up to 20 units. If you let the AI control your reinforcement (the box is checked), then your reinforcements will cross the red line and join you immediately.

However, if you set UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE, then the AI will control all reinforcements.

EXAMPLE: Your scroll opens and you have 3 stacks. Your primary stack has 5 units, and the other two have 12 and 20. Your total units at combat initiation is therefore 5+12+20=37.

UMOB     AI Box       #Units on BF  When    #Units You  #Units waiting
                      (maximum)              control    to enter BF
======   ==========   ============  =======  =========== =============
TRUE   + Checked    =   37          Immed.        5**         0
TRUE   + UnChecked  =   37          Delay        20*         17*** 
FALSE  + Checked    =   20          Delay         5**        17
FALSE  + UnChecked  =   20          Delay        20*         17

Special notes:
* - You will control the reinforcement units when they actually enter the active BF.
** - The AI will control all your units on the active BF beyond your primary army stack, including those that are delayed.
*** - As long as you have 20 units on the field, your remaining units will await entry behind the red line; as some of your units die/leave the BF, these reinforcements will begin to enter, keeping you at 20.

Nice to know what it does but what is the hardcode for max soldiers on the field.

well when i ment like alot of people on the ba ttle feild i dont meen like 50 unit cars... i meeen like 600 people in each unit card. get me now??

Quote:

A lot of number I have seen quoted by many people, but none I actually trust (e.g., decisively verified by objective testers). You can test... one number I've seen quoted is 16,000... but I have a feeling its more. The 10,000 limit is removed, of course, as a consequense implementation of my prior post. I've had about 8,000 active at once, but I'm not using a "powerful" machine.

CA has stated that RTW was created to play with graphics cards that did not yet exist in 2004. You can have a unit size of 240, but RTW seems to expect 512 MB video RAM or more to support the textures for it.

Am I the only one whose never had a "note" or anything else tell me how many units I shouldn't go over onscreen?

And, I'm not exactly running a huge machine, here.

The "max" number is not a specific limitation, but based on machine, textures loaded, battle area and background, number of troops, etc. RTW's way of doing that is in the "default" unit size and machine settings made at setup time. But those are often conservative, or not well-recieved by the owner. Most people want to know exact limits and extremes, and the game simply seems to strive to obscure that sort of information. The game "prefers" that you let it make the settings... but of course, you can override most settings in the easily edited .txt files.

My cap was at 6k, on my older computer 3k.
That's fine, I don't need more units on the battlefield, it is already more than any other game could take care of.