Whenever a unit dies, it loses its HP bar. He remains on the map for a couple seconds after that.

If you notice, when you delete a transport, you can still click it and see all the units inside headed to their doom. They have no HP bar if you look. What's interesting is that Cobra said he clicked on them to unload and they did. I can't repeat that, even with lag.

Heroes, however, gain HP over time and can be saved when garrisoned inside of a Tower.

Quote:

All units heal when garrisoned inside a building, not only heroes.

seen it, done it... next....

Quote:

Reread the topic post AND the title of this thread ("Instead of 0 HP, no HP at all!", showing that he is aware of the 0 HP trick).

He says that the HP bar disappears. When you use the 0 HP trick, the HP bar doesn't disappear (in the UI) and it shows the unit's normal/max HP, but what he describes is NOT the 0 HP trick.

Trigger 0:
no
on
no
Condition 0:
whatever
Effect 0:
Change Object HP (-)negative units amount
Effect 1:
Damage Object (-)negative units amount

I found this long ago, and posted it before...it was over shadowed by Philip Dunscombe's teaser of the Zombie Units, with 0 LOS...

...I don't think he ever gave the trigger set out?

*missing Philip*

As for the scenario, you can find it under Multiplayer section, AoK only, by Kevingamer Prime.

*pretends to miss Philip*

*really wants his trigger tricks... *

The trick was to use the erase units effect and erase the sides of the wall. Then it would look like a wall with no giant pillars next to it.

Actually, I am not that great at explaining. Download "Wall Tricks" by deathdart to see what I mean.

it lookes like a bug

p.s. can anyone rate mine? please help!

[This message has been edited by kevingamer prime (edited 02-03-2003 @ 08:10 PM).]

one day, i was playing a regular game, and i had a bunch of bombard cannons near my transport ship. i loaded the b.cannons onto the ship just as one was killed. i had 3 bombard cannons, but on the ship, there was 3 pictuers of bombard cannons, but the garisson says 2/20! as soon as i unloaded the ship, 2 bombard cannons comes out, and another comes out, and dies imeadiatly!

???

As for unit with no LOS, I never seen it in AOK, but I'm guessing that the effect is the same as the mercenaries (editor only unit) in AOE.

I think he knows that trick, which is a few months old. I mentioned that. The title says, "Instead of 0 HP...", and the trick that you stated is the 0 HP trick.

About the trick...

Place a villager or any other garrisonable unit adjacent to a garrisonable building. Then, when running the map, press pause. Select the unit, press delete, select the unit again (if it gets deselected), then press ALT+Right click on the building. Unpause the game, and then select the building. You'll see that the unit has no HP.

@magna gb:
That's the bug that happens when you kill a wall or house with triggers.

In as much as the topic is about not having certain stats appear, such as "doesn't have a HP bar below his picture!" and the no HP occurrence discovered by The_Cobra_81, I thought I would add the way to remove the 'green life bars' easily, with one trigger, and still have the units remain playable.

Perhaps, I'm missing something?

I have seen a unit in screenshot on Philip's maps with 0 LOS, and the map appeared to be totally dark and the selected unit's stats read 0/0 in the lower display. I often thought that the effect was not created entirely in the editor, but a combination of editor and in game manipulation. So this discovery of 'no' HP could hold the key to creating the 'Zombie' units.

My question is what do the stat fields (i.e., 0/40) read?

ahm yes well I noticed that the picture that was included with the trick is removed... The Trick makes the HP line dissapear. When it says 0 hp you will see no HP at all. Not even 0/0

Atleast if you do it right. There are 2 ways for changing the HP. You can make it 0/??? (??? = amount of HP the unit normally has), But you can do it like this that the HP life thing disapears ( that is the trick that is given in the trigger trick guide)

So my statment stays. Nice fine but been there, done that, next...

Nice to see this place is doing well, This trick has been beaten to death then resurrected and beaten to death again "Literally".

FYI the trick was explained eventually in the forum, so I did not think I had to explain it fully once more. Look back to ancient posts it is their in a very large trick guide I can’t remember the exact one unfortunately.

I agree about this trick though; I've read this forum a couple of times before I registered so that's why I know. Now that this time isn't as anarchic as it was last summer, perhaps we can build much more. See this thread. It's got plenty of radical remarks lashing out on Philip condemning him on his "silence", but plenty of clues nontheless.

Willing to oblige,

NN.

[This message has been edited by NightNecromancer (edited 02-06-2003 @ 06:00 PM).]

The Editorbuilder...did I do it wrong? I didn't have 0 LOS.

Edit: Unfortunately, using the way I did it, you're left with an even bigger "revealed spot" on the map. I did it by garrisoning a bunch of pikemen in a tower and deleting the tower. Rinse and repeat about 8 times. You're left with some sort of "God." (It's actually a strange effect that occurs when you stack about 40 pikemen on top of each other.) I then map copied this "God" unit in a big square. If the player deletes enough of them, suddenly all the units have 0 LOS. The only problem is, once the units moves to a different square, that particular unit regains his sight.

[This message has been edited by zyxomma100 (edited 02-07-2003 @ 00:24 AM).]

With "Marco"/"Polo"
Without "Marco"/"Polo"

[EDIT] Philip NEVER revealed that trick! He planned to reveal it in "Neat Trick's II", but he never did release that tutorial, so it is only known by him (or anyone else who has discovered it).

[This message has been edited by Darkmaster (edited 02-07-2003 @ 00:32 AM).]