euh, cya grunt? Not even in top 10 overall.

i like it that they dont show you when you dont play for 15 days. Imo that is one of the better things till now in PR, decay. But this will solve it too

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I like the sound of that. It will give you a more accurate depiction of where you stand in relation to the active players.

No StarSky in top 10?

LOL, so according to their logic, people who never play team games, because they don't like them, are penalised for it? Heh, a few months ago that would have made me pretty damn mad.

^ If you don't like team games then just look at the 1v1 ratings. I don't see it as being penalised. If you don't play team games then I don't see why you should do well on a ladder that's supposed to reflect your overall performance in 1v1 and team games.

They should just get rid of "overall" and have both team and 1v1 separate from each other.

they should keep the overall, it is good

Overall is completely arbitrary based on whatever formula they choose to use. I could just as easily echo Ender_Ward's reponse:
LOL, so according to their logic, people who never play 1v1 games, because they don't like them, are penalised for it? Heh, a few months ago that would have made me pretty damn mad.

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Agreed.

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There will be both, the Teamladders and the Overall ratings. Overall is just a kind of "meta-ladder" now, its simply avg(1on1rating,teamrating).

I want to state that we dont want to penaltise 1on1 players in any way. In my opinion the 1on1 ladder is by far the most important/accurate indication of skill. But overall ladder is supposed to show combinded 1on1 and teamgame-skills, and this is what it will do now

The Clan-Ratings will be based on the Overall-Ratings of the clan members.

For the people searching for StarSky: He actually has the higest Overall-Rating of all players, but he is inactive

sounds pretty cool. i wonder how many high ranks only play 1v1s. ive always figured its alot and soon we shall see.

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Figured as much. I think he's mad because his Germans got nerfed.

Or maybe its coz i asked him how the tourney was goin just after he lost...oh silly me lololol

And is there any point removing overall...as long as they have 1v1 im happy.

imo overall should more be something like:

([1v1 rate]*#1v1 games+[team rate]*#team games)/ Total # games

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Then overall ratign would be biased towards your "better" discipline. Overall rating is imo supposed to show how good you are as "allrounder", so it wouldnt make sense that way i think. I was actually considering to do it the other way around (something like overall=min(1on1,team), not as extreme as a simple min tho).

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ah, i understand.

But then it is not overall, it is allround. imo it is related but different.

Well NightScr3am takes dogs abuse on Age Sanctuary.

For only being a spain lamer.

Spain, possibly one of the worst civs for team games, and yet he is still 6th overall.

I like the new ladders.

I was just taking a look at last 500 games
http://www.agecommunity.com/query/games.aspx?max=500

and was counting 1v1 vs 2v2+ supremacy games
when I got to 34 and 34 (1:1 ratio) I stopped counting.
The number of 1v1 vs team games looks to be about even trend even though this is probably not enough data.

iamgrunt will still be best in 1 vs 1,which is good because its quite obvious that he is the best 1 vs 1 player by a good margin. In team......why would mr Cheese be #1? Have we seen anything that great from him?

He's a really good Team Player from what I have seen.

From the team games I've seen of him he's been excellent.

He's played in 3 games in season 3 of our league for hope clan. Played in a lot of excellent games in season 2 as well but those were 1.07/1.06 games. I can see him being very highly ranked on a team ladder.

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instead of speculating, u now have the possibility to check out the new system

just read my news here

all in all not bad, but lots of ratings now...

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Im sure it will rock once they fix it. Looks pretty damn hardcore.

So, a bit of clarification...team SP is purely your team games, allround is a combination of 1v1 and team, overall is same as before (how's that different from allround?) and 1v1 is just your 1v1 games.

So my question is, why is my 1v1 so high? it's a good 100+ points higher than the 1v1 I have now.

Also, why is my team so low? Is this because team games give so little ELO points, or what?

in the team rating, team games gives the same elo-points as 1on1 games in the 1on1 rating

however, team ratings seem to be a little bit lower than 1on1s, probably due to less "professionals" playing teamgames regularly

i also wonder, why 1on1 rating is higher for most players i heard talkin about, just dunno

difference between overall and allround?
allround is the average of team and 1on1 games, overall is much more 1on1-related

Doesn't work for me