Greetings, Designers. Many people in the past have been wondering why we could never really place archers on top of walls to fire upon the enemy from. While creating a Helm's Deep template for someone, I managed to discover my own little trick on creating an illusion for this. Here is the process...

Step 1: Simply create a row of walls like you would for any other scenario. I prefer using the beta walls with map copy though. I feel it looks a bit better.

Step 2: Use the map copy tool to create a row of bridges behind the walls. This is supposed to represent the stone floor atop of the walls. Make sure you are using bridge ends, because using middle pieces will give you a row of water once the scenario starts.

Step 3: Place a row of stone walls along the back of the bridge. Then using a trigger, use the damage object effect to damage the row of stone walls by 1700. This will downsize them when the game starts.

Step 4: Using the cliff tool, place a straight line of cliff right through the beta walls, which should also cover about half of the bridge. Cliffs can go through anything, and the point of this is to baricade the archers from going right in front of the walls, and showing their outline. This will keep the archers "On Top" of the wall. The only downside to this is that melee units will not be able to attack the walls, because the cliff is in the way. Seige Weapons are more appropriate anyway, IMO. If any pieces of cliff are still showing, just use the rotation trick to hide them.

Step 5: Since units cannot be placed on bridges inside the editor, you will have to just use map copy to place them on the Stone Floor (Bridge). Just be careful you don't paste it right in the middle, or you might delete the bridge.

Here is an example...

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Have fun!

[This message has been edited by Master Echuu (edited 08-29-2003 @ 11:13 AM).]