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So, that means its effective vs. no one?

Last time I checked, every civ got culvs.

Also, 9:30 is a bit late. By then, a FFer attacks, with Spaniards its earlier, same goes for Ottomans and sometimes Germans.

Russian rush=dead, since even if you spot a rush you have nothing to stop it but resource cards.

I doubt 16 ruyters+5 falcs would be able to stop the standard dragoon+LI+culv or dragoon+LI+falc combo at 9:30, but a rec would be helpful.

So, a recording of the game would help better understand how it does, but I'm somewhat skeptical.

if you make 3~4 vils in age1 with starting gold, then it is FCUK.

anyways, 700w-700f-700g gives a faster fortress time.

5 halbs is obviously better than 400w on non-water maps.

700w-700g-600w is generally better, as you need to chop less wood, 600w = foundry + 3 houses + 120 build XP from them,

a tighter BO would be age with exile prince, which is generally safer, and you should end up with same amount use troops.

8 halbs and 8 skirms shipment are better than the 7 ruyters. or even better, 2 less falcs and forget the 7 ruyters, get 12 swiss pike.

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He said it's not effective against *players* who have culvs. Not civs.

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No, he's aged up in plenty of time to deal with russians.

The only problem I have with this strat is the falc/ruyter ratio. 16 ruyters isn't much for protecting such a mass of artillery. I'll try it out though. Thanks for sharing.

My suggestion: go heavier ruyters earlier to deal with their initial army (especially melee/ranged cav) then bring on the artillary as a second wave, unless you're pretty confident they'll have mainly infantry (Russia, Otto FF) as their army. 16 ruyters to protect 5 falcs is a bad ratio, IMO.

All civs potentially have the correct cards and units to handle this attack. But not all players chose a deck with the correct cards or have the right resources at the exact right time to call on these cards/units. For example: how often do you see culverins before the 10 minute mark?

Did you get to 2.1k using this strat?

RedStripe

1 vs. 1 RM
Rank: 25095 Rating: 1631 Wins: 3 Losses: 1

Overall DM
Rank: 30679 Rating: 1588 Wins: 0 Losses: 2

Overall RM
Rank: 457 Rating: 2111 Wins: 520 Losses: 216

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So, I take it this is not a 1v1 strat?

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Read the next sentence.

He has nothing but resource cards, no 3 hussars, 2 outposts, etc.

Age-up time has nothing to do with it. If you're not prepared, you're screwed.

I didn't use this strategy to get to 2.1k. Heck, I doubt I am capable to get to 2.1k using the dutch. The dutch are simply to UP. I am an ottoman large game player at heart... and I don't think I have played a 1v1 game in over 3 months.

RedStripe
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Cuetech: 2120

If you're not capable of getting to 2.1k with Dutch, why bother posting your cuetech?

Does it mask your true skill?

Oh come on no reason to bash the guy, 2100 overall is a decent rate either way, and mist your overall is 1964 so whatever. It's always nice to have people post strats in a strat forum what would it be without it?