That TD looks awesome, going to give it a go right now.

EDIT: Wow almost as big in filesize as Ripto!

[This message has been edited by Yeebaagooon (edited 04-15-2009 @ 12:41 PM).]

Shotgun the TD!

Hey, I'll gladly try my hand at eye-candying the top one. You mean the big grass triangles in the middle, right?

There's a lot of people making tower defences lately (including me)!

[This message has been edited by Mephiles (edited 04-16-2009 @ 10:51 AM).]

I would If I was any good:/

Quoted from Mapppp:

Hey, I'll gladly try my hand at eye-candying the top one. You mean the big grass triangles in the middle, right?

Yup the four triangle in the middle - go crazy or w/e you like.

Quoted from SoV:

I would If I was any good:/

Are you referring to making TD's or Eyecandy? Cuz I thought you where the man at eye-candy...

Quoted from Yeebaagooon:

That TD looks awesome, going to give it a go right now.

Just like the Beginning of Time huh? (Don't worry I don't hold grudges ).

Quoted from Yeebaagooon:

Wow almost as big in filesize as Ripto!

Yeah that's because I Built all the cinematics. It multiplied the scenario size by around 3 ~ Khan

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-15-2009 @ 08:52 PM).]

Are you referring to making TD's or Eyecandy? Cuz I thought you where the man at eye-candy...

I'm good at making TD's!!I can make various types of candy but not eye-candy.

Looks like you want a submaximal attempt at eyecandy. There are a few people that could test their skills on it and do a good job so I won't take their opportunity to improve themselves.

You wouldn't want my noob ass doin it. lolz

I might be able to do some eyecandy. Here are some samples of my work.

Nature Scene

Pool/Fountain

Altar

Waterfall

Just email me at aZeusDude2@Yahoo.com and tell me what to do. If you consider me, of couse.

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Quoted from SoV:

Looks like you want a submaximal attempt at eyecandy. There are a few people that could test their skills on it and do a good job so I won't take their opportunity to improve themselves.

S'pose, I would prefer it to be done to a higher standard but of course not over embellished <- because that's so hard to explain I thought I'd just see what I get back in return . You should give it a crack though.

Quoted from aZeusDude2:

I might be able to do some eyecandy. Here are some samples of my work ...
Just email me at aZeusDude2@Yahoo.com and tell me what to do. If you consider me, of couse.

I like - but I would much rather you have a crack at the map your style. I'm not sure what I want thus why I would rather someone else candy it. But please just give it a shot the two that I have got so far have been pretty good so I would like to see yours. Because, from what you've shown me your look like you could bring some new light to the map ~ Khan

Why am I so damn underrated?
You know why?
The wave of noobs that haven't seen anything I've made.
That's why!

K&S TD Review

Rating
4.0
Breakdown
Playability	5.0
Balance	4.0
Creativity	5.0
Map Design	3.0
Story/Instructions	3.0

Playability (5):
Well done Khan&Steak! I was pretty impressed by this map. It's a really good build on the traditional TD, and you made me love it. It is actually quite close in resembling Bloons Tower Defense 3 (I love that game). Now onto the review, I couldn't really find any bugs in this map. It was thoroughly playable and enjoyable. There was one thing I did spot however, and that was an annoying phoenix egg over one of my potential building sites when a phoenix creep died. That's easily fixable, just change the egg or damage it. Another thing to mention is the sky passages. Their colour made them hard to find, you should maybe use underworld passages instead so they can be easily identified.

Balance (4):
It wasn't perfect. The most noticeable thing was flying units went directly to the lighthouse, rather than going round all the corners. This made it quite difficult to capture the flying creeps. I also feel that having a build limit on the objects was rather tedious (yet necessary for the walls). Having to wait for the villagers to put down mining camps was annoying as I watched the citizens across spamming down towers using the gift of the shift key. The waves were nicely done however. A good balance of increase as things steadily got harder, and kept getting harder as the levels went up. I feel the canal wasn't used enough times, but when it was used I was often overwhelmed. The catapult was also useless as it doesn't auto fire.

Creativity (5):
You deserve a 5 here. I loved the variation and build on the traditional TD. You didn't just have towers firing arrows, you had 8 different towers and I loved that idea. Having bonuses against units was also very crafty, and ensured that the player had to use all the towers. As far as I can see, it's impossible to win if you only use one tower type. The upgrades shop was also essential and added good variety to the game, and even more so as it became more expensive to build the upgraded towers. You'd need a good strategy to avoid that pricing gap.

Map Design (3):
Unfortunately, this map wasn't eyecandied at all. There were big blocks of terrain types and big sharp drops in elevation. I also feel that the canal building area was cut off from the rest of the map, you should get rid of the cliffs in the canal corner. Also when a unit was placed it had no speed, but the positioning takes up the default building heading. Don't know if it would be possible for you to create a trigger that changes the heading of the units so your defenses would look more organised and impressive. You could also add a minuscule amount of speed on to combat this.

Story/Instructions (3):
The objectives were laid out nicely, and I could find out what each tower did. However it was lacking story and the instructions weren't perfect. For example, what did the dwarven mine god power do if anything? There was also no 'set player defeated' condition, but I can forgive that as this is a beta. Just before you release, please add some music! At the boss wave I can't really remember anything dramatic happening, I was expecting some sort of super unit to tear up my towers .

