imo id be brits in 1.08. They are more fun to play.

Also

Manors/estates > extra tcs

lbow >casadores

Falcs > organ guys

Also ports imo are boring to play and the only reason i played them was for ronin. ...

Anyways jus remember this was all in my opinion.

Manors/estates > extra tcs > banks

lbow >casadores > skirms

jinetes>goons>ruyter

guereros=redcoat>halb

i guess port will be reasonable balanced after the patch, at least better balanced then brittish

[This message has been edited by schildpad (edited 07-29-2006 @ 03:33 PM).]

I'm sorry, but there is no way that Brit will be OP just from the 15/10 cheaper wood manours. If anything, it will give them somewhat of a competitive chance in 1v1. And don't begin saying things such as "omg wtf cheaper barracks pwn", beacuse every civ has the advantage.

There is no way in hell Britain will be as OP as Germany ... ever. Same for Spain, I'm sure the change in shipment times is NOT that significant.

Quoted from Brtnboarder495:

Look up "compound interest". Or just think "snowball effect". Then see if your opinion changes.

ENder lol.

Ender says, "Search feature rocks.
Here's a quote from that thread: "In conclusion, the Lancer can definetly be considered the best cavalry unit in the game"."

Right, the statment explains itself quite clearly acctually. To me that doesnt look like "teh best calvary eva!", what it looks like is a reasonable argument, dou you see the CAN DEFENETELY BE CONSIDERED the best cav unit in the game............

..

Ender ive heard you rant and rave a WHOLE LOT about the falconet and its superiority to Oguns. But none of what you say is a FACT, but just your OPINION. Every1 can agree that a falconet is better than Ogun, thats what ES intended, however the Ogun has a different attack distribution, which results in different things.

Ender says, "And I find it interesting that you chose to ignore this (obviously inconvenient to your argument) part:"

How about you ignoring that fact that you NEVER take anyone elses opinion into consideration but yours. Remember your a regular poster like every1 else not the pompous know all like you act.

Ender says, "And you know what they say about opinions ..."

Right tell yourself that =D

Ender says, " just spent the last 11 hours working outside (thankfully the night wasn't as hot as the previous days). I'm relaxing now, thanks very much. And making poor ub3r tear his hair out in frustration is part of it.

Annoying you, Ramaan, is another enjoyable part, and has been for a while."

Lmao! If you actually know the excact hours you spent outdoors, you need more friend. And if aggrivating and trying to frustrate people is your goal when you make posts, thats sad.

Ender what was you doing outside by the way? You have sooo much game knowledge, your cuetech is soooo high, i bet you were outside practicing strats with some corny friends of yours in your backyard, like acting them out irl.

[This message has been edited by ub3r (edited 07-29-2006 @ 11:15 PM).]

Who the hell cares if Lancer is the best Cav ever? This thread is not about Lancers... or if Oguns > Falconets? Lets not get into a pointless Ogun uses discussion because this will also bring us to nothing but a quote wars. I also don't give a >insert censored word here< to Ender's life or his cuetech, so could we get back on topic and stop trying to start quote wars?

Also hope no one qoutes me...

mist hasnt been on in a while, and than Ub3r picks fights with ender.

why must this always happen?

and now that im back, hes gonna be picking fights with me

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they definitly get the best benefit, and germany gets the worst, nobody can argue with that.

IMO ports will fall drastically on the power chart of civs, and defintily wont be top 3 anymore, along with ottos.

Quote:

1.07 drags + cannon would work fine, and hussars sucked. TBH i never used hussars vs. lbow, cannons and drags was all you needed to beat a brit. now the lbows will FURTHER own the drags, as they basically (kinda) did before.

this change is a HUGE disadvantage to ports, especially against the other booming civs (brits and dutch) because of the spamnation of skirms and longbows.

You guys need to stop makin me look like the bad guy, Ender always acts like his word is the better one, in EVERY argument, and just becuz i choose to not agree with him doesnt make me suspect.

Ender loves to quote people and try to twist and manipulate things they say so it seems exxaggerated, im just clearing it up.

Keep making crafty posts E, i always enjoy them, as for Oguns vs Falconet, i agree its a dead issue, the only reason why i mentioned becuz i have had success with them agianst longbows. Maybe others havet, but i have.

Lastly liek i said stop tryin to make it seem like im picking a fight, all i am doing is making decent threads thats start soemetimes heated discussions. You guys can hate all you want, but eveytime i make a post, it is a reasonable and sometimes, lengthy, debated discussion.

I do not hate you. But I hate when people go tottally of topic just to argue.

BTW: My topic is directed to Ender too.

Quoted from ub3r:

It's called a "job". Something you'll find out about when you're done with highschool.

Or not ...

Quoted from ub3r:

It is my opinion or an undisputable fact that Falconets have a greater area of effect than Organ Guns?
Is it my opinion or an easily testable fact that Organ Guns cease fire and waste shots when their initial target dies?
Is it my opinion or an undisputable fact that Falconets have greater range than Organ Guns?
It is my opinion or an undisputable fact that Falconets have more hitpoints than Organ Guns?

Etc.

How many times do we have to come back to this pointless argument?

