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posted 12-15-11 09:51 PM CT (US)   



Quiet, please! Mister the deputies, could you stop immediately this din? We are civilized people, if I am not wrong. Misters! I said: SILENCE! Thank you.

Now, sit down and listen to me one moment before to continue to tear each other apart. First of all, welcome to the Age of Kings Heaven Parliament. You are currently in the heart of our dear democraty, the place in which (bribed) representatives of the people will discuss (and most of the time, to row to each other) and work for the progress of the society (when they are not occupied to recieve bribes). Here is the place to speak, obviously, about politic (or laugh of it), but also about economy, international diplomacy and everything related to these topics. As long that you speak loud, if you want that somebody heard you trought all those savage elected representatives.

The idea of this thread come from a political discussion in the Splash Splash. Quickly, forummers started to organize themselves in parties, and we saw appearing movements like the Bassian Despotist Party, the Revolutionary Anarchist Faction and the Central Democrats. The only thing that was missing: a thread to host their (bloody) debates.

So what are you wainting for to jump in this pitiless struggle?

I declare the assembly opened!

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Current parliamentary activity


Spamming Making some advertising for the parties

Yes, mister the deputies. Now, it is the time to prepare your weapons for possible elections. But, before that, you should try to give some visibility to your party. What does it means? Oh, well... That is pretty simple: it means that it is the time to use a bit your creativity, and to flood the Parliament with banners and electoral posters. And even the rest of the Heavens, if you wish. But keep that in mind: everybody in AoKH, since now, should know the existence of your party.

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Enacted Laws


Law 2012-01

Whereas the number of parties created recently in the Parliament, and that some of them seems nearly inactive, now, therefore, the AoKH Parliament, by and with the advice and consent of the deputies, enacts as follows:

1. All the parties represented in the Parliament should have submited an electoral platform to the host of the thread.

2. Their platform should be accepted by the host of the thread, and added to the topic post.

3. The platform of each party should be submited before March 1st, at 11:59 PM, forum time.

4. In the case that one of the party don't respect one of of the previous dispositions of the law, it will be declared inactive, and all its members will be send in the nearest party on the political compass, at the exception of its leader.

5. A party set as inactive, according with the paragraph 4, can become active again if its leader submit a platform for it, and that the deputies accept by a vote the reinsertion of the party.

6. The provisions of this Act come into force in February 12th, 2012, at 11:59 PM, forum time.


Law 2012-02

Whereas the AoKH Parliament acknowledges the departure of respected and longstanding community members due to pressure due to offline commitments, therefore, the AoKH Parliament, by and with the advice and consent of the deputies, enacts as follows:

1. An institute will be created by the Parliament to offer support to the forummers, which will take the form of a staffed drop-in centre always ready to offer a helpful ear to anyone, and called the Community Welfare Crisis Service (or CWCS).

2. The Community Welfare Crisis Service shall be comprised of persons giving their time on a voluntary basis. The volunteers themselves may host whatever means of assistance they are capable of giving, using the forum software or any external means. The volunteers may be comprised of members from any (or no) party, and may not use facilities set up primarily for CWCS use to advertise or advocate any party in Parliament.
The CWCS shall be accessed by those who require it as and when it is necessary. It will be linked to, but not actively advertised.

3. An observatory role will be given to a member of the Parliament, chosen by the assembly of deputies (which is, in this case Popeychops), in all new activities ordained for CWCS application.

4. Amendments to CWCS legislation may be passed by simple majority of MPs, after proposal in Parliament by any MP.

5. The CWCS is provided "as is", any complaints with regard to the service provided may be submitted to the AoKH moderation team if the Code of Conduct has been breached. Any other disputes must be settled between CWCS volunteer and CWCS recipient.

6. Suggested initial policies of the CWCS include, but are not limited to:

A revival of dying threads at SD&M, including, but not limited to:

A mailing list for designers to chat outside the forums, where they can type in one group conversation about anything and everything. Out of forum communication is one way of strengthening community bonds and forging lasting friendships.

