Do you know in some scenarios, when a unit speaks, a light green circle flashes under him/her. It looks like whan a unit changes ownership. Examples can be seen in campaigns such as the Nexus and Tamerlane, Prince of Destruction.

Hope you know what I mean. The point is, it lets you know what unit is speaking when the circle flashes under them. I works well, and you do it by changing ownership from them to you and you to them in the same trigger.

Green Circle, Yay or Nay?

I really like the green circles idea.

Is anyone on the design team good at triggers?

But, i know is made by changing his ownership twice.

Who will start map design for FOTR and TTT?

Well leign, If you can, design a map that takes you from the shire to bree, with stops like farmer maggot's place, and Hobbiton and bywater. I will send you a jpeg for approximate placing of the locations. I think the old forest would be a little too much for the scenario. When do you think you can finish?

Uhh, i tried to download metc last night, but i can't off the site! What are the units for all the main characters?

Also, before we start, all trigger people, do we use the green circle trick or not?

EDIT: Uhh, what is you e-mail leign?

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 03-24-2004 @ 04:27 PM).]

well then, i will be sending many of these PSDs so you know what the sc will look like.

anyone have any Ideas for the name of this scn?

I have an Idea for a list of campains:

The Hobbit

The War of the Ring (Duh)

maybe same things from the Silmarillion??

[This message has been edited by Endoras_the_Elf (edited 03-24-2004 @ 05:15 PM).]

The hobbit is a CPN someone can start on, any takers?

Well, We are going to make Individual CPNS for FOTR, TTT, ROTK. That could cover the War of the Ring. As for the Simarillion, I don't know if there are any buildings or Heroes made in METC for the Simarillion. I can be done (I think) With Grey Elves civ. (?)

Well, you could ask rommel if he wants help with map design.

EDIT: Leign, I need ur E-mail to send you the Image!

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 03-24-2004 @ 06:30 PM).]

You could try the Hobbit, or the simarillion if you read it. The rest of the Trilogy is being worked on.

PS: To those working on TTT and ROTK, I need a finish date you wish the first SCN to be accomplished by. (Good luck to you all!)

For campaign ideas, here are mine:

Campaigns:

The Hobbit:
-Prologue(Many Dwarves and One Wizard) <cutscene>
-Journey to Rivendell
-Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire
-Queer Lodgings <cutscene>
-The Old Forest Road
-Sting and Spiders
-Prison of the ElvenKing
-Return of the King Under the Mountain <playable cutscene>
-On the Doorstep
-Slaying of the Dragon
-A Thief in the Night
-Battle of Five Armies
-There and Back Again <cutscene>

Fellowship of the Ring
-Prologue(bilbo's party) <cutscene>
-Flight from the shire
-Flight to Rivendell
-The Council of Elrond
-Caradhras
-Moria
-Lothlorien <cutscene>
-Parth Galen

The Two Towers
-Prologue(departure of boromir) <cutscene>
-The Riders of Rohan
-Fangorn <cutscene>
-The King of the Golden Hall
-Helm's Deep
-The Voice of Saruman
-Taming of Smeagol <cutscene>
-The Passage of the Marshes
-Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit <cutscene>
-The Forbidden Pool
-Journey to Cirith Ungol
-Shelob's Lair
-Entering Mordor <cutscene>

Return of the King
-Prologue(shadowfax rides to minas tirith) <cutscene>
-The Paths of the Dead
-Battle of Pelennor Fields - Rammas Echor Breached
-Battle of Pelennor Fields - The Ride of the Rohirrim
-Battle of Pelennor Fields - The Coming of Aragorn
-Healing and Debate
-The Last March
-Samwise the Elf-Warrior
-Through the Land of Shadow
-Mount Doom
-Celebrations of Victory <cutscene>
-Scouring of the Shire
-The Grey Havens <cutscene>
-What happens after <cutscene>

The Coming of the Noldor
-Prologue <cutscene>
-The Disaster of Alqualonde
-Dagor-nuin-Giliath, the Death of Feanor
-The Seige of Angband <cutscene>

