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posted 06-25-02 10:02 AM CT (US)   
Well..I was going to implement this trigger trick in Cincinnatus II..but as that's gone to the garbage chute, i might as well let it known.

Everyone knows about damaging a [certain type of] bridge so that walkable water can be acquired. But, have you tried setting the bridges on fire?

Damage them..oh, i don't know..about 500 and they start to burn in the middle. The player can NOT be gaia..he should be in gray color. Put some path over them, map copy them..

You have yourself hot springs! I've also tried putting mountains over the bridges, it works very nicely..the mountain actually burns..well, it doesn't..but it looks like it's burning.

I'm not going to release pictures, unless you insist..

Shiva


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posted 06-25-02 01:23 PM CT (US)     1 / 30  
I insist that you release pictures.

This is a neat trick. Much better than having to use farms.


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posted 06-25-02 01:57 PM CT (US)     2 / 30  
I also insist!!!! It's a great trick, only wish I had thought of it... hehe

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posted 06-25-02 02:23 PM CT (US)     3 / 30  
Tough choice, would love to see the pictures.
What I really would like is to see the pictures in Cincinnatus II
posted 06-25-02 03:46 PM CT (US)     4 / 30  
We're awfully demanding... But I vote for screenshots, too.

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posted 06-25-02 03:59 PM CT (US)     5 / 30  
Wow! Great trick! Never knew that one.

BTW, I tried with 500, you get a small flame. If you damage it 1000 HP, it gets destroyed. If you try with 999, 998, etc., the bridges don't get on fire. But, if you damage 950 HP or something, the flames are large.


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posted 06-25-02 08:24 PM CT (US)     6 / 30  
Well, I read and knew about setting fire to bridges b4, but I never actually tried to use in anything like that. (Just plain burning bridges). Good Discovery!

Now, lets see 'em screenies.


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posted 06-26-02 09:07 AM CT (US)     7 / 30  
Grr...all right then

I'll edit this post today, post them screenies..and if there's more people who like it, I'll post my test scenario in the Blacksmith.


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posted 06-27-02 07:39 PM CT (US)     8 / 30  
I want to see the screens too

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posted 07-01-02 11:37 AM CT (US)     9 / 30  
*random muttering*Stupid upload server

If you want the scn i made them in. E-mail me : sshiva_98@yahoo.com


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[This message has been edited by Shiva (edited 07-02-2002 @ 09:20 AM).]

posted 07-01-02 02:18 PM CT (US)     10 / 30  
um....

Quoted from http://free.hostdepartment.com/shiva/Hotsp.jpg:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /shiva/Hotsp.jpg on this server.

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Apache/1.3.22 Server at free.hostdepartment.com Port 80

Quoted from http://free.hostdepartment.com/shiva/Volcano.jpg:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /shiva/Volcano.jpg on this server.

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Apache/1.3.22 Server at free.hostdepartment.com Port 80

Could you fix those links?


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posted 07-01-02 02:18 PM CT (US)     11 / 30  
I may not access then pictures according the server

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posted 07-01-02 02:21 PM CT (US)     12 / 30  
cool...same problem, same time...

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posted 07-02-02 00:29 AM CT (US)     13 / 30  
gah, i still get no credit for discovering that you can build monuments, yurts, statues, and just about everything else thats a building (including bridges)

It's so simple, all you do is place a foundation :/

posted 07-02-02 02:26 AM CT (US)     14 / 30  
do you know that since you can't kill monuments, it gets shifted when someone does a damage trigg on it?

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posted 07-02-02 09:23 AM CT (US)     15 / 30  
I got a new server, so the links work now..

[JPEG, (160.33 KB)]

Hot Springs ^^

[JPEG, (160.33 KB)]

Volcano ^^

I've got a couple people contacting me for the scn..so..heh..

[This message has been edited by Shiva (edited 07-02-2002 @ 10:00 AM).]

posted 07-02-02 10:32 AM CT (US)     16 / 30  
The volcano looks just like: a volcano!

and the hot springs? OH it looks like a VOLCANO too!

(fix da link lol)


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posted 07-02-02 02:19 PM CT (US)     17 / 30  
Hey i just thought of something - a Forest fire!

You do the same thing accept place trees all around the bridges and stuff.

I'm gonna make a utility on it right now, to prevent people from stealing my idea :P

And i'll include a better one in the 2nd upcoming eye candy template.

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posted 07-02-02 02:27 PM CT (US)     18 / 30  
You'll get bridge parts in a forest. Besides, bridges give water under them, making up for a swamp forest on fire. Kinda weird, no?

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posted 07-02-02 02:38 PM CT (US)     19 / 30  
well the nice vulcano's here

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posted 07-02-02 05:25 PM CT (US)     20 / 30  
go wild..this trick is for all to use
posted 07-05-02 07:46 PM CT (US)     21 / 30  
Hey, Shiva - have you tried removing the bridges after damaging them? Does this cause the water to appear, or fire on water?

Just curious (and too lazy to try it myself! )

That's something you could use, though - putting the fire out with water. It would look a little awkward - but I think it would work fine.


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posted 07-06-02 01:35 AM CT (US)     22 / 30  
Fantastic Discovery!

Thanks Shiva.


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posted 07-06-02 03:02 AM CT (US)     23 / 30  
actually not ALL removed bridges have water under em... what about the "ends" of the bridge? I think they make desert instead of water...

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posted 07-06-02 03:46 AM CT (US)     24 / 30  
Yes they do, and you can use this in a variety of ways.

for instance, you can create bridge ends around a lake to signify a drought where the lake is draining. if you don't like the "desert" that is created under them, create some buildings and remove them, or some trees, or whatever, and change the terrain. It could get really complicated...

posted 07-06-02 03:52 AM CT (US)     25 / 30  
pity I don't recall anything that creates grass tiles

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posted 07-06-02 09:19 AM CT (US)     26 / 30  

Quote:

actually not ALL removed bridges have water under em

I'm not sure that's right..

You're welcome Anastasia!

posted 07-06-02 10:14 AM CT (US)     27 / 30  
try it out in the editor Shiva, use triggs to remove bridge ends... then you'll see the desert tiles appear

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posted 07-06-02 02:48 PM CT (US)     28 / 30  
First of all, you cover the bridges with paths and flowers, then you damage them, they don't create water unless they are removed, which you don't do because you have to damage them to get them to catch on fire.

Download my Forest Fire thing and see for yourself http://aok.heavengames.com/blacksmith/byauthor.shtml?a=CheeZy_monkey0

posted 07-06-02 02:52 PM CT (US)     29 / 30  
Ive also discovered a neat scinerio trick check out my post!

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posted 07-06-02 03:05 PM CT (US)     30 / 30  

Quoted from Feanor Wyvern:

try it out in the editor Shiva, use triggs to remove bridge ends... then you'll see the desert tiles appear

Damn it, of course! I used to hate that, because I didn't want desert to appear on snow maps!


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