A buddy system, where aspiring designers can pair up with an experienced designer and get them to look over a file and offer assistance, tuition, playtesting and peer-reviewing.


7. CWCS is a serious proposition to help designers in genuine need of assistance or pastoral care from the community. Our membership is our most treasured possession, great than any forum software or award-winning scenarios. As such, the spirit of the act crosses party boundaries and should not be used for personal gain. No payment in due or in kind may be received for offering assistance under CWCS.

8. The provisions of this Act come into force in March 3rd, 2012, at 11:59 PM, forum time.


Law 2012-03

Whereas the creation of the Age of Kings Heaven Parliament created a place where political discussions and semi-serious topicscan be discussed,and whereas this thread is destined to become big for sure, a need has arisen about how the hosting of this thread will be managed. So,therefore, the AoKH Parliament, by and with the advice and consent of the deputies, enacts as follows:

1. The Parliament thread is not a place where spam and immaturity is to be accepted. There is Splash Splash for this kind of posts.

2. About the thread:

2.1. The post limit of the Parliament thread will be of 2500 posts.

2.2. Each new Parliament thread will be a named a Parliament Assembly. This being Assembly I, the next being Assembly II and so on.

2.3. The thread must contain:
The Parliament Logo
Current Parliament Activity Section
Political Compass of the Parties
Parties Section (Platform and Members)

3. About the host:

3.1. The host must a capable and mature forummer, that will be responsible for the maintainance of the Parliament and moderating the discussion, with the collaboration of the Forum moderators when it's required.

3.2. The host will be elected by the community when the Parliament thread is about to reach it's time limit.

3.3. The host must be fair and not prejudice and/or abuse it's authority over the Parliment members.

3.4. The host is to be called the Secretary of the Parliament.

4. About host elections:

4.1. The candidates for hosting will be running independently from their party, so that a party can't say it "owns" the thread.

4.2. The actual host will establish a deadline for the voting, preferably between 1-2 weeks. For the voting session to start there must be enough candidates for this to proceed, this limit is up to the host.

4.3. The host will be elected by majority of votes. When the Parliament thread reaches it's voting deadline, the voting session will be closed and the votes will be counted. The most voted candidate will be the next host.

4.4. A host can't vote, unless there is a tie for the first position, in which case he will be the tie-breaker.

4.5. A host can't run the thread two times in a row. He must allow for someone else to host after him, so he can run for hosting again.


5. About campaigning for elections:

5.1. Promotion made by the candidates to get votes should be made only in the Parliament thread, so there is less spam in the rest of the forums.

5.2. Negative propaganda about other candidates is frowned down and will not be well recieved.

5.3. Breaking the above two subsections will be taken as the leaving host thinks is correct.


6. The provisions of this Act come into force in March 16th, 2012, at 11:59 PM, forum time.

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AoKH parties



Social Arocratic Party

Leader: Aro (who else?)
Members:
Ser Periagil
Sarn

Revolutionary Anarchist Faction
Leader: Guard of Osiris (no leader for anarchists!)
Members:
Guard of Osiris
RladalFatih
Black Euroqueb/eurotool
panel
Mozzarella Man

AoKH Socialist Party
Leader: Popeychops
Members:
CarolKarine
Dead_End
danielpereira
RedHandedJill
Draconian Devil
BF_Tanks

Stalinist Super-Stalin Party
Leader: Felix36
Members:
Tetsuo Shima
GeneralTheBeast

Reactionnary Royalist Party
Leader Megalomaniac king: fr steve
Members:
Scud

AoKH Libertarian Party
Leader: Dementor561
Members:
offwo200
TitanKing

Independant Representative
Mithril Knight

Zombie Party (inactive)
Leader: Yokai

Bassian Despotist Party (inactive)
Leader Cruel despot: Lord Basse

Artisans Congress (abandonned)
Leader: Draconian Devil

... and their position on the political compass




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Platform of the parties


Here are presented the lies promises of each party if they are elected. Because what is a party if it don't want to change something if it take the power? A party that win its elections? Uh... Yes, it is not false... But forget that. We are not in a boring democratic country in which politicians have forgot what the word "change" means. No: we are in the AoKH Parliament, and here, people are ready to fight tooth and nail for the improvement of these forums. So read, and judge by yourself.


