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posted 04-19-15 02:52 PM EDT (US)   
This post is a response to comments from the Star Wars trailer thread. I didn't want to clutter that one up further. But, if you've seen that thread, you've got the gist of my ideas so far. This should expand upon them.
I know it seems like that will reduce the scale, but I think you'll find that it won't. There's plenty of detail to be had even on a planet.
In this instance I don't quite mean scale, but complexity. Usually, our RPGs are galaxy spanning with us in control of entire empires with massive armies and such. We also have characters which are doing their own thing, and characters in control of minor factions. Unfortunately, if one of the critical players leaves these massive factions, the whole thing gets hung up.

Essentially, there would be two main factions here, with the possibility for maybe one smaller one depending on how you guys want to do it. Then you have the two greater powers meddling and trying to accomplish their own goals. Hopefully, these factions can be represented with only one or two characters each, since we're not talking about the entire faction, just whomever is chose to represent that faction on this planet. Then we'll of course have the loner characters, and perhaps a few characters representing outside forces, like crime syndicates. So, we only really need multiple characters to populate the two main factions. The rest can be filled up with maybe two at the least, perhaps even one.

Also, I've given thought to how the RPG should actually go. We've had several types over the years. The Clone Wars was a big, long, massive war. The goal there was to, well, win the war. Unfortunately it was so ambitious that the only way for it to end was to fade away. I do believe there were several incarnations of a Clone Wars RPG, so if I'm thinking of the wrong one, my bad.

Then we've had ones like A New Empire, where the plot started off more as a framework, and things coalesced into a driving narrative as we went on. But still, there wasn't really an end in sight there beyond what each player had in mind.

Finally, we've had ones like KOTOR II which, I must admit, was slightly ill-conceived. Perhaps it was due to the lack of players, but we were all spread too thin there. Eventually, the story was finding itself, but by that time it was too far gone.

In this instance, I already have an endgame in mind. One side wins, one side loses. Since this is a planetary conflict, and not the Clone Wars, I think the scale is already reduced tremendously. And, as Moff said, there would be plenty of room for character interactions, but also room for factions, major events and battles. I see three phases: Act I - things go to hell. The planet starts off fractured, but intact. Alliances form, sides are drawn, outside help is perhaps taken, perhaps rejected. Everyone outside the main factions are scrambling to protect their own interests. Perhaps even conferences and summits are held with many of the major characters in attendance. Eventually, this devolves into subterfuge, backstabbing, etc. Finally, one event, or a series of them, turns this into an armed conflict. But there is plenty of room for people to ignite the powder keg as they so choose. Act II - warfare. Warfare, atrocities, land/air/sea and space? battles. All that good stuff. Maybe attempts at peace are made. The outside factions further dig in and give support, perhaps leading to an expanded conflict. Act III would of course be the endgame - one side wins, one side loses. Of course, it would be up to see exactly what happens. Eventually, there would be some cleanup and a bit of post-war stuff, with space for characters to complete their arcs, as it were.

Now, I know that there's a lot of planning to involved to set an RPG on an entirely unheard of planet. Since I have a lot of free time lately, I'd be willing to do the bulk of that, with help and input from you guys. I'm no world builder, or at least, not a very good one, but I think we can put a fun playground together that isn't so hyper detailed as to bog us all down, but enough to be immersive and enjoyable. And, of course, I have a feeling that people thinking up their characters would shape how this planet would eventually pan out.

Now, I know it seems like I already have the whole plot planned out, and I might as well just write a story instead of doing an RPG. I just wanted to give you guys ideas and put mine out there. A new RPG can go whichever way we want it, and I wouldn't mind if this idea is completely set aside or modified into something new. I just felt that giving it a structure would get people interested, and add a bit more security to what is usually a big undertaking for those that decide to join up. Of course, I'd be happy to watch the players and their characters tear down this structure and do completely unexpected things. That's half the fun.

As I said before, everyone would be welcome - especially our newcomers, and the guys like Dallows who haven't been too heavily involved in these before. Every post doesn't have to be a mini-novel, but one or two of those would be welcome when the time is right. Fortunately, there is room for all types of characters.

