TC, Have you figured out all of the terrain restrictions? And what is resource carriage?

I'm not sure if you answered my last question, will you be able to update your version of Genied if more unknowns are found? I'm not a programmer, and I do realize there is alot of work involved. It sure would be great to have an active programmer keeping it up to date.

In the unit data...
civ_1_unit_2_type: 70
civ_1_unit_2_name1_length: 12
civ_1_unit_2_id: 2
civ_1_unit_2_language: 5853
civ_1_unit_2_unknown01: c5 1a 39 00

the c5 & 1a, just before the unit class points to the "build text" in the language.dll. c5+(1a * 256)
That's about all I've noticed so far that is missing.

Did you see my topic about the unit data? This is where many abilities of a unit are enabled.

http://swgb.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=10,8275,0,365

Is it possible to make Genied2 change these figures?
And can you specify how many attack/armor pairs a unit has?

Thanks again for your work!

Am I correct in saying that the only way to change a units attack number is to alter how slow/fast it attacks?

Is there anyway to make a flying unit? Say for this question I wanted to make a dragon, is this something that isn't available in AOK, only the SWBG engine?

yes but it didnt work i changed the range to 30
and nothing works

This is excellent. However, I have one more request. Is there any chance that you can write the program so it saves the changes, kinda like a Modpack for stats? If so, that'd be AWESOME!

D_B

30 may be too high for the game engine.

You've done a great job AGAIN, scenario_t_c! I'm proud of you.

BTW: I suggest you add some links of useful threads into this guide to make it more useful.

For example:

Unit Class List (For GE2.1 & Trigger)
http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=9,35755,,all

Default Targets of Attack Strengths in GE2.1(1.0)
http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=9,35754,,all

Unit-stat edited without Changing *.DAT(GeniED2)
http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=4,34981,,all

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Summed up the feelings of the design community quite nicely.

Could someone please tell me how you find graphic slot ID?, or at least give me the slot ID of the Beta Knight (the brownish one without the lance). By the way shouldn't Garrisoin Heal Rate be Garrison Heal Rate?

EDIT: I mean without the shield, without the shield! I really must think when writing.

[This message has been edited by Sir Stamford (edited 12-07-2005 @ 01:09 AM).]

yeah i've been wanting that graphic too

W-O-W! I sure have missed something incredible here! TC, you know, you are a GENIUS! Whenever I feel like modding, I seriously will consider using your new GeniEd 2 edition.

scenario_t_c this thing is pretty cool, but I havent been able to make units visible throgh fog of war. Is it possible, or does it only apply to buildings which havent been sighted yet?

Any suggestions?

[This message has been edited by kfish2oo2 (edited 12-08-2005 @ 12:48 PM).]

@kfish2oo2

1) Fog of war isn't the dark area, but the explored area where you have no units nearby. Also, make sure that you have clicked the "Copy to all civs" button.

2) Whether a unit is selectable or not is not controlled by the unit data, but the graphic slot data, which can be edited by GeniED2. However, if you transfer those projectiles from an AoE1 scenario file, some of them can be selected.

@brandonridgway35, Sir Stamford

I will scan the database for that.

@Sidious Invader

Those information in your thread is about unit header instead of civ unit data, so I am afraid the program can not edit them.

@dark_blade

I am writing a auto-renaming program.

@vbbartlett

Unfortunately, there is really only one way to do that at this state.

@All

Thanks for all your kind words.

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-08-2005 @ 12:55 PM).]

Do you have the time to do the same for AoE1 last since you are editing in that game.
The data is even more simple.

Also, can you update your unit structure topic?

EDIT: (adding new units to the list)
Does the same go for this version of AoE?

Also, I thought out masses of new units, because I'm working on a project that must convert the game AoE2 to Populous 3.

See for more info:
http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=22,35843,0,all

[This message has been edited by Ancient Warrior (edited 12-09-2005 @ 09:00 AM).]

Can you make an untrainable unit(like a hero) terain ible or if a certain civ. dosant have a unit make it so they can train that unit. Is it possible to make a hole new civ on with this(weather copying overer another civ or not, dont care there are plenty of civs i dont like)

Quoted from scenario_t_c:

I sometime wonder if people are reader the words in this thread or not...

About adding civilization, it is still in research.

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-11-2005 @ 02:26 PM).]

Hey, scen_t_c,
I maybe able to help you out there.

I have added civs with GeniEd 1. It was a fairly time consuming process. There are two "civ counters" that you would need to change and then you just pretty much copy a civ's data and paste it.

I'll look for the AoK counters whne I get a chance.

*deleted*

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-12-2005 @ 05:58 AM).]

Then can you make a hero trainable?
and i cant find out how to make trebuchet transform into building, and does gods own sling and bad neighbor count to?(hero trebs)

[This message has been edited by Rabid33 (edited 12-11-2005 @ 04:15 PM).]

