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iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 01-27-09 10:15 PM EDT (US)

French Semi-FF_TADv1.01
Overview:

The aim of this strategy is to harass with hussars, and age to with a good eco, while keeping the opponent busy. The amount of harassment, batches of hussars and age-up politician all depend on the civilization, and their actions. This strategy is incredibly dependent on your opponent, their units, and how they are playing.
Times:
Discovery Age
0:00-0:10:

Send two villagers to the nearest animal

Each of the other villagers are assigned to their own food crate

Start building a villager ASAP

First two that are done are sent to a new animal

Other crate villager will collect all other crates except gold, and then to the second killed animal, be sure to herd, as now the animal will react when shot

Set TC waypoint to the first killed animal
0:11-0:20:

Select scout and set a circle of waypoints around your town then off to explore the rest of map

Select Explorer and collect the nearest treasure
0:21-1:45

Get a house or two built with your starting wood

Continue building villagers until you have 11 population

Continue herding your first hunt

Locate second hunt and begin herding as well

Get treasures
1:46-2:15:

Send 3 CdB card
2:16-2:59:

Continue microing Explorer for treasures
3:00-3:15:

Click age up

Select Quartermaster to receive 400 wood
Transition
3:16-4:39:

Switch villagers around

8 villagers food

2 villagers wood

4 villagers gold

Send scout and explorer to opponents base

Stealth scout and place near back of base

Screw around with his villagers by shooting them or whatever

Colonial
4:40-4:50:

Gather 400 wood with 2 wood villagers

With 2 gold villagers, build stable to the side of your base

build as many houses as possible with 2 wood villagers

send them back too wood

Send 4 CbD card

Set TC way point to food

one villagers should be built then 4 villagers from card also sent to food

have 13 villagers on food

Set way point to gold

keep it at this until needed to switch
4:51-5:30:

Build 5 hussars

or build one then add more later

RAID RAID RAID
5:31

6:30

if he kills more than two of your hussars, consider build five additional ones

Ship 700 gold

Collect with 2 wood villagers
6:31-7:30

depending on which path you chose you will either

Be about to age up

Building the second batch of hussars

*at this point you will choose either:

The exiled prince

This will be used if they are building a large rushing force

The marksman

this will be used if they aren�t doing the above
Fortress

This is where the build order ends. By watching the recordings you will be able to see what I most commonly do against each civilization (I will try to against each civilization and see how it works against them). Most common strategy is to start building cuirassiers and shipping skirmishers.

Deck:

Most Common Card Order

Recordings
I shall be adding more as i get good games
iTech64(french)-vs-John57(dutch)
iTech64(french)-vs-BossGnome(Chinese)
iTech64(French)-vs-Kentyn(Portuguese)

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

[This message has been edited by iTech64 (edited 02-01-2009 @ 02:18 PM).]

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iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 01-27-09 10:22 PM EDT (US) 1 / 22

mod move this and the other one to strategy section please?
thanks

CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer

posted 01-27-09 10:57 PM EDT (US) 2 / 22

well written. I usually put about 5/6 cdb on wood during transition get a market+upgrades and then redistribute them back. You should consider doing this as it will help your age time a bit i think and also give you a great eco to spam cuirs/skirms later on

.

i pretty much always choose marksmen when doing hussar semi-ff since when aging 3 i will make goons/cuirs so the skirms from age up + shipment will back up that army nicely. Also when they are rushing you can still often age with skirms since CdB hopping(another reason to build market during transition) + mm(if needed) can usually hold the tc until the skirms arrive to destroy the HI attacking the tc.

Also, you put 600 gold in picture as 4th shipment? i would either send 700 wood for housing/tp/rax or just save for skirms.

BTW where are the recordings? you mentioned them, but i don't see any.

[This message has been edited by CrazyLunatic (edited 01-27-2009 @ 11:00 PM).]