So yeah, discuss, I guess. I just hope we can get some of the RP'ers that haven't been here lately (Sol, Fyyar, Orrion and others) to take a look.

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posted 04-19-15 05:48 PM EDT (US)     1 / 81  
Sounds great to me. I have some idea of playing a sort of Robin Hood-ish character, the leader of a band of thieves who isn't entirely convinced by either side--but could potentially be drawn in on one side or the other. But probably in the mountains rather than a forest, sitting on a pretty stockpile of resources.

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posted 04-19-15 06:42 PM EDT (US)     2 / 81  
I'd be willing to give it a go. I've never done one of these before so you might have to guide me a bit in terms of what is acceptable to do (obviously no one will be pulling a doomsday machine out of thin air, but I don't want to be the guy who is doing crazy, over-the-top things with his character(s) ) I like writing and I don't think I'm terrible at it? So that's a start I suppose.

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posted 04-19-15 08:18 PM EDT (US)     3 / 81  
Naturally, I'm still interested in roleplaying with you guys here. I probably won't be incredibly proactive about it, but I do check here very often.

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posted 04-19-15 08:38 PM EDT (US)     4 / 81  
Like FA said... working on one, though off-site so I dunno if that's a deal-breaker.

Of course, if anyone is familiar with the program "Adobe Lightroom," you might well be a savior for the project...

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posted 04-19-15 09:29 PM EDT (US)     5 / 81  
Well, Moff, why don't you tell us a bit about this RPG you're working on? I always seem to hear that you are working on one, but I never get any of the details or see any of the progress. I am interested.

Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that. - Captain Rex Kramer
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posted 04-20-15 06:04 AM EDT (US)     6 / 81  
Well, there's a few dissertations on the workings of Star Wars technology as they apply in game (so you can hyper in this close, hyper out that close, why Interdictors work, why ion cannons work better against shields but are shorter-ranged than turbolasers, etc)... finally begun putting up specs on fighters... there's a timeline going from the beginning of the Republic to 14 ABY, including a completely redone post-Endor history (Palpy and Vader liiiiiiiiiiiiiive) as well as rewriting the Clone Wars and the end of ROTS because as much as I hate Padme anymore, even I won't let her die of a broken heart...

Plus some various odds, ends, and bits. Unfortunately, this is my yet-to-do list from the admin forum:
Map
-Hyperroutes
-Sector maps
-Territories
-Upload
-Small images

Specs
-Fighters, Holonet
-Capital, Holonet
-Civilian, Holonet
-Fighters, Admin
-Capital, Admin
-Civilian, Admin

Economy
-Everything

Posts
-Endor
-Coruscant
In the background, we also have a few programs running in case the need arises to use an XP-and-level system.

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posted 04-20-15 11:28 AM EDT (US)     7 / 81  
I'd be interested in doing one this summer when I don't have school or finals.

posted 04-20-15 11:30 AM EDT (US)     8 / 81  
Also, totally forgot ground vehicles. And guns. And missiles.

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posted 04-20-15 03:23 PM EDT (US)     9 / 81  
Wait, when did a level system come into play?

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posted 04-20-15 03:50 PM EDT (US)     10 / 81  
It hasn't. Yet. It's an insurance policy.

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posted 04-20-15 06:42 PM EDT (US)     11 / 81  
Are you talking about this one Moff?

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posted 04-20-15 07:37 PM EDT (US)     12 / 81  
That's Endor.

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posted 04-20-15 10:49 PM EDT (US)     13 / 81  
Well, Moff, that does sound pretty interesting to me, but it still seems to be deep in the preparation stages. I was hoping we would be able to put something together in a relatively short amount of time in time for summer, when potential players like Orrion would be free. I hope you'll keep us updated on our progress but, if you can manage it, I hope you will be able to sign on to this one with at least one character. It would be much diminished without you. Either way, I welcome all your input as things progress.

