Upgrade Archer attacks. If the archers were chased by Berserkers, then ignore them. Berserkers will only get tired in the process while you destroy their berserker-less army. If your infantry got caught by the berserkers then charge Companion or upgraded Greek Cavalry from behind or sides.

My typical Seleucid army includes 8 upgraded Archers, 8 upgraded Greek Cavalry and 4 Levy Pikemen. No German army ever messed with mine and lived to tell the tale. Honestly.

[This message has been edited by el_bandito (edited 12-05-2005 @ 08:29 AM).]

Form a long, thin line with your phalanxes. The enemy charge onto your spearpoints and die. At least the AI does.

Against a human, it is a little more complicated, but the principle still holds. If they charge your phalanxes head on, they are dead. Hit and run with your Cataphracts, while keeping them under Archer fire. Even better, pin them with infantry and charge your Cataphracts into their rear. Nothing can survive that, except possibly elephants and there are other ways to deal with them.

Beserkers use a spread out formation, so they are just made to be charged by elephants or Scythed Chariots. Charge through them and then turn round and come back. Better still, Armoured Elephants with Scythed Chariots on their heels. Even Beserkers should lose to that.

AI doesn't use the berserk ability, hence why they die easily. If you use berserk you can beat a fully upgraded spartan hoplite unit in less than 20 seconds. Phalanx can't stop them I guarantee you.

Regarding archers, most games I play have a max limit of 6 units of one type to prevent spams, so I had 6 units of fully upgraded archers, but they didn't do enough to stop the serks before the ravaged my entire infantry line.

I guess more archers is the only way then, sighs...

The only thing that I have found to work against Berserkers (other than full stack foresters and such) are elephants and scythed chariots. Of course, those tend to freak out and run into your own lines, which does not help me win the battle that much.

On a side note, is it realistic that the scythed chariots can run amok? I mean, no other chariots do that. It seems to just be some way of balanceing them. Or is there some actual reason behind it other than balance?

I guess the horses might be scared of each other's blades.

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Blasphemy, they won't even beat one unit of Spartan Hoplites not upgraded at all. I tried it and I was down to 25 out of 42 when I finally killed all the Berserkers. (They were doing their flip-out thing)

Maybe it was because the spartans were in AI mode.

I tried it again and the 9/3/3 spartans won this time, i guess the first time something went wrong.

There is a simple technique to destroying beserkers. Play as Parthia and use lots of Persian Cavalry. They will keep pouring arrows onto them until eventually they are all dead.

On medium difficulty: 1.3 patch, I put an unupgraded berserker against a fully-upgraded unit of Spartans. The berserkers lost. Miserably.

The trick is to get the berserkers out of their "berserk" state. Once they lose it, they can be routed pretty easily.

Oh, and Yuri's strategy works pretty well too. I had 10 berserkers, each with 3 experience, against a full stack army of Persian cavalry. The stupid AI got half of his army killed, but I still lost.

[This message has been edited by LXPeng (edited 12-15-2005 @ 05:26 PM).]

Since your plying s the Selucids try using Archers, Ongers, or even Peltast. Besrkers have an awesome attack strength but re vulnerable on the defensive. You also might wanna try War Elaphants.

Scythed chariots seem to work fairly well.

Earlier, someone said "Form a long, thin line with your phalanxes. The enemy charge onto your spearpoints and die. At least the AI does."
I've found that even spartans can't beat berserkers, the berserkers just go right around the phalanx then slaughter the spartans. The long line prevents the berserkers from getting around, meaning the spartans would win.
The long thin line strategy works best.

[This message has been edited by TotalWarFanatic (edited 01-18-2006 @ 02:32 PM).]

No idea what you guys are talking about, I have always won with the Spartans against Berserkers.