Social Arocratic Party

The Arocratic Party, established in 2004, is the earliest and most awesome party in existence. It's sort of like the one party you went to in high school that you had a lot of fun at until you woke up. Some call it the "Fu**ing Old Party", but we prefer the "Old Fu**ing Party".

We propose:

- Forced government admission that the majority of AoKH are, in fact, smurves of Aro. Thus, Aro *is* the 99%.
- Eviction of Ryan Falstead from Apartment 6 in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. That asshole.
- Routine orgies in Splash Splash.
- Hedonism declared an inalienable right, rather than a sporadic privilege.
- The right to bare arms. Especially the armpit.
- Exclusive rights for people who's names start with A to kick the ass of AoKH Libertarian Party members who can't write poetry.
- State religion that worships Aro exclusively, instead of this God fellow he always had to content with (and Fadawah).
- Ending non-existent forum registration fees immediately.
- Removal of n00bs quickly and with force. THE EYE OF ARO IS UPON YOU, MAYANK!


Revolutionary Anarchist Faction

The world goes on the wrong path, and nobody try to make it change,
Always the same problems, always the same injustices, created by a corrupted system,
Always the same promises and lies, and the same revolutions that the power bribe,
The time has come to free people minds, to follow a new road,
And to make crumble the fundations of this world that have a death wish.


We propose:

- To make Age of Kings Heaven independant of Heaven Games, what will allow us to reinvest the wealth created by advertising in our community, for its improvement.
- To allow to everybody who wish it to become an angel, if he is judged able to fill this task by the community.
- To cut the job of moderator, and create a tribunal, in which people accused of could be juged in equity by a jury composed of forumers, and defended by a lawyer. (which could be a discharged Cherub). We are opposed to the actual system, based on arbitrary condemnations.
- To allow to everybody to chose freely his custom title.
- To create a government of collaboration, in which every deputy would be listened, and each suggestion, considered. We also want to create a popular assembly where all the forumers could present their opinions to the Parliament members.
- To encourage the artistic creation, like scenario design, and promote the creation of articles in the university, to share the knoweldge to all the community.


AoKH Socialist Party

On behalf of the 99%, we stand for equality, freedom and justice for all.
We seek to rectify the discrimination that exists in the heart of capitalism; discrimination against the poor.
With a state that takes from the rich and gives to all, none shall be impoverished!
Join the AoKH Socialist Party, and live in a society working for the benefit of all!


We propose:

- A graduated income tax based on the value of reviews / comments recieved per annum
- A free review for all files without one
- Support for designers working hard to provide for a family of three or more scenarios
- Continued hosting of meritocratic competitions and encouragement for high-quality scenario design
- Abolition of custom titles, or their extension to all
- Election of the moderators by popular consent, pending administrative approval
- The spread of Age of Empires to our working brethren in other heavens!

Stalinist Super-Stalin Party

Our manifesto is available here

We propose:

- To plant a Stalin Tree in the centre of forums.
- to replace the maps of the world with more accurate alternatives that do not include the ridiculous ideas of countries other than AoKH.
- 'The Communist Manifesto' by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and 'Microwave for One' by Sonia Allison compulsory reading at all levels.
- To paste propaganda... mindlessly... everywhere.
- All fruit will be reshaped to look like Stalin.


Reactionnary Royalist Party

Members of Age of Kings Heaven show a too much important lack of discipline. Mods abuse of their power to close entertaining threads, while some lost sheep don't know who to choose to guide them through this forum. That is why the king Steve I has decided to be the guide of AOKH.

