Okay, first of all, after every, conversion, you must take a rest of the same amount of time it would otherwise take the explorer to wait after uing a special ability, however long that is. You can convert 5 unit at a time, 10 with the explorer. The cost of converting a unit is variable. The food can be anywhere from 75 food to 300 and gold from 125 to 375. If you convert more units at one time, the cost increases based on a fixed base proce for that conversion. Priests can convert infantry, cavalry, and villgers. Explorers can convert infantry, cavalry, artillery, and mercenaries. Mercenries convert 50% faster than all other units. Artillery convert instantly. All other units take 30 seconds to convert.

How is it?

Do you remember that, to convert, you would need to click a priest, then select "conversation" (lol) and click on an unit? Now imagine 10 falconets firing, a lot of muskets being killed, how easy is to handle the slow monk to convert an unit, ability that would take at least 5 seconds? Don't look OP to me.

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OF course, you could convert from a large distance away from the unit with a priet. For the explorer, you woul need to be closer. A group of priests would convert faster. You would need to guard your priest, of course. But in the end, a conversion ability would be more useful if you send a small group to kill a few enemy ettler getting food or cutting forest. Or maybe a mall skirmih or if some enemy units come to you. There is no pint in taking 20 priets to the battlefield when you could have 20 soldiers.

But it's inevitable that they would die on the battlefield unless you make them invulnerable to attack when they're converting...

Don't think too high (everyone); I believe that half of your ideas wouldn't work. 2 priests converting faster than 1, for example, or price of conversion rising.

Give us your ideas, we would all love to hear the great ideas of Lord Tahattus.

Have you ever played RON? Spies have the "bribe" ability. Maybe it could be unlocked through a card.

No, I haven't played RoN, only AoK and AoE3. A card would be nice to unlock it. But after it's unlocked, how would it work?

In Rise of Nations, spies are, in fact, spies. They're terrible at fighting, but can be really disgusting. Actually, Aoe3 spies were copied from RoN.

They were not only stealthy, but they could bribe (convert) units by using gold and could instantly kill enemy spies by throwing a dagger against them.

Are there spies in AoE3 or TWC?

Priests and Explorers then could bribe for a cost of gold.

Sorry, I mean TWC spies.

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No Wololo?

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Maybe it's a good idea for improving explorers, since they become a bit useless at endgame; But historically, would that be correct?

Just Curious, what's wololo? I know it's a taunt but you all seem to refer to it as something ele.

And if you think of the Explorer as a governor in the lategame, then it would be historically accurate because all great leaders converted others to their cause and bribed mercenaries to gain soldiers.

In the original AoE, priests went Wololo. It's pretty amusing nowadays.

As a quick note, what kind of animation would be used?

Here it is, a very cool explanation.

Wololos are a must, sorry to say, but priests without wololo just suck.

Well, I've never played the original so...

Anyway, you probably could insert the wololo. I'm not sure how but it probably is possible.

As for animation, probably the heal animation, as they would be 'healing' the units by showing them the correct way and removing all their faults .

But any suggestions on my original idea at the top of page two?

We must have the Wololo, on whatever unit we do it.

And I still say that Bribing is the way to go, and having alot of priests and converting all of your enemies units would be bad, a build limit on whatever unit does the converting is a must, and must even then be very limited in its use, such as a recharge time that is 30 seconds or greater.

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my point, there is only like one or two explorer in the game per player, he/she/whoever could be used to bribe a single unit or a group of units, and it wouldn't be annoying to the point where the opposing player would hang themselves out of frustration because you converted too many of their units.

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the wololo is an easy sound to add, and even eaiser to program it in.

I think that,if we whant to be historical,the priests shouldnt convert military units(I never read about priests converting men in the battle).I think that pheraps only spies and explorers(If we think in he as a general) should convert,and only mercenaries(Mercenaries werent much loyal),there must be a recharge for the ability(long time),it should cost some/many gold,but i think that an area efect would be good(Mercenaries where hired/bribed in bands).
It would be more historical if the priest converted only cietizens and natives,I think
And I think that make the natives could get a convert ability,pheraps by building traps or bringing their War Chiefs near a very damaged european

well you guys go on ahead and keep arguing, I have no more comments to contribute. But in the meantime there is something else to discuss...

