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irish_legend8
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posted 01-16-07 03:49 PM EDT (US) 51 / 105

id be happy to judge any competition because i dont have the time to enter
how about a screenshot competion of a unit from a certain era

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Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-16-07 04:14 PM EDT (US) 52 / 105

I know this is a free space, but 4 posts talking about capital letters is just ridiculous.

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id be happy to judge any competition because i dont have the time to enter
how about a screenshot competion of a unit from a certain era

About competitions, we should choose someone to take care of it. I'm busy, so i won't take that job.

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irish_legend8
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posted 01-16-07 04:20 PM EDT (US) 53 / 105

id be happy to

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Matthew Sher
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posted 01-16-07 04:32 PM EDT (US) 54 / 105

I'd be happy to judge or "take care of it" as well...it's easier than actually participating...

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irish_legend8
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posted 01-16-07 04:38 PM EDT (US) 55 / 105

yes it is want theme would be used do

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Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-16-07 04:54 PM EDT (US) 56 / 105

Sorry for saying that, but Imperiosus with his gigantic ability at skinning, that can only be matched by two or three of us, is the person I would choose to nicely judge any future competition. But let's not take care of this right now. Let's the Council strenghen itself first.

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Bobbbo Ob
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posted 01-16-07 05:52 PM EDT (US) 57 / 105

we do also need only 'one' person to manage all of the competition threads and keep track of everything that goes on in these competitions, like who entered, broke the rules, and keep scores.

This person doesn't really need to be a judge either..

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yes it is want theme would be used do

Council members should take turns at picking the theme. Whoever goes first is the person that goes first.

Arvedui
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posted 01-16-07 06:57 PM EDT (US) 58 / 105

The competition could help me get some work done for the mod...

Count me in!

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Bobbbo Ob
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posted 01-16-07 07:48 PM EDT (US) 59 / 105

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The competition could help me get some work done for the mod...
Count me in!

but...

Quote:

Let's the Council strenghen itself first.

before we start the first round. but that will likely start in the next few weeks anyways.

fordmaniac
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posted 01-17-07 09:52 AM EDT (US) 60 / 105

hmm.. weekly competions sounds fun

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Argalius
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posted 01-17-07 10:12 AM EDT (US) 61 / 105

With the previous contest some guys already complained that one week was too little for a unit. Imagine how much people you'll get to participate if it's done weekly. There are way too little people around for that to make it work.

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Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-17-07 10:23 AM EDT (US) 62 / 105

Nobody has creativity to organize a new competition every single week. Maybe, in the future, we could organize a competition every 2 weeks. Prizes? A golden star for the winner :P

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Bobbbo Ob
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posted 01-17-07 05:27 PM EDT (US) 63 / 105

I have the outline set up for competitions to be every two weeks. No one at Heavengames has the resources or time to do it every week.

Captain_Soanso
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posted 01-17-07 06:27 PM EDT (US) 64 / 105

It's best that the competitions last at least two weeks, and more would be a lot better. I, for example, have the opportunity to work only once every two weeks (explains my sluggish process, huh?). The timeframe could incorporate many more things for us too see too.

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irish_legend8
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posted 01-18-07 12:27 PM EDT (US) 65 / 105

hay id really like to see these competitions and work and while im replying has anyone anything that ye modders find annoying or would like to make something easier when putting mods together

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Argalius
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posted 01-18-07 12:35 PM EDT (US) 66 / 105

I'd like to see a program that doesn't just display the whole proto code of a unit, but rather shows the same tag of all the units that have it. So I can compare, for example, costs much easier. At the moment I have to browse through all the unnecessary code to compare them, although with this, the code would shrink roughly 50 times or so and I'd have all the units listed with the cost tag after one another so it'd look like this:
Unit A
Cost
Unit B
Cost
Unit C
Cost

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Ykkrosh
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posted 01-18-07 03:46 PM EDT (US) 67 / 105

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I'd like to see a program that doesn't just display the whole proto code of a unit, but rather shows the same tag of all the units that have it.