As for everyone else, I'm glad to hear of your interest. Unfortunately, that only leaves us with five people, which is a pretty low number. Flying Ace, you posted. Are you interested at all? I'm also hoping some of the older RP'ers who have been on the site recently will see the discussions. And hopefully anyone in MEC that would potentially want to join up.

Anyways, to keep discussion going, I'd like to put this question forth: which era would we like to set this game in? We could, of course, pick any era we want, but I think the four main periods offer the best choices. Of these, I'd have to put the Rebellion at last. Ideally, we want our planet to be neutral to the major conflict, and somehow I doubt the Empire at the height of its power wouldn't hesitate to send in a fleet and conquer it outright, even if it was on the edge of their space.

As far as the other eras go, I'd put the New Republic era next up. In this period, the Empire is just a shell of its former self, depending on who is in charge. They would be desperate for a resource rich planet grateful to them for helping resolve their civil war. On the other hand, I feel the New Republic would stick their noses in by default, and the two sides don't necessarily have to start shooting automatically.

Neck and neck for me are the Clone Wars and KOTOR eras. Why Clone Wars? Because it's me you're talking to, that's why. Plus I do like the idea of the CIS actually trying to be sneaky for once and they have plenty of supplies to sell on the cheap. Also, I think both sides are likely to respect a neutral world, depending upon how evil the CIS are portrayed - so Grievous would be out. As for the KOTOR era, in both games we've seen examples of divided planets: Manaan and Onderon. In one both sides were stuck with a truce, on the other we had little to no Republic presence but the Sith meddling in a civil war. I think we can merge the two together for an interesting experience. Plus, then there are the two wildcard factors: Sith that are not aligned with the main leadership at the time and, of course, Jedi that are aligned to the Republic, but not necessarily there to act accordance with their wishes.

Anyways, feel free to discuss this. I'd like to hear everyone's input.

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posted 04-21-15 03:12 AM EDT (US)     14 / 81  
I'd be up for a bit of scheming and joustling like in the old days!

Personally I'd like it to be in the Clone Wars and detail something original. Like a Separatist-friendly but neutral system being leaned on by the Republic to go with them, perhaps because they're sitting on a local hyperspace junction, a HoloNet transceiver station or something like that. Make the Republic the one with the somewhat overwhelming force for once.
But I'd be up for the fun no matter what!

EDIT: I ended it being a bit inspired, and instead of working on my thesis (can't believe I was in middle school when I joined this place) I wrote this. It details the thoughts of defence force Major General Firmus Henral on the state of his Outer Rim system. Please note that it's just for inspirational purposes, and I'm all in on doing something else as well.

They mostly wanted to mind their own business, much like many systems which had gone with the Confederacy, but their position seemingly made it impossible in the long run. The Republic kept sending envoys with offers and had begun squeezing trade with neighboring Republic-aligned systems and posting larger and larger escorts with the Republic convoys crossing their space. They were also making recon flights in the fringes of the system, buzzing the settlements on the outer planets. Meanwhile the Confederacy was extending an offer of protection, trade and assistance - an offer his government would probably end up being forced to take at some point if things kept going on like this. Henral didn’t like the thought of being dragged into the war. He had seen his own squadron shredded to bits over Troiken when he flew with Ranulph Tarkin’s Outland Regions Security Force and had no wish to send his boys flying into the jaws of death.

But things had changed in the Outer Rim over the last couple of years. Back in the days when the Republic had practically forgotten everything rimward of Gyndine many outlying systems and sectors had been at the mercy of pirates and warlords, which had forced the many small defense forces to cooperate extensively. It had fostered a level of cooperation and exchange of technologies, expertise and personnel the central government could hardly fathom without their all-knowing guidance.

Henral had flown with folks from all over the Rim and had seen many worlds, consulted many defense forces and been inspired by others. However after Naboo things began to change. First it had fostered increased interest in banding together to acquire new military equipment, but since then things had been going downhill. Bitterness and factionalism returned when the Republic took up new interest in the Rim as a reaction to the movement that became the Confederacy. And after the Republic struck Geonosis and full scale war had broken out, he knew good and honorable men from Dubrillion to Annaj who were shooting at each other due to their systems joining either the Republic or the Confederacy.

