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Topic Subject: Implode bug found

Eye of Iperion
Banned

posted 15 November 2003 06:39 AM EDT (US)

I was testing god powers on scenario editor. Well i make a test with the implode, i placed 150 (or more) countarious and around them 5-6 midgols (all of player 2).
I was player 1 and i grant me implode power and some lighthouses to see the enemy. But when i used the implode power it aspirated all countarious but didn't explode! It leaved all countarious under the ball and after that the ball disappeared! I have tested this many times and it happens 70% of the times. Maybe ES didn't test implode with so many units. Does it happen for you?

[This message has been edited by Eye of Iperion (edited 11-15-2003 @ 07:10 AM).]

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Minion_10
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posted 15 November 2003 08:51 AM EDT (US) 1 / 15

I remember this happening to me in the editor too, it also stopped sucking them in after awhile!! I used spearman though. but I dont think it's that big of a problem since most normal singleplayer or multiplayer games dont allow a player to get 150+ of any unit at a time.

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ajcan
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posted 15 November 2003 09:59 AM EDT (US) 2 / 15

I dont know if this is completly right, but here goes. (It has happened to me) I think the implode wont explode until all units in its radius have been sucked in. Thus if you have 150 guys that takes quite awhile, and the implode dosent last forever, it has a time limit, so eventually it will just give up on sucking every last guy in, and stop

Onimusha
Mortal

posted 15 November 2003 11:28 AM EDT (US) 3 / 15

Yes, It happened with me last week. I put over 50 Unites and I invoked the Implode god power. and it happed the same as you.

Eye of Iperion
Banned

posted 15 November 2003 01:22 PM EDT (US) 4 / 15

Anyway, it mustn't happen! ES please fix this!

GoldenShadow
Mortal

posted 21 December 2003 04:15 PM EDT (US) 5 / 15

is the damage implode does to buildings the full amount per building, or is the damage divided among all of them?

The_Ice_Titan_
Mortal

posted 21 December 2003 11:12 PM EDT (US) 6 / 15

While we are on the subject of implode bugs.....I have found another, this one is a bit bigger! When your units get sucked in you can delete them! Canceling out the damage they would normally do to ypou buildings! Ya I hope ES fixes this too, all you have to do is drag click over the ball (selecting your units) and delete them

I have never had the bug you guys are talking about happen to me though....

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SteelBlade
Mortal

posted 22 December 2003 04:37 AM EDT (US) 7 / 15

Its not a bug, implode has a time period, if the units are to many to be sucked in that time period it will not explode. Nothing wrong with the code, the timer should be longer or maybe this formula (number of units around casting point * time to suck a unit into the core = total time that implode needs to be active).

Sword Lover
Mortal

posted 22 December 2003 12:54 PM EDT (US) 8 / 15

another bug that I found with implode is that if a Mother Nature bird is sucked in the units will just stack in the middle and not be damaged or thrown because implode just stops because the birdy

cannot be sucked in

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GoldenShadow
Mortal

posted 22 December 2003 04:32 PM EDT (US) 9 / 15

why delete your units? you will get most of them back when it explodes,

odin_worshipper
Mortal

posted 22 December 2003 06:28 PM EDT (US) 10 / 15

i found out that bug too. the ball gets bigger and bigger, then dissapears, causing no damage to the units/building around it.

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Archaion
Mortal

posted 22 December 2003 06:37 PM EDT (US) 11 / 15

why delete your units? you will get most of them back when it explodes,

It's to decrease the damage to the buildings.

Jazzman_Pritch
Mortal

posted 23 December 2003 10:31 PM EDT (US) 12 / 15

You'll lose way more resources deleting your army than losing even a whole lot of buildings. Not to mention that even if you do delete your army and save every building you have your enemy will still have his army and just use that to knock down your buildings instead of the implode. Much better to just build further back during the gp andn while your army stalls his push after it.

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Zorn_Ot
Mortal

posted 23 December 2003 11:17 PM EDT (US) 13 / 15

Ive seen Implode used in a 3 vs 3 Total War Trojan Wall game -right in the middle. It lagged everything to death, but it went off. Whatever is happening in the editor most likely wont happen in gameplay. You dont get more units than a Total War game - no one needs an eco, so you have 6 players with pretty much all military.

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GoldenShadow
Mortal

posted 24 December 2003 03:06 AM EDT (US) 14 / 15

If it takes over 1 minute to suck up all the units, it won't explode.

Pascal9872
Mortal

posted 24 December 2003 03:19 AM EDT (US) 15 / 15

Well seeing as the most damage it will do to any one building is 600+10*#units up to a max of 1200 crush I believe. And it does 200 raw hack to each unit sucked in up to 3900 total hack damage, you really are not gaining much benefit by killing your units. Since by this time most of them can take 200 raw hack damage and survive.

Implode is best used on a large group of archers as they tend to have the least hack armor and least HP. Most infantry will survive because of armor and most cav will survive because of HP.

Back to buildings for a sec, implode will only do 5000 or so total crush damage and will not partially damage a building. In other words what I mean is it dished the amount of crush described above to each building it will stop delivering crush once it can no longer deliver the crush to a building without exceeding the maximum.

An easier example is against 5 barracks. A fully loaded implode will only damage 4 of these since it would need to go over 5200 or so crush to do the 5th (4800+ 1200). However, it will deliver crush to 4 barracks and a granary since 4800+400 is under 5200.

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