You don't need a program just to do that. Try creating a .html file with

<script>
var processor = new XSLTProcessor();
var xsl = document.implementation.createDocument("", "", null);
var xml = document.implementation.createDocument("", "", null);
xsl.addEventListener("load", function () { xml.load("proto.xml") }, false);
xml.addEventListener("load", function () {
processor.importStylesheet(xsl);
var doc = processor.transformToDocument(xml);
document.documentElement.appendChild(doc.documentElement);
}, false);
xsl.load("test.xsl");
</script>

and a test.xsl file with

<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform">
 <xsl:template match="/">
  <html>
   <body>
    <table border="1">
     <tr>
      <th>id</th>
      <th>name</th>
      <th>cost</th>
     </tr>
     <xsl:for-each select="Proto/Unit">
      <xsl:if test="Cost">
       <tr>
        <td><xsl:value-of select="@id"/></td>
        <td><xsl:value-of select="@name"/></td>
        <td>
         <xsl:for-each select="Cost">
          <xsl:value-of select="@resourcetype"/>: <xsl:value-of select="."/><br/>
         </xsl:for-each>
        </td>
       </tr>
      </xsl:if>
     </xsl:for-each>
    </table>
   </body>
  </html>
 </xsl:template>
</xsl:stylesheet>

and then put proto.xml in the same directory and open the .html file in something like Firefox. That gives a table like


id      name            cost
85      RiverFlow       Wood: 100.0000
86      RiverEdgeFlow   Wood: 100.0000
135     PropGrassFire   Wood: 100.0000
162     StartledBirds   Wood: 100.0000
...

which sounds like what you wanted.

(Edit: the preview ate my <script> and <html> and <body>; the post ate my tabs. Should be alright now.)

[This message has been edited by Ykkrosh (edited 01-18-2007 @ 03:49 PM).]

Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-18-07 04:27 PM EDT (US) 68 / 105

Ykkrosh, excellent post, please put it in golden colors, so we can link it at "important links" :P

Not needed though... it's just to keep the thread nice!

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Ykkrosh
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posted 01-18-07 05:41 PM EDT (US) 69 / 105

I'm not editing that post again - there's at least two bugs with this forum software that break that particular post and require manual fixing every time I change it, and I'm far too lazy

(Incidentally, that code seems to randomly not work some of the time in Opera, and I'm not sure why. In some cases it may be easier to skip the .html file and modify a copy of proto.xml so it starts with

<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xml" href="test.xsl"?>
<Proto version ='9'>
...

and then open the .xml file directly.)

Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-18-07 05:48 PM EDT (US) 70 / 105

Okay, it's already in "important links"...

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Elpea
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posted 01-19-07 00:53 AM EDT (US) 71 / 105

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(Incidentally, that code seems to randomly not work some of the time in Opera, and I'm not sure why. In some cases it may be easier to skip the .html file and modify a copy of proto.xml so it starts with

I was going to suggest that. A while back I wrote an online proto/techtree/someotheraomXMLfiles editor. You would create new units or edit old ones then save it. When all your changes were made, you could download the entire new proto file already modified to your needs. This worked online with teamwork in mind, so everyone would do their edits and people could download the new XML file builds whenever they wanted. This also modified the techtrees and other files accordingly.

I had a working version and all that was missing was a login/register/project management code to go on top of it. I then lost the code from reformats and etc. I wish I still had time to remake something like that.

Argalius
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posted 01-19-07 08:17 AM EDT (US) 72 / 105

Thanks for the code, Ykkrosh. The problem is though, it does work with the original proto but not with my modified one, any idea why that could happen? It does show 'id name cost', but nothing more. Could it be caused because I went from ID 625 to 800 and on? Also tried the xml-stylesheet type="text/xml" href="test.xsl", but that gave the same result.
EDIT: Nevermind I worked it out, it was because of the capital letters, which my modified version didn't use.

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irish_legend8
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posted 01-21-07 08:10 AM EDT (US) 73 / 105

what do ye think of a modders council chat room for anyone online to chat and organize things

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Lord Tahattus
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posted 01-22-07 03:39 PM EDT (US) 74 / 105

Priest: I simply can't make the priest convert an unit. Although I can mod the "convert guardian" ability, I cannot create a completely new one. Aoe3 does not allow me to create a new "ConvertGuardian" ability to use as base for "Conversion"; If I create it, both abilities stop working. Strange, since you can find two "CrackshotAttack" abilities that don't conflict.

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Abadu
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posted 01-23-07 09:28 PM EDT (US) 75 / 105

But Lord Tahattus,isnt it possible to,if you cancel the original convert guardian(get rid of the WC),the modded convert guardian ability wouldnt work?