We propose:

- To elect ministers to settle the AOKH policy efficiently: the ministries to aspire are : Speech, Elections, Mafia, Designing, Modding, University, Artificial Intelligence, War and Propaganda.
- To give the power of AOK Heaven to the king, so that he can decide with his council of ministers what decision to take within a trouble.
- To give a custom title to heroes, id est to people having shown their devotion to the king by an act of bravery.
- To create a jurisdiction to judge, within AOKH, people having shown a misbehaviour towards the community.
- To allow petitions to the attention of the king for a member request.
- To allow a special section of languages, that would allow non-English speaking (as mother language) people to speak in another language with other members. A translation would be necessary only if the king decides it.
- To promote modding by investing in performant tools to ease units/buildings modding thanks to a panel of designers and data-specialists. A modding contest will be organized every year or trimester depending on its success.
- To create a financial assistance for people who can't buy a microphone.


Artisans Congress

Live under our rule, and you will see glory!!
Our talents will take this state/country, to the heights of
wealth and glory.
Become a member of our party, cause we are all brothers and sisters, who are bonded by the word, ART!!.


We propose:

- To produce 3 good single player scenarios every year.
- To produce 4 good multiplayer scenarios every year.
- To produce 5 good random maps every 3-4 months...
- To complete at least 2 of the above conditions.
- To host many competitions in a year.
- To have a daily news section which will be related to all of us and all our comments, whose editor will be the forummers who live in England.
- To avoid spamming if possible or maybe not?
- To give all our brothers and sisters on these forums a place of equality.
- To complete at least 3 of the give 4 above.
- To have all the Heavengames play AOK and AOK:TC!!!


AoKH Libertarian Party

We shall always promote freedom!
Control will be denied
Don't live in an Arocratic kingdom
or the Socialist who have lied


We propose:

- Elections for Moderators.
- Moderators may not ban a person without consent of two thirds of the other moderators.
- Moderators can be overthrown with a two thirds vote against them.
- That we will kick ass!
- That their will be no state religion.
- We will never declare war!
- The rules of a forum may be changed by the people.
- Their will be no king or president. Hey, you steal the ideas of anarchists! I will not accept it!

"Freedom is not given, it is taken." - Kropotkin

If you like historical scenarios, look at my 1453-The Last Siege of Constantinople in the Blacksmith.

[This message has been edited by Felix36 (edited 11-07-2012 @ 02:17 PM).]

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posted 06-03-12 07:11 PM CT (US)     776 / 795  
F**k capital punishment !
F­**k capitalism !

𝓎𝑒𝓈, 𝒾 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓅𝑒

[This message has been edited by Tetsuo Shima (edited 06-03-2012 @ 07:14 PM).]

posted 06-05-12 11:50 AM CT (US)     777 / 795  
I know it's a rather unusual request but if there's a mod reading this, could they please edit Eurotool's post a little more. I know the purpose of editing it was just removal of swearing but the actual content is rather a blemish on this thread. I don't particularly like our intelligent discussion thread containing troll 'noise' as I would call it. The post just looks damn silly.

If it's no trouble.
posted 06-15-12 01:03 PM CT (US)     778 / 795  
Hmm... so that was ignored. Thanks Seb!
Now...

This has come up on a Russian news website. In it, the Russian government has banned gay pride marches for one hundred years. The questions I find myself being asked by this follow.

1) Is it the place of a supposedly secular government to ban something like Gay Pride? Would they take the same opposition to Heterosexual Pride, or a religious pride march? How can a government discriminate against just homosexuals?

2) One hundred years is a long time. Can a government, anywhere, believe that their own belief is so significant or important that it should be imposed for a hundred years? Do they not think that thought could change in that time?

3) Thirdly, this is a modern Russia. Russia is still in a state of trying to get over the mis-use of communism that occurred throughout the twentieth century. What message is this sending out to the world? Is it the message they actually want to send out to the world?

4) Further building on this, what does it say about Putin? He has been criticized by the west for being undemocratic amongst other things, but now he seems to be firmly taking an authoritarian stance over his people and imposing that he knows best. Is he really progressing?
posted 07-28-12 06:41 PM CT (US)     779 / 795  
Bump!

Where are you Rladal?

You forgot about your Parliament.

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¡Viva México!
My Coat of Arms
posted 07-28-12 07:06 PM CT (US)     780 / 795  

Quote:

posted 06-15-12 01:03 PM ET


It seems no-one here is particularly interested in Russian politics.

