I will compile the Numenor Archer, Orc Warrior, Orc Archer, Sauron, Elven archer, and Elven swordsman if they can be used in METC. you know my Email.

Elven archer preview now on the site. This is his "battle animation" when facing in a certain direction the elf arcehr's idle will have the arrow already ready to fire (like in the film when the orcs charge towards the elven line and Elrond gives the order to fire) the attack anim for that direction is simply releasing the arrow and notching another to fire. Hopefully it'll look good. The numenorian archer is the same except he kneels when reloading (once again from the film) Their attacks in other directions will be a normal style attack.. It should be useful for battle scenarios, use a trigger to release an arrow barrage

We've had infinie discussions about Sauron and his size.. However I can say the mace at least is the correct size...

The Dwarves will probably not be released any time soon.

Still in need of ideas for the things I asked for. People normally like doing requests :P

Contact me on MSN those who want to compile.

Modrocker: Please tell me people have interest in this mod other than getting graphics for METC?

[This message has been edited by Lonepadawan (edited 07-09-2004 @ 08:11 PM).]

"or some sort of shack. I'll also try and have a go and that birthing pit idea"

Maybe a blacked wooden shack would work for an ork house. Also Birthing pits to replace barracks sounds very good.

The buildings look good.

For the elven castle. hmm Make something ethearel and bright.

Did the elves use stone? If so it could look like polished blue (or white) granite. Perhaps put some trees around it.

Yeah people have interest in this mod, it's one of the best being made, no other mod has heroes who have their own graphics...besides LOTR mod I think but that isn't due untill 2006.

i was thinking of changing my attack animation to something like that... it's too jumpy the other way for my taste. but i wanted to see it "in game" first. how many frames per direction do you need? I need 12, which seems too much to just move his arms, but 12 also seems too few to change from standing to an attack stance.

I was thinking that Elendil should swing to his other shoulder and then move the sword back to the start. His hand comes off the sword, was that a bug?

The Elven archer needs to be a tad more aggressive in his actions, maybe crouch a little (as in a really tiny amount) and have the string drawn back to his ear. The bow also needs to be a little springier.

For the Mordor wall, just blacken the Numenorian wall and voila!

Well, if you watch the TT in the scenes with the Elves, they don't have a lot of motion in their attacks.

My biggest complaints about ANY Mordor buildings, is that people just make some other building black or grey. Whereas the buildings shouldn't be as completed or modern.

lonepadawn i like the idea for the attack animations for the elves. To bad that the engine makes them target one single unit. Instead of firing in one volly hitting only whats infront of them

Great models Lonepadawan.
I have an offer for you. You can e-mail me at: historyguy@frontiernet.net

Lets just say, it deals with a group of peeps, I am organizing.

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Sounds like a smuggling operation to me

His stupid 3d game.
Lonepadawan told me over msn messanger that he wanted to do individual mods for SWGB, like WarHammer 40,000 mods.

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I have a couple of things to say to you, ModRocker.

What is your problem? You're always putting people down, telling them their work sucks, but OH! No offense did you say? It's not like you can just say that and expect people to NOT take offense.

Stop discrediting other people's work. It discourages people from finishing, and leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths.

Seems like every time I pop into Modpack Discussion, you're putting people down, and then expect to get ownership of a major mod e.g. METC. When you tried to take over that, you wanted to completely redo it! Hundreds of hours of Shadowflare, and other modder's work went into that! And you wanted to just throw it all away, start it again, and rip pbguy's stuff into it!

WAKE UP TO YOURSELF!!!!!

Nobody likes a sour grape.

EDIT: I just realised you were putting down a Cherub. HA HA!

Ban.

[This message has been edited by GaladhrimWarrior (edited 07-14-2004 @ 07:49 PM).]

How about you shut up and mind your own buisness, I've talked to History Guy over msn messanger and AIM, we have nothing against eachother, oo I said "his stupid game" I'm really putting him down and making him quit on it. As for METC, I asked Shadowflare if I could do the patch work, he said it would be fine, when I mentioned redoing everything, he said it wasn't a good idea and I was cool with that, all I have planned is redoing the Gondor buildings, making new towers and walls, and redoing most of the units. People are saying I'm doing a good job, so there's no problem. Also who the hell are you?

And about being a sour grape, I'm not sour, your an asshole, look in paul's thread, I just introduced him to alot of units, and guided him threw how to get them, he was very thankful. I helped Leighn with mods, and I got to know Dark Blade quite well. You never even met me, stop judging people from a few posts. Also when you say, "You're always putting people down". I want you to look threw every post I've ever made, count them, then seperate the ones that I'm putting people down in, or saying something else, seriously dude you're an idiot. Oh and the only unit I was gonna put into METC was the Rohan Rider which at first he gave me permission to add in.

Lol.
I come in here after about 2 weeks and There's already a flame on 2 people. Me, and ModRocker. :P

My "stupid" 3d game? It's actually 2d buddy...
Black Water Games is currently making its own RTS game from 3000 BC... to 600 AD.

And GaladhrimWarrior, it would be a waste of my time to ban a person like ModRocker... or would it?

Anways, it seems that Lonepadawan might be a little to busy to join BWG. If I'm permitted, I'll post the actuall link to the gaming site, in here.

All for now.

I've seen Dalla's units for the game, they are good. You guys are trying to bear Rome Total War's graphics right?

We're unsure of the game that we want to be influenced by (graphics wise), Dalla and me want to point to Cossacks: The Art of War, and most of the others agree.

how goes the mod, lonepadawan?

hey LP....

go here and look at the poll in the lower right... and look and the middle option!

and from part of the intvw...

