How did Ingo van Thiel do the icebreaker trick in Gyda's Challenge?

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One submission doesn't make you a trigger master. There might be other aspects that might make you good. Almost all experienced scenario designers are "trigger experts".

*Frowns*

awnswers to questions

darkmaster: if u are asking about individual senarios, plz describe the trick that u want to be taught how to do. thank u

angel luke: i do not understand

K0J_jkol0: Darkmaster is being sarcastic, he doesn't want to know how to dot he trick, he wants you to explain it, since you're the so-called "trigger-master".

*Frowns* means that he looks angry in the direction of Darkmaster and if he does this often he will get furrows on his forehead.

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How do you create invisible farms?

Still not sure how to do this...

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@ KeLar

Good move.

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I know the answer...but we'll see how the trigger expert fares.

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I don't know how to do it*! Why are you assuming things? You know the rhyme.

_{*Or, do I?}

[This message has been edited by Darkmaster (edited 12-31-2002 @ 00:18 AM).]

LOL... I am enjoying this post for some reason.

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Nobody answer any question in this thread. Let KOJ_jkol0 answer it, since it is his thread. I am interested to hear the answer.

[This message has been edited by Aro (edited 12-31-2002 @ 06:33 PM).]

Whenever I try the invisible farms I get blinking farms!

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ROFLMAO!

I would love to explain or teach u guys how to do invisible farms if i knew what the %$^#& u guys r talkin about. i am not fimilar with such terms as "invisible farms" plz forgive me. if u want me to explain an unfimilar phemonina, plz describe what happens. ie: "how did my unit get hurt? it was just standing there, and suddenly it's HP was lower, and after a little bit it died" THAT i can awnswer. in conclusion, plz include discription w. ur question thank u.

p.s. dont try to "stump me by asking questions u already know the awnswer to. ur just wasting string space. if u have any other questions that u would rather send by email, plz do so

[This message has been edited by KOJ_jkol0 (edited 12-31-2002 @ 01:22 PM).]

KOJ_jkol0, "invisible farms" is a pretty straightforward description, don't you think?
In conclusion, you should never asume you're an expert on anything. This is my advice for you, not only here in AoKH but for real life as well.

Just let this thread die down if you do not have a question.

[This message has been edited by Aro (edited 12-31-2002 @ 06:36 PM).]

An invisible farm is a trick that removes the farm terrain but it is still there and you can still farm it.

Um. Just download these for Invisible farms.

Invisible farms by CkhChaos

Neat Trick's I by Philip Dunscombe

I hope that answers your question KOJ_jkol0.

In a way its very difficult to rate yourself as in skill in the editor. By saying you are an expert you have achieved and performed everything possible in the scenario editor easily, although people such as Philip Dunscombe (Did I spell that right?) discovered all these neat tricks, and probably people before his discoveries called themselves experts too. People called him a wiz, but he had humbly replied that name. I did plenty of research at TRT but that certainly does not make me a history wiz either. Point is, there are so many areas and secrets today within the editor its hard to call yourself the official name of "AOKTC editor expert",not to mention creativity. Now hopefully nobody will start pushing buttons again in this thread nor will anyone pontificate that they are an expert when its an assumption.

Luke said it before but Happy New Year's.

Darn, NN. You should have let him answer it. I am sure he would want to since this thread's title is 'ASK Jkol WHY!!!! all ur questions about triggers+more!!'. Oh well. Good that you did so anyways.

Happy new years.

[This message has been edited by Aro (edited 12-31-2002 @ 06:36 PM).]

Yes. I have the utility but I still can't follow those instructions right. Maybe if I just looked at his triggers...

Create a looping trigger that creates a farm. Set the location in the middle of an existing farm. (To do this, you will need to move the farm temporarily or create the farm after the trigger.) Then kill the original farm, with or without triggers. Voila!

ok, everyone here just awnswered the invuisible farms question before i was able to post this messeage. i just dicovered that all u need to do is the classic "remove object into trigger creation loop" (roitcl)(advanced terminology only used by masters) as awnswerd by the guy above me.

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LOL. There is no such thing as "Masters Terminology".

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LOL. I had no clue the "roitcl" was worthy enough for a name. What other uses does it have, master?

I think his definition of "Trigger Master" is "Person who figured out what the triggers do". I do not think he knows about the various trigger tricks like The Editorbuilder.

[This message has been edited by Aro (edited 12-31-2002 @ 06:34 PM).]

Either you know triggers or you don't, simple as that.

I think he was expecting questions like, "How do you change the name of a unit?" The only problem is that we all know what triggers do, and many of us know how to do the advanced trigger tricks, such as Invisible Farms, crating "water"/land, invisible barriers, etc.

Knowing triggers is 1 thing. Knowing trigger tricks is different.

Trigger tricks are when you know how to use the triggers. While knowing triggers, you just know what they do. Just because you know how they work does not mean you know how to do tricks with them.

But I agree with you anyways.

[This message has been edited by Aro (edited 12-31-2002 @ 06:33 PM).]

OMG n00bs! You guys don't even know what "roitcl" stands for?! Jkol's obviously the only trigger master in this forum...

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LOL @ RoboPaul88

I know. I just wish I was a trigger master.

Good joke, Robopaul (nice to see you, btw), but please add a smiley to show that you're being sarcastic. Whole arguements have sprouted over that...

Sry

No problem. There was little harm/risk involved, but I personally like to see a smiley where sarcasm is.

very funny guys, u people are a riot. 29 messages, and not a single question, ok,ok "roitcl" was made up terminology to make me sound cool, but plz from now on, ask me VALID questions. thank u. and also i am not a guy who JUST knows what triggers do. i DO know lots of tricks! stop tryin to make me look bad!

HAPPY NEW YEARS

[This message has been edited by KOJ_jkol0 (edited 12-31-2002 @ 07:33 PM).]

n e ways, i dont mind a little critisisim but i DO want to ATLEAST see a 5:1 critisisim/question ratio (more terminology) once again, u people are a riot. (i dont even mind missin simpsons once in a while now! )

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ps. did u know that if u highlight a happy face () it turns sad? thats SO cool!

If you highlight a , it looks japanese (not to sound like a racist or anything).

IMHO, although it was kind of you to create this, I don't think there's anyone in this forum who will actually need this thread (besides, that's what the forum is for).

Btw, for your ratio, what does off-topic count as?

P.S. "pridictable" is spelled "p-r-e-d-i-c-t-a-b-l-e."

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