Quote:

Bump!


I was thinking about bumping this to ask about Rladal but I would have been triple posting.

So... thanks!
posted 07-28-12 07:33 PM CT (US)     781 / 795  
I stopped editing from playing mafia

anyways, I think I was away at the time, otherwise, that's pretty hate-crime-ish.

Proud owner of Splash Splash XLIV: Leave it there for someone to find, Which is on record for being the fastest thread to reach 2500 posts - which was completed in 28 hours and 17 minutes, from start to finish!
Yeah, the republican party is pretty much one big schizophrenic ball of contradictions nowadays. - Ax_man1
double post for milestone, then relentlessly bash on the community for the hell of it... stay classy thymole. - Lurker
posted 07-28-12 11:35 PM CT (US)     782 / 795  
Ah, Russian politics.
One hundred years is a long time. Can a government, anywhere, believe that their own belief is so significant or important that it should be imposed for a hundred years? Do they not think that thought could change in that time?
I can already see how this applies with gun control discussions. Now, next time someone mentions the Second Amendment..
posted 08-10-12 01:13 PM CT (US)     783 / 795  
Where are you Rladal?

You forgot about your Parliament.
Sorry. I have been quite far away from AoKH during a long period, so I apologize if the Parliament stayed abandonned during a while. But I am here, now!

"Freedom is not given, it is taken." - Kropotkin

If you like historical scenarios, look at my 1453-The Last Siege of Constantinople in the Blacksmith.
posted 08-19-12 11:35 AM CT (US)     784 / 795  
When will the Presidential Election will be held, btw?

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My Works
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posted 08-19-12 01:10 PM CT (US)     785 / 795  
I'm ready to stand for the Socialists.

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
posted 08-19-12 01:39 PM CT (US)     786 / 795  
And I, for the Stalinists!!! THE TRUE FACE OF SOCIALISM!!! rawrawrawrawr
posted 08-20-12 09:23 AM CT (US)     787 / 795  
I'm ready to stand for the Socialists.

Approved!

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posted 08-21-12 01:44 PM CT (US)     788 / 795  
In this case, I am ready to stand as "porte-parole" of the Anarchists. But we still need to discuss a bit about how we will hold these elections.

"Freedom is not given, it is taken." - Kropotkin

If you like historical scenarios, look at my 1453-The Last Siege of Constantinople in the Blacksmith.
posted 08-21-12 03:00 PM CT (US)     789 / 795  
I shall run for president!

Jesus HATES you.

I was once a normal Titan but then I decided to be King.
I have 2500 in the fastest splash splash ever. Suck it
posted 10-13-12 10:32 AM CT (US)     790 / 795  
Hey!

*BUMPS*

It's time to choose our next forum president!

Is anybody here?

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¡Viva México!
My Coat of Arms
posted 10-13-12 12:00 PM CT (US)     791 / 795  
And how are we going to do that?(Just asking)

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posted 10-13-12 12:06 PM CT (US)     792 / 795  
Like this.
posted 10-17-12 06:30 PM CT (US)     793 / 795  
Perfect! Finally some activity here! But it seems there is a problem: as the R.A.F. has no leader, it will be a bit complicated to chose a candidate for the presidential election...

"Freedom is not given, it is taken." - Kropotkin

If you like historical scenarios, look at my 1453-The Last Siege of Constantinople in the Blacksmith.

[This message has been edited by RladalFatih (edited 10-17-2012 @ 06:32 PM).]

posted 11-07-12 07:55 AM CT (US)     794 / 795  
I would like to politely insist on the lives on unrelated members of the general public of seventeen different countries including Kenya - that I become a member of the AoKH Socialist Party in a totally non-forcive way, with all the proper paperwork done to make it seem legit.

Oh and Please.

Proud Member of Black Forest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil - Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009
and The Seas of Egressa - Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
posted 11-07-12 07:57 AM CT (US)     795 / 795  
What a splendid idea! We are still in need of a minister of zombie management!

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
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