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[This message has been edited by pbguy1211 (edited 07-19-2004 @ 06:07 PM).]

Ah. Prehaps I'll stop then. I'm tired these days...

he lives!

hey, if you're gonna stop... you might want to share your character models!

1 question for you... for some reason on my elf model shadows aren't appearing when i render it. any ideas why?

I'd like to get this done. I'd like to play with my mods as much as... hopefully you lot do. But I've been away a while camping, kayaking, canoeing and in general having a good time and staying away from computers and return and find I have had a major virus attack. I bought a new hard drive to save all my work. I hope it was worth it. Coming and finding my thread full of flames is most disheartening.

I have another week before I'm off climbing. I'll see what can be done. A few more attack animations and I'll have the frames ready. Hopefully. But this virus means I'll have to rearrange my now over several CDs worth of 3d assets. I'll see how I feel.

"I'd like to get this done. I'd like to play with my mods as much as... hopefully you lot do.

I bought a new hard drive to save all my work. I hope it was worth it." - Lonepadawan

Good luck and please don't give up. Those are some great units, it would be sad to quit and lose all that work. Have a great evening.

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"What about graphics files? Can they be infected with a virus? Is your computer system in any danger from infected graphics files?

Graphics files are generally collections of data and as such are not executed by a computer's operating system. Programs that use graphics files, such as display and editing programs, simply read the data in a graphics file into memory and then modify it for rendering to an output device. Graphics files that consist of data cannot be infected by a virus because the code is not executed. Static graphics files (i.e., those containing no code) are safe from infection.

Some graphics files, such as those used in multimedia applications, do have the capability of storing instructions that can be executed by specific software applications. Such instructions might display text, create sound, pop up menus, and read data from other files. Object-oriented files containing data and the code necessary to render the data are also in this category. These types of files are theoretically susceptible to virus infection. At this point, however, none to our knowledge have been attacked by viruses. This may change, however, as instruction sequences necessary for the proper rendering of a particular file become more complex. However, none of the file formats in common use support this level of complexity.

NOTE:

What about page description languages (PDLs) such as PostScript and hypertext languages such as HTML? Such languages are not actually graphics file formats, but are instead collections of interpreted statements that may contain or reference graphics data. Although the graphics data itself is not a target for a virus, the interpreted language code can be altered, and known security holes in the programming language can be exploited.

In summary, graphics files are very unlikely candidates for infection by computer viruses. In fact, most virus detection programs will not even bother to scan graphics files unless told explicitly to do so. Of course, a virus could still do nasty things to a graphics file, just as it could to any other type of file--for example, it could copy, move, alter, corrupt, or delete a graphics file, or it could append data to the file to cause it to grow in size. But a computer virus cannot use a data-only graphics file--or any data file, for that matter--to reproduce."

Source:
http://netghost.narod.ru/gff/graphics/book/ch08_06.htm

Another link on the same subject:
http://www.stiller.com/cookies.htm

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"Good luck and please don't give up. Those are some great units, it would be sad to quit and lose all that work. Have a great evening. "

Ditto that. These are the best LOTR units, period. I can't force you to keep going, but I would be very glad to see the project completed and submitted, and I'm sure there's more out there who agree.

Animating can get dull, and I wanted to create another elvish hero to use in a campaign anyway, Cirdan seemed the natural choice since we don't know anything about what he does except his actions on the slopes of Mount Doom.

Anyway.. I'm back, and determined to finish this mod. The only thing I'm worried about is it being overshadowed by METC, and once they use my graphics, people losing all interest in the mod they came from....

[This message has been edited by Lonepadawan (edited 08-07-2004 @ 12:43 PM).]

LP, your work puts you in a class by yourself. Gain some self respect there bud. Stop beating yourself up over nothing.

What he said. Your a great modder, LP. I'd hate to see this all go to waste. Seriously, your work is brilliant. I'm very excited to download this.

Cirdan looks great.

Ditto was pbguy said. imho, you make the best unit mods for AOK. period. We all appreciate your work.

you're doing great work LP. i wouldn't worry about being overshadowed by anything.

I'm pretty sure if a certain forumer was here you would get posts every other day, "so when are you gonna be done? whats going on with the mod?" I dont post like that (as a lot of other people dont) because one would assume posts like that get very annoying. But check the number of replys to this there is lots of interest. and you're doing great work!

[This message has been edited by qaz123tfg (edited 08-07-2004 @ 11:35 PM).]

Agreed. I don't post an over abundance because they get annoying and repetitive. LP will be done when he's done. No sense in rushing him or the quality of his work.

Lonepadawan we dont need all the units you have , and people will not loose the interest on your mod becase METC and TLA are very dif.
The untis that METC needs is Sauron in first place and a Numenorian soldier.Sharing the untis with us you are helping people from you own comunity , we are age 2 fans and lord of the rings fans.
But the choice is yours.

Hows the mod going? And no i'm not just posting here to be annoying. lol I have some good news. I offer to host this mod if its over 2mb. (If its under 2 mb the blacksmith will host it.) When I say host, I mean make the final download file avaliable. I have 10 gigs of bandwidth (per month) and so far my site has enjoyed a 100% uptime.

Animations and Graphics all ready. Rendering them taking a long time.

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Who?

does it begin with an "m" end end with a "r" witha "odrocke" in between?

*renders slowly*

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I see... for a second I thought it was me!

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