Quoted from ub3r:

Oh you mean like here?. Where just a couple of days ago I said:

"Now that I'm aware of these relatives I've no choice to be concede that I was wrong."

You might want to seek professional help about that obsession you have with me.

Quoted from ub3r:

Installing NMD90 cable. How 'bout you? Done with homework?

Quoted from Just a player:

*shrug*

I already wrote everything I had to say about Portuguese and British in 1.08. To say again that British will be one of the if not the top civ in 1.08 and that Portuguese will just be "OK" at best, would be repeating myself.

Oops ...

You have doble posted just to quote me. You have to admmit you like quote wars

Anyway lets try to put some order here.

Ender im the least bit even interested in you, never mind obsessed. Every1 on these boards know how you are, and the fact that you have to show me your own quote talking about how you admitted your wrong is solid proof of your character.

Like Player said lets have some order here, and you really dont want to talk about Jobs, i been out of highschool for 3 years, and i prolly make more money than your father.

Im just trying to have a decent argument about how i think Ports have success against Brits, and instead of giving his insight in a healthy discussion, he wontonly blasts every1s ideas and thoughts, to prove some kind of unneeded self security when it comes to knowledge about AOE3.

PS. Why would any1 have homework in the summer? ANd acctually im making money while posting this msg to you, considering im at work =D

Kep installing them wires you smart cable guy!

Quoted from ub3r:

Oh I sincerely doubt that. On both counts.

Quoted from ub3r:

Usually (but not always) it's the people who failed a subject (or three) during the regular year that find themselves in summer school.
But I must admit that I wasn't thinking like a highschooler. Most people tend to work during the summer (with the exception of vacation time, which in my trade is pretty random, and almost never during the busy summer season with all the plant shutdowns that go on). Not surprising that it slipped my mind that some may be at home, relaxing.

Quoted from ub3r:

Nah, just your full of holes ones, mostly. Which you have a monopoly on in this thread. Just like you used to back in the day.
By the way, learn the difference between "providing a counter argument" and "blasting everyone's ideas".
For example, when I, among others in this thread have disputed your idea that 5 Mamelukes can kill 20 Pikemen, you not only did not concede it, but you switched to personal attack mode (on me, ofcourse). Which is not at all surprising. Personal attacks and insults are, after all, the last resort of the incompetent.

Quoted from ub3r:

Pst ... It's a type of electrical, not video cable. Be careful about guessing people's professions, lest you show your own ignorance.

Lastly, let's boil this "discussion" down to the simplest possible level, so we can get this over with quicker:

My penis is bigger than yours.

There. That should speed things along, one way or another ...

[This message has been edited by Ender_Ward (edited 07-30-2006 @ 01:56 AM).]

Quote:

Need the irony be pointed out?

Quoted from The Bob:

Yes. Please do.

Because I can't believe you'd be that dense. I pointed out what this "discussion" between ub3r and myself is really all about. You'd need to make me care alot more about the guy to actually bother directly insulting him. Which I would be abit more creative in doing, if that was my intention.

P.S.
This thread locked yet?
The sooner this happens the sooner somebody (other than Mr. "I'll argue with a wall!" ub3r) starts a thread where people can actually discuss Brits and Portuguese in 1.08 like normal people, without throwing a hissy fit when one of their precious points is disputed.

[This message has been edited by Ender_Ward (edited 07-30-2006 @ 02:20 AM).]

Hmm, good work Ender you've actually managed to not only ignore the fact you insulted him while telling him insults are the last resort of the inept, but you also managed to insult me for pointing out what you said.

Honeslty, I don't care about what you two are arguing over, I only read your post above the one I made; so how about instead of taking refuge amongst the "incompetent", when you so clearly believe yourself above them, you rise above their level and don't insult people over the internet.

[This message has been edited by The Bob (edited 07-30-2006 @ 02:12 AM).]

Quoted from The Bob:

Please show me where I directly insulted ub3r.

Quoted from The Bob:

Expressing my disbelief that you did not get the "penis size contest" comparison, is insulting you?
*shrug*
Ok then ...

I have to say though, that you are quick to see an insult where there was half humour half commentary on what the thread devolved into. You seem awefully quick to feel insulted yourself as well. It wouldn't have anything to do with our previous "conversaion" history, would it?

P.S.
Anyway, I need to get some sleep now. Those wishing to continue this e-penis size comparison, feel free to go on without me for the time being.

[This message has been edited by Ender_Ward (edited 07-30-2006 @ 02:24 AM).]

Mods, please close this. It has degenerated horribly into a flame/quote war and is no longer serving any purpose...

*dances in a closed thread*

i'm sorry, i couldn't help it...

this thread has fallen apart into another eye-poking head-smacking episode with the two HG stooges.

i'm sorry, i couldn't help that either...

Ugh.

I'll say this to all involved - you know who you are - the next time someone makes a personal attack, baits, trolls or flames under the pretence of arguing they'll get a week ban. This forum isn't the place to have a daily personal battle with people; it's annoying other forummers who just want to discuss. I've had enough of this and it's going to stop now.

Attack the argument, not the person.

-Closed

[This message has been edited by Luke M (edited 07-30-2006 @ 08:05 AM).]