Transform building works on trebuchet (including two hero trebuchets, PMANG and PTWC) only, since they are the only units/buildings (the game consider them as buildings) that have the unpack/pack command. It controls which building the treb will transform into after the unpack/pack command. Yet, most time you change this number, it will result in a chase , or an useless OLD-ACADEMY.

You have to add a new enabling-technology by hex-editing to make a hero or other non-trainable unit traianable.

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-12-2005 @ 05:58 AM).]

ok thx for info

Resource carriage:
- It doesn't work.

Just as I said in the guide: use that on workers, not villagers.

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-12-2005 @ 05:53 AM).]

For TC:
I know that you can influence the quantity of how many resources a object can contain, but because I haven't got enough time in my previous reply, i couldn't go in detail. Here comes the question:
> Exept that you can influence the quantity of how many resources a object can contain, but the resource type that that object contains cannot change. It only gets another icon, but in fact, if you want to let a gold mine contain 800 food, you will only see the food icon. But in fact, it's steel gold. Also, if you MOD the worker to, it steel carry's gold, and gold will steel being added to your gold stockpile.
> Maybe, you have found the resource cariage option, but I think that the crucial byte that controls the TYPE of resource isn't found jet.
> The DISPLAYED attack/armor is a very good example

Quick edit:
Also, I'm working on a very interresting patch.
try take a look at the ModPack discussion.

[This message has been edited by Ancient Warrior (edited 12-12-2005 @ 06:51 AM).]

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A very simple reply would be like this: change the unit class. On the other hand, resource carriage has nothing to do with the stored resource type.

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If you want to change what type of resource a worker can carry, I can tell you it is impossible to do with civ-unit data editing in GeniED2.

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There isn't such thing existing. It is the unit class and unit header that are controlling what kind of resource a unit can carry.

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Aren't we already here?

So, I have only to change the unit class...

Maybe it's a challenge to find the unit class data.
I'm sure, it's stored in the .exe.

Search this board for a unit class list I've completed sometime ago.

http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=9,35755,,all

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-15-2005 @ 11:01 AM).]

When I looked in your list, I saw TERRA, TERRB, TERRC, ... I think this has to do with the terrain, but nothing happens. Also, I see these names between [brackets] in the gamedata_x1.drs!

[This message has been edited by Ancient Warrior (edited 12-16-2005 @ 10:11 AM).]

Those are just some unused objects. Everything you see in genied2 is related to unit but not terrain, except the terrain restriction.

Many study have been done on gamedata_x1.drs even before I came to AoKH, search the forum and the blacksmith for relevant information.

By the way, I can't find any TERRB or TERRC in gamedata_x1.drs. (Well, "terrain" does contain "TERRA".) I think you have confused them with TREE_B and TREE_C.

Finally, "#const" part is used for random map generation purpose. Read the RMSG.DOC on the CD or the tutorials available here in the Blacksmith to collect more information.

[This message has been edited by scenario_t_c (edited 12-16-2005 @ 10:44 AM).]

What does work rate one and work rate 2 mean for a monk?

In general what does work rate 1 and work rate 2 mean for a villager type?

For example, a fisherman. All he does is fish. So, why are there 2 work rates (he is only doing one job, fishing) and what are each of them for?

Fisherman:

work rate 1: 4.000

work rate 2: 0.430

What is the work rate measured in? 4.000 means he gathers 4 fish every second?

[This message has been edited by qaz123tfg (edited 12-23-2005 @ 12:39 PM).]

Work rate is different for every unit. For example, it affects packing/unpacking speed for a treb, too.

So, for a fishermen would it be...

Work rate 1 = the speed he fishes

work rate 2 = the speed he pulls the net in?

Thanks in advance for help.

Can you change the name? not by the unit number, but like change a genitours name to Royal Knight?

Can you change the name? not by the unit number, but like change a genitours name to Royal Knight?"

Of course. And that requires zero stats editing. Look in the main sticky for a link to Resource Hacker. Its a free program which will let you change unit names. All you have to do is edit the .dll's.

Edit:
What is "stone defence" as an attack strength? I noticed villiagers have it.

[This message has been edited by qaz123tfg (edited 12-27-2005 @ 08:12 PM).]

Stone Defence means walls and gates in the least (I suspect the palliside wall and castle are also included). Probably is something that is activated when you research Sappers.

Attack strength "stone defence" affects other units which have the armour strength with the same name. By default setting, Bombard Tower, Fortified Wall, Gate, Guard Tower, Keep, Sea Tower, Stone Wall, The Accursed Tower, The Tower of Flies and Watch Tower will be affected.

Reference:
Default Targets of Attack Strengths in GE2.1(1.0)