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posted 04-21-15 09:45 AM EDT (US)     15 / 81  
I certainly wouldn't mind doing a smaller scale story with you guys, especially since all the roleplaying I've done has been very small ( like a dozen characters ) in comparison to what you guys appearantly do.

I would be fine with any era, though if you did the Clone Wars I would be very tempted to use Naat and/or Tann.

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posted 04-21-15 10:38 AM EDT (US)     16 / 81  
My personal vote would be KotOR era, but I don't object to Clone Wars if that's what everyone else prefers.

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posted 04-21-15 01:08 PM EDT (US)     17 / 81  
It hasn't. Yet. It's an insurance policy.
...Dammit >_<

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posted 04-21-15 03:17 PM EDT (US)     18 / 81  
Personally I'd like it to be in the Clone Wars and detail something original. Like a Separatist-friendly but neutral system being leaned on by the Republic to go with them, perhaps because they're sitting on a local hyperspace junction, a HoloNet transceiver station or something like that. Make the Republic the one with the somewhat overwhelming force for once.
While I do like where you're going with that idea, Fyyar, I was hoping galactic politics would only play a small role, at least at first. I'd rather not have each side split between which faction they want to support, but rather, have both factions drawn to the planet over its importance and/or requests for assistance. Although I would find it interesting to do a role reversal - the government in power are the ones friendly with the CIS, while the rebels want to support the Republic. Usually we see it the other way around. But I'd like the differences between the two factions to be mostly internal - conflicts over local politics, resources, social issues, that only widens when they realize that a civil war is brewing and they might need bigger allies.

Also, this would keep the conflict from immediately turning into yet another massive Clone Wars battlefield. I'm thinking, at max, perhaps a small squadron of warships from each side are presenting, housing armies sizable enough for one big battle, thus the need for more strategic engagements is key. It's a bit like the Vietnam War, with a bit of hypothetical tweaking. Let's say that the USSR was much more actively backing the North, while the US could only send certain numbers of troops to the South. It would be a conflict fought mostly with Vietnamese soldiers but, on each side, the USSR/US would be supplying troops in key roles, as well as financial support and materiel.

That's just how I'd like to see it play out, though. I'm of course open to modifications or a complete change. I just like the idea of a planet managing to stay neutral and independent throughout its history, only turning to the outside when they feel an intractable conflict approaching.

Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that. - Captain Rex Kramer
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[This message has been edited by Viceroy Billy (edited 04-21-2015 @ 03:27 PM).]

posted 04-21-15 03:51 PM EDT (US)     19 / 81  
It's only if people act like complete douches, FA, and want to know and master all 12 lightsaber forms and mainline variants, plus create six of their own which are superior in every way, and do Battle Meditation while pulling Star Destroyers from the sky by wiggling their toes... all while making everyone else romance Cortez.

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posted 04-21-15 08:25 PM EDT (US)     20 / 81  
...I'd be interested, but would want to see how things develop before committing into it. If I did I'd be pretty slow in posting and yes, I'd definitely be more collaborative.

Ideally however someone (Billy?) should have a decision-making GM to make the calls on any type of conflict and guide the story. Having someone "in charge" would help out me not being bossy, lol. Or pushing my vision on others.

Just some comments and suggestions, not meant as demands:

I agree with Moff, while I love characters with passion and vision, and I still love my manipulative characters, I really don't like Mary Sue omniscient characters that get deus ex machina solutions to everything. I also don't like superships or superweapons of any kind, unless it's for dramatic staging. If they're in a story it's to be blown up. Lightsaber duels on their command deck is also acceptable.

I like the idea of limiting the scale to make things up-close and personal, but keeping it planet-bound feels like missing an opportunity to use the galactic EU. Perhaps not just a single planet but a multi-planet system, or even a Sector.

Billy, once I read your and Fyyar's description of the ideal planet I thought of Corellia. It has a great variety of politics, trade, crime, and at any given time period has sizable political tension with five planets and three species. Centerpoint Station ideally would not be anything other than a giant space station however. Corellians also has a history of being stubbornly independent.