Additional Comments:
All in all, this map looks very promising. Just try and fix some of the things I have mentioned. Also you should try getting rid of the cinematic creep path and canal, as they can confuse.

He did say that you should send it to his Email. And if you didn't get many Water waves, man are you lucky. I got 8 of them in a row on my second play through. And the dwarvern mine was for you to mine with your citizens, which was quite awesome 1000 gold for 50 gold! So you didn't get the Lighthouse disappearing bug which I got?
And KaS 8) on the list it should be wave 150 not 50. And I just saw this,
http://aom.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=8658
Probably just a coincidence but it did seem strangely the same name.

[This message has been edited by Henrz (edited 04-16-2009 @ 03:49 AM).]

Thanks Yeeby - Oh and anyone else that wants to playtest can do their report in dot points or in paragraphs. Please e-mail us @ Dreamer(at)Live(dot)com(dot)au or M(dot)Stubbster(at)gmail(dot)com <- Preferred option or do what Yeebaagooon did and post here <- not preffered option. Either way make sure you tell us somehow .

Quoted from Henrz:

8) it should be wave 150 not 50.

Not sure what you mean here, could you please elaborate?

Quoted from Henrz:

And I just saw this,
http://aom.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=8658
Probably just a coincidence but it did seem strangely the same name.

I added this to the main post shortly after posting the thread - "This is based of a map currently in the New Files" called Pirate-Life RPG by lordaloa. This has been modified DRAMATICALLY so that the only thing that is really the same is the peninsula."

But I'm getting rid of it from the Playtesting List becuase I've already had over 5 reports on it and finished it .

But I'll add more on at the bottom of the post as well

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-16-2009 @ 08:10 AM).]

As in my bug list which I sent you in the E-mail, it should be wave 150 everything gets stuck, not 50.

@aZeusDude2 Henrz - Oh right, thanks

Quoted from Cirrus:

Why am I so damn underrated?
You know why?
The wave of noobs that haven't seen anything I've made.
That's why!

I've seen your work and I think it looks sexy. Apparently Steaks' seen your other work as well... Anyway you should eye-candy this map and e-mail it to us ~ Khan

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-16-2009 @ 08:29 PM).]

Why am I so damn underrated?
You know why?
The wave of noobs that haven't seen anything I've made.
That's why!

Don't worry, Cirrow. I know what you're capable of. However, if you had presented your work more recently, you probably wouldn't be saying that...

Maybe I'll try the eye-candy map.
Is it allowed to place buildings on the triangles or only a natural environment or doesn't it matter?
And does it have to be in a certain mood?

Quoted from Khan:

I like - but I would much rather you have a crack at the map your style. I'm not sure what I want thus why I would rather someone else candy it. But please just give it a shot the two that I have got so far have been pretty good so I would like to see yours. Because, from what you've shown me your look like you could bring some new light to the map ~ Khan

So is that a yes? I'm guessing it is, but you haven't emailed me anything yet...

Quoted from Khan:

@aZeusDude2 - Oh right, thanks

I don't get what you're trying to say. You said this waay after my post, which you already answered to.

I wish I could make awsome RMSs like you, Khan. Or, at least, RMSs.

@aZeusDude2 - Woops , I fix. And I didn't e-mail you the scenario because...

Quoted from KaS:

The map is found here

So you can get it yourself . But please give it a good shot .

Quoted from WizZzard:

Maybe I'll try the eye-candy map.
Is it allowed to place buildings on the triangles or only a natural environment or doesn't it matter?

Please do . Good question about the buildings - as long as they are Gaia then go for it.

Quoted from WizZzards:

And does it have to be in a certain mood?

Nope. Any mood you make it - but it would be better if you put in things that the heroes could use to kill things on the path. If you haven't I don't mind at all just giving some food for thought? ~ Khan

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-16-2009 @ 09:00 PM).]

Basically, I remake the map to my own style? So I can change anything there?

I'll get started ASAP.

Quoted from aZeusDude2:

So I can change anything there?

Quoted from KaS:

You can keep what's there there or you can change it completely just remember to only do the four triangles!

Anything that's in the Triangles <- Delete it all, keep some, keep all - whatever you like! ~ Khan

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-16-2009 @ 09:20 PM).]

Great. I'll have it to you by tomorrow.

Do you still need an eyecandier? I would love to try.

I would If I was any good:/

Why am I so damn underrated?
You know why?
The wave of noobs that haven't seen anything I've made.
That's why!

I'll probably playtest the TD. Looks fun!

@ Yeebs - most of the things that you posted can't really be helped or are worth the effort .

Quoted from pubby:

I'll probably playtest the TD. Looks fun!

Please do, it's nothing like yours (SP ftw).

Quoted from WRP_King_isi:

Do you still need an eyecandier? I would love to try.

I hate WRP's but I doubt that has any effect on your ability to Eye-candy. Maps found here - just make sure you've read the rules in the main post ~ Steak

[This message has been edited by Steak And Khan (edited 04-17-2009 @ 08:43 AM).]