Age of Empires III Modding Competition

It is the start of the new year and the activity on the Forums has skyrocketed. This is a good time to get a modding competition going. Greater amounts of participation. The Rounds could be Bi-weekly, and there could be a prize for the first three place winners every week. Here is how I think it should go.

Rules (as I think they should be)

Council rules:::
The bi-weekly theme will be thought up by one of the modding council, or a moderator if they want to.

Someone on the Council must have an example screen or unit available when the round is posted so the people entering the competition can have an idea of what to do.

Council members can enter if they wish, but their scores only count if they are not planning to be a Judge and they probably wont get any prizes either.

Judges are to be voted in by the Modding Council before any of the rounds start. Three or Four judges should be a good amount. Judges can resign when they want and must give their mantle to another member of the modding council.

everyone elses rules:::
You may only enter one unit/screen per round.

You must turn in the screen on time. The round will not be extended because you didn't finish in time. You can either post it in the round's thread or e-mail it to a judge.

Your Score will be rated on a 1-5(or 1-10, doesn't really matter) scale by the Judges. No decimals unless the score is being averaged. Your Total score across all rounds will be shown at the top of the Page of each round thread along with an averaged score.

If you have a question, you can ask it in the Forums or in the Round's thread.

example of total scores:::

Bobbbo Ob
Total Score: 85(across 20 rounds added and averaged by the judges..)
Average Score per round: 4.25(total average)

example of score per round:::

Quoted from Lord Tahattus:

misc. rules
I think that we should use Screenshots instead of the actual files. It would be much easier for people to enter in this way. The Screen must be a reasonable size and must show the unit clearly with no other units on the screen unless there is a reason. If the competition calls for a different graphic, such as a Portrait or icon or even flags then the graphic must be in the same size that it will show as ingame. Having a good graphics card will not get you any points, the creativity you show in creating your graphic/unit is what will get you points.

It should be possible for no one to win if no one can get a high enough score as determined by the Judges.

Prizes
I think that the prizes should be as follows. We could do one of two things. We could give out prizes after a person obtains a high enough score from all of the rounds that this person has entered, or every round...

Prizes per score....

My last idea kind of sucked, anyone got ideas?

Prizes per round...

Not sure what these should be if this is what we do...

who I would like to see enter as a competitor:::

Freudy
Ashwin13
peugeot407
Clyde5269
and anyone else from here and anyone from the scenario design forums. I know you are out there!

People who wont recieve any prizes no matter how high their scores are (sorry but you are too good of modders...)
pretty much anyone on the council.
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yeah, anyone on the council pretty much.

There is my idea for a modding competition pretty much. What does everyone else think???

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Sorry to interrupt again, but bobbbo, take a .sm file (model file) from BFVietnam, convert it to a .3ds, and import it into AOE3, and you can see the little vertices that form little dots and they move around. In order to make it work, I'm going to have to connect the dots, but I'm a little stumped right now, but these vertices are showing up, so any of you are free to try it out.

Btw, sziggi and I did find a way to somewhat resize units, it's just really messy and it's for sure not surefire. :s Don't question my modding skills. I don't see anyone else making completely new objects, like fireworks and weather effects. ><

I was just asking questions about your claims. They are a bit farfetched and crazy at times.

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Hehe, no problem. Crazy and farfetched pretty well describes me.

Talking about competitions, this is how I think judgement should be done:

Lord Tahattus
> Graphics: 3.5 of 4, the contrast between colors is too agressive.
> Models: 1.5 of 2, The helmet you chose is not related at all to "ancient age".
> Creativity: 2 of 4, All other contestants showed us a gladiator.

Total: 7 of 10.

We all know that how suspicious units were judged at the last competition. My idea is to everything be well-explained. The unit will be jusged by itself, instead of being compared to the others:

> Graphics: 2 of 4, Lord Tahattus's skin is much better than yours.

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@bobbbo ob: you often worry about the fact that there are persons who aren't typing your name correctly. so it would be better if you don't forget the E...

peugeot407

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this is the one thing I left out, and also one of the more important things.

@Peugeot : Your name is spelled correctly now, and now I also randomly feel the need to Mock you...

Bobbbo Ob

Well Peugeot was right since your name isn't written in capital letters, if you want your name to be written in capital letters go to "my account" and then change your name to Bobbbo Ob

meh, its capital now. Bobbbo Ob

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