Conflict on Corellia would affect galactic politics, thereby warranting the attentions and the intriguing of galactic powers. And Corellia is a bit of a blank space in the EU so we could have some fun filling it out.

Thoughts?


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posted 04-21-15 08:31 PM EDT (US)     21 / 81  
I'd prefer an original world that is more open to development, personally; Corellia's been pretty well covered in the (no longer canon) EU and automatically comes with certain preconceptions thanks to Han.

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posted 04-21-15 09:45 PM EDT (US)     22 / 81  
As I said in the other thread, I might be interested in joining this, though probably not in an extremely large role.

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posted 04-21-15 10:14 PM EDT (US)     23 / 81  
I've had a thought about this, I'm not sure how small of a scale you guys would consider, and it's not much but . . .

Perhaps we could have the entire plot set on a single planet. Some independent element discovers some out-of-the-way planet that isn't quite committed to one side of the war has some relic/weapon/holocron/whatever that would be worth something to both sides, residing secretly on the planet. Both sides decide to send a small group to the planet, ostensiably to persuade the planet to join their side/solidify their support, but also with individuals tasked to find and acquire the macguffin-thing. While the item is still pretty much secret, as both sides have managed to hear about, there is obviously room for fringe or independent elements to get involved as well.

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posted 04-21-15 10:23 PM EDT (US)     24 / 81  
I endorse jssf's idea. It sounds like a great setup for drama.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?”

"And now the moon, earth's friend, that cared so much/for us, and cared so little, comes again—/always a stranger!"--Robert Lowell, "The Public Garden"
posted 04-21-15 11:17 PM EDT (US)     25 / 81  
So, essentially you'd want the focus to be on two teams from competing sides, as well as third parties, trying to recover the item? This would effectively transform the RPG into a solely character based adventure with several competing sides, right? Or am I not entirely following you?

While I do like this idea, I'm almost certain that, as Sol suggested, we would need a GM for this type of game. And while I would be happy to perform that role for one more based on armies/factions/civil war, I don't think I would be good at this role. Plus, I'm worried just how much we could do with that. Essentially there would be a main quest and side quests for each group, as it were, and once over the plot is resolved.

Perhaps we could combine the two ideas into one? We could have a larger scale playing field for the people that are interested in that, and then a smaller scale quest type for those that don't want to make large commitments? Plus, if you want, you could always take up a role in both. And, each plot could affect the other - I'm assuming the civil war plot might do most of the pushing, though.

I could easily imagine both galactic factions sending a small task force of ships to essentially win the planet, while they also send a covert team in to recover some type of object of interest. These teams, of course, could be made up of all sorts of combos. Bounty Hunters, Jedi, Dark Jedi, Clone Commandos, as well as people on the outside. Maybe the Hutts want it too?

Also, the native factions could get involved too - if it's on their planet, they are going to want it to either help win the war or win big points for their supporters of choice. Thoughts?

Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that. - Captain Rex Kramer
This is a vegetarian restaurant only, we serve no animal flesh of any kind. We're not only proud of that, we're smug about it. - Michael Palin
L.A. 15, 7 Adam. 10-5 to Mary 3, I've got a blue van in the RV storage lot, 1600 North Willow. 10-35, 7 Adam is rolling.
posted 04-22-15 03:32 AM EDT (US)     26 / 81  
Billy, I like your ideas. I believe you should perform the function of GM.

The problem with the setting, as I see it, is that either both big factions are present in force in the beginning, which probably quickly leads to shots being fired, or there is a large enough deterrant for one of the two factions to simply swoop in and take over the planet. It sort of precludes there being two roughly equally strong local sides.

However, if the government of the system was a sort of federation, with some states backing one side, some backing the other and some being neutral, and them having all sorts of internal grievances anyway, that could effectively set the stage for politicking, subterfuge, negotiations and fighting. Then the two galactic sides could have envoys, perhaps small contingents, present in the beginning, and things go could to hell some way.