Ganzzer
Banned

posted 01-27-09 11:02 PM EDT (US) 3 / 22

Also don't build your second house before aging to colonial as that is time wasted when the CDB could be on food. You also say send 2 villies to the nearest animal. I send one usually, because if 2 shot, it dies, if one shots, it runs closer to the TC and saves a little time.

iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 01-27-09 11:06 PM EDT (US) 4 / 22

well i say that right in the beginning because the animals dont run for the first 10 seconds or so, so if two villagers shoot it you dont wait for one to reload then shoot again to kill it, they will both shoot, kill it, then go collect.

also yea im thinking that sending some food villagers to wood to have about 5 during transition to colonial might be better, because i end up with about 500 food once i age, which i wont need until i get the stable up, so yea ill try that and see how it works.
it will definitely help to have the villager upgrades if you know your opponent will be rushing, along with the pioneers card in case of extreme emergency.

[This message has been edited by iTech64 (edited 01-27-2009 @ 11:09 PM).]

MockHamill
Skirmisher

posted 01-28-09 01:58 AM EDT (US) 5 / 22

Since you do not have much of an army in colonial with this strat I would include an early market. That way you can get Blunderbuss and Great Coat and fight of a counter-attack with your Coureurs.

Valckrie1
Veteran Musketeer (Content Contributor)

posted 01-28-09 12:42 PM EDT (US) 6 / 22

French always need market. This strategy is good, and should have been posted by someone - i was planning to make it, but you got it so

10 musket semi-ff is also viable vs other ffs, for harassment - their range is sometimes better than your hussars having to go close.

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iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 01-28-09 05:09 PM EDT (US) 7 / 22

hah i'm like halfway through setting up a build order for a 10 musket semi ff, should be done by the end of the week.

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

Arcane Ranger
Skirmisher

posted 01-28-09 07:00 PM EDT (US) 8 / 22

Nice guide, been looking for a regular ff alternative for the french.

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iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 01-29-09 11:06 PM EDT (US) 9 / 22

hmm, tried to do a musket semi ff, but i find i cant harass as well as i can with hussars, this might just be for defending against a heavy infantry rush.. still pondering the idea..

got a second recording, not the best opponent, but ill get more

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer

posted 01-30-09 00:37 AM EDT (US) 10 / 22

musket semi-ff seems to be good vs civs like ottos IMO so with CdB+muskets you can defend while aging for skirms+falcs+cuirs.
Also good vs cav civs like germany since your CdB can't stop uhlans

then your cuirs come and pwn his xbow+uhlan+pike army

Yeah, 5 hussar is nice because of raiding, but you can also jump in and shoot down a villager or two then run away and repeat process with muskets.

iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 02-01-09 02:14 PM EDT (US) 11 / 22

added another recording vs a port musket rush

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher

posted 02-01-09 08:06 PM EDT (US) 12 / 22

Nice.

A_US_James246
Scenario Reviewer
(id: James246)

posted 02-02-09 01:07 AM EDT (US) 13 / 22

Nice, Nice. Your now HG's 2nd most contributor, following me!

iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 02-02-09 01:10 AM EDT (US) 14 / 22

:O
really?

i onlys gots four thoughs..
YAY

is there a list of where all the emoticon/smiles are?

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

[This message has been edited by iTech64 (edited 02-02-2009 @ 01:11 AM).]

Macrya
Skirmisher

posted 02-03-09 02:37 PM EDT (US) 15 / 22

I can't watch it because I have aoe3. You have Asian Dynasties or something like that.

Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher

posted 02-03-09 03:39 PM EDT (US) 16 / 22

James who is HG most contributor? I don't understand what you meant lol.

iTech64
Scenario Reviewer

posted 02-03-09 05:04 PM EDT (US) 17 / 22

he means with the special name guide thing

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories

Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher

posted 02-03-09 05:40 PM EDT (US) 18 / 22

Oh ok thanks.

Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher

posted 02-03-09 05:41 PM EDT (US) 19 / 22

Oh thanks a lot.

A_US_James246
Scenario Reviewer
(id: James246)

posted 02-04-09 01:23 AM EDT (US) 20 / 22

James who is HG most contributor? I don't understand what you meant lol.

As iTech said... I'm HG's most contributor in the Special Name thing.

Lord_Richjp
Skirmisher

posted 02-04-09 11:16 AM EDT (US) 21 / 22

But not in the useful post contribution thing

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Lord_Sami
Skirmisher

posted 02-04-09 11:48 AM EDT (US) 22 / 22

Nice strat

btw that's the settler split for my secret musketeer rush

But imo these strats don't differ too much from the old semi ff's whatsoever.

But nice job, i like it when it's kept simple and not written like an essay

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