Beren and Luthien
-Prologue(betrayal of gorlim)
-A Wild Man
-Under the Woods of Neldoreth
-Finrod Felagund
-Finrod vs Sauron
-The Coming of Luthien
-Huan vs Sauron
-She is bind to you <cutscene>
-Confrontation of Morgoth
-Beren Erchamion, the One-Handed
-The Hunting of the Wolf
-The Choice of Luthien <cutscene>

Children of Hurin
-Prologue(Hurin's part in Nirnaeth Arnoediad) <cutscene>
-Childhood of Turin
-Turin and Doriath <cutscene>
-Turin's Exile
-A Band of Outlaws
-Mim's Betrayal <cutscene>
-The Hunt for Turin
-Agarwaen, son of Umarth, the Mormegil
-The Sack of Nargothrond
-Slaying of Brodda
-Mound of the Elf-Maid
-Of Morwen and Nienor <cutscene>
-That Ill-fated Riding
-The Tear-Maiden <cutscene>
-Slaying of the Dragon
-Of What Happens After <cutscene>

Independent Scenarios:

Here, we could just have scenarios of the big battles that existed in Tolkien's world, presented in a similar way as MCrnigoj's historical campaigns presented.

There could also be other independent scenarios that describe events which do not belong to the campaigns, such as the Ruin of Doriath, Fall of Gondolin, etc...

Descriptive Cutscenes:

These would be a few really long cutscenes explaining non-war stories, such as the Voyage of Earendil, Aldarion and Erendis, Ar-Pharazon and the fall of Numenor, Amroth, Nimrodel, Celegorm, Galadriel, The Council of the Wise and what they've done before "The Hobbit" and "Lord of the Ring", etc...

Multiplayer Battles:
These would be the battles in the Independent Scenarios modified for multiplayer.

Some of the names may not be good, if so, then change it. I assume that if you are interested in this thread then you would probably know enough of Tolkien's work to comprehend which scenario will cover which part of the story.

Remember, these are only ideas...

Edit: As far as I know, good campaigns take LONGER than just one or two months of work. It's also really painful to change something to the campaign once you are finished, so for every little issue with the campaigns you're making, I suggest posting them on the thread and make sure there's an unanimous agreement on it.

Also, set your standards high, a mod of METC's calibur only deserves campaigns that are rated at least over 4/5 in the blacksmith. Quality over Quantity, guys.

[This message has been edited by magna gb (edited 03-24-2004 @ 07:26 PM).]

About the fact that more than one person is working on a scenario, we have someone doing map design for the scenarios, someone doing triggerwork, etc.. all on the same scenario. All of the triggers are uniform. All of the map design is uniform.

Those are good campaign suggestions! Thanks mangna gb!

Oh well, my opinion is still one person per campaign, or maybe one person per scenario in the campaign, or if that's still too much maybe one person per section in the scenario in the campaign.

[This message has been edited by reich (edited 03-24-2004 @ 10:21 PM).]

Maybe we don't have to do the stuff in The Silmarillion, but that would be too bad since we'd be missing some of the best stories.

Lord Fadawah, I totally agree! We can compress 2 or 3 SCNS into 1 SCN, and have a campaign be 5 or 6 SCNs per CPN, like ES campaigns.

Endoras, you could find someone to do sounds and later you could fit them in ur CPN. I'm putting u on the assignments list.

Leign, I need to start FOTR, so I will start triggers and basic map design (so I can fit in the triggers). I will send you the finished and fully triggered scenario when you can reach me.

[This message has been edited by BIHSting (edited 03-25-2004 @ 04:01 PM).]

Anyway... I don't really think we should be compressing 2 or 3 scenarios into 1. If you're using the list I've made, then all I can say is good luck compressing the scenarios without erasing much detail. It's not very probable.

But never mind that, I;m getting Dlls from SF. I began designing the 1st scenario's basic map (Rivers, Forests, etc) When I get the DLLs, I will be able to start triggers.

[This message has been edited by Endoras_the_Elf (edited 03-27-2004 @ 12:10 PM).]

Those campaign layouts remind me of some campaign somebody (EO, I think) layed out as a joke.

[This message has been edited by LoserWithCoolName (edited 03-27-2004 @ 12:49 PM).]