That could easily be combined with a MacGuffin lying hidden somewhere, perhaps in an area cordoned off by the local government, which happens to be completely unwilling to let anybody in.

Galactic politics can easily influence the whole thing without a single scene being set anywhere else and without huge fleets.

I'd like for the system to be an original one in the Rim, maybe with a population of a few hundred million and made up of colonists of different species.

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[This message has been edited by Admiral Fyyar (edited 04-22-2015 @ 03:35 AM).]

posted 04-22-15 03:48 AM EDT (US)     27 / 81  
Actually, I had the setting of Manaan in mind. Perhaps there's something there, perhaps related to the MacGuffin, that is so desired by the galaxy at large yet so tightly and securely controlled by the local government that they are essentially forced to not invade and take over the planet.

In addition, since the universe doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the movies/shows/EU material, we don't have to have the paragons of good on one side and the champions of evil on the other. In a more realistic environment, if the CIS invades, this could prompt outrage on behalf of all the other small independent worlds. And if the Republic were to invade, that might prompt some of their planets to defect to the CIS. So, it would make some sense for them to show restraint and just not outright invade or fight each other.

I was also thinking we could just set it at a point in the war where all the fleets are tied up in major battles. That way, each side can only send out a small force to investigate.

However, I do like the idea of expanding the setting to a planetary system, it just might be wise not to focus to much on all the other worlds. Or else we could become spread out and lose focus.

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[This message has been edited by Viceroy Billy (edited 04-22-2015 @ 03:55 AM).]

posted 04-22-15 05:30 AM EDT (US)     28 / 81  
Emulating Manaan to some degree is a pretty good idea. And I agree that setting it at some point with no major military ressources to spare from the great powers is a good idea.

If we use Clone Wars terms, maybe the MacGuffin could be a crashed recon ship (perhaps with a Jedi pilot) with maps of a newly charted hyperroute that is a back door to a major CIS world in the Rim. The Republic fears going in and taking it results in the system joining the CIS, whereas the CIS fears moving in results in the maps as well as the world ending in Republic hands.

Regarding whether to set it in a system rather than a planet, I mostly imagined it to be a system of a single interesting planet with an orbital station or two as well as a few small settlements in other places. Nothing major.

ADMIRAL FYYAR
The RPG & Election Ruiner
Lord Fooby & Lord Fyyarby '09 - The Superior Choice
posted 04-22-15 05:36 AM EDT (US)     29 / 81  
I'm good with all those ideas. I love the idea of a Jedi with a crashed recon vessel - also it opens up a very interesting role for someone, as well as some unique interactions and possibilities for other characters.

As for the system, that sounds great to me. An uninhabited moon would be a nice addition, as it adds a potential hiding spot for warships in the area. Also, perhaps there can be an orbiting station with enough weaponry to put it at a Golan platform? Not only does it serve as a further deterrent, but it could also be a point of conflict around which a space battle could coalesce, or at least an armed boarding action on the station.

Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that. - Captain Rex Kramer
This is a vegetarian restaurant only, we serve no animal flesh of any kind. We're not only proud of that, we're smug about it. - Michael Palin
L.A. 15, 7 Adam. 10-5 to Mary 3, I've got a blue van in the RV storage lot, 1600 North Willow. 10-35, 7 Adam is rolling.

[This message has been edited by Viceroy Billy (edited 04-22-2015 @ 05:37 AM).]

posted 04-22-15 07:17 AM EDT (US)     30 / 81  
I forgot to mention it, but we can't have a good setting without a large orbital station! An unhabited moon is a very common sight, so that's a natural addition.

The recon plot as such works in both Clone Wars and KoTOR settings, and could be made to work in the New Republic era as well. If it's during the Clone Wars, the presence of a Jedi pilot could also make Dooku send a Dark Jedi and/or bounty hunters under the radar to acquire the maps and take out the Jedi while CIS envoys work the diplomatic levers. And the Republic could be doing something similar to recover their missing comrade.

ADMIRAL FYYAR
The RPG & Election Ruiner
Lord Fooby & Lord Fyyarby '09 - The Superior Choice
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