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I disagree- you won't get anywhere without trying something new, for example-

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Exactly. You have to keep trying something new in different scenarios so you can eventually combine it all into one innovative scenario (Like, for example, The Last Spartan which I made in Feb. 2004, contains some Birthright Elements I later refined for Bright).

I agree with some things as like finding and researching things so it can be the bast it can be, also I agree with copying other people's work that you think is good and then modify it (I do alot so it looks nothing like the other person's).In the end this guide is half true, but it's in the eye of the beholder I guess.

It all seems like a good guide to me. =P. But you can try using your own ideas from the start... if it doesn't work replace it with someone else's. Scenarios that have exactly the same idea as another are kind of boring, like all the "walk in a straight line killing tons of enemies and leveling up" rpgs that are out there.

Yea, those are all true, but these are aimed at the 'noobs' of design...but yea, everybody is right in their own way (and wrong too!)

Especially the ald FF RPGs they are annoying and boring, I mean you're right they walk fight walk some more and so on and so on.

Nice thread. I especially liked number 5) . Thanks.

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Hmmm..... No, you don't . I'm older .

17.

Don't forget about playtesting though. There's a nice article about that in the Library, written by The Bard.

Nice guide.

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I am . Hence my name.

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Nope. FD2 don't mean anything. Your previous name does.

Nice guide

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hahaha, i guess you are saying this from personal experiencej/k

I dont think most good designers here are exactly "geeks", i for instance have many other activities besides making stuff for RTS games(check siggy), and i'm sure other people do as well/

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it depends. But i do agree with this. A newbie shouldnt start designing to find new tricks, but rather first learning the basics, and then when he has enough knowledge on the editor, he/she can start toying around to find new ways to design or to make something work with triggers.

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I desagree. Everyone can...though i doubt anyone else could make something better than The lost legion...i mean really, i'm amaized by the amount of trigger work into this scenario, totally worthy of a 5.0 but just as long as you have enough experience designing, triggering, ETC, then you can make something as huge as the lost legion.

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Totally agree, and Archeropix made a guide about this. I think this most happens because of an scenario idea not well builded, starting getting lazy when you realize how much work you have to do, and mostly this happens to people who really design every single day, they can easily get tired.

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difficulty levels conditions!

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Or better. Isn't that hard, really.

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[This message has been edited by slickman_g (edited 01-31-2005 @ 01:06 PM).]

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You never will make anything better than LL, I'm sorry.

Yeah, reading it over, I kinda have to agree with Auron...but I'll leave it as it stands. To me it makes sense, but w/e.

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I would never make a comment like that.

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was that directed to everyone, or to guardian? in any way that post was offensive...it would be hard to make an scenario like that, but everyone can; you just need lots of time

The best advice is to be 13. Those of us in university or who will soon be in univesity can't spend 2 hours a day designing.

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This is actually good advice, but it's phrased lousily. It means that you'll get bored if you plan out your entire scenario and then design it. So follow your plans for a little while, then throw them out and head off at a ninety degree angle.

I find some tips useful but much of it is directed toward newbies IMO. You can always make better scenarios than others. You just need the time and effort.

Over Highly Expectations: You may not actually finish but you'll learn much along the way.

And always try new things. I found that the Editor is FAR more capable than I originally thought. Nearly everything I wanted to do in the Editor was possible.

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Actually no you don't. That is entirely wrong.

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Actually to nearly everyone, because he said it wasn't very hard to make something better than the LL. And I don't think everyone could make a LL with enough time...

Anyway, it wasn't meant offensive in any way, although I admit, it probably sounds so... I'm sorry. I just wanted to stress that it is not easy to make something like the LL.

^ You're stressing nothing, infact, that's really a pessimistic way to look at things, if you ask me. Anyone can create something as good as anything in the downloads section as long as he puts time, effort and research into it. 'You can never make anything as good as TLL', that's just lame, sorry to say this AoMPlayer. Besides that, TLL isn't the only good d/w on the section. There are alot of scenarios on there that are of the same caliber.

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I even agree with Auron, for once. You're so 'OMG TLL is the greatest thing ever, nothing and nobody can ever beat it' and that's- ridiculous. Anyone can do it if he, like I said, puts the time, effort, and research into it. And like I said, TLL is excellent, is a great scenario, but there are and will always be other scenarios which are as good. In the future, some might even be better.

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I agree. I probably won't be around for AoE 3, orprob. just one or two scns.

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That's your opinion.

For the rest - prove it. I'd be pleased to see something better.

I wanted to stress (believe me, I know better what I wanted to stress) that it's not easy, not for you either, because that's what you sounded like.

Anyway, I don't care, as I said, I'd be pleased if you made something better, and moreover I know what I intend to write BTW.

Let's consider this as settled and not lead this further OT.

[This message has been edited by AoMPlayer000 (edited 02-01-2005 @ 01:55 PM).]

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what? Would I be a supernatural designer!?!?!?!??!?

Sincerely every time that I see my mates that have passed 4 exams more than me I regret having lost a so huge amount of time because of the realization of LL.
I'm not a supernatural designer, I'm a supernatural idler...

[This message has been edited by Oscar (edited 02-02-2005 @ 09:41 AM).]

^LOL

so you are saying you put the creation of an scenario over important test that will determine the future of yourself?

thats what happens when scenario designing becomes more than a hobbie but rather an obsession. but nevertheless, loosing those 4 test was worth it since you did an awesome scenario, Oscar!

So yes oscar, you are a supernatural designer with skills no one has ever seen in AoM before, and what does Idler mean? sorry but i'm not originally from USA either

It wasn't worth it. IMO Oscar don't sacrifice your future for scenario designing. I design because I'm in school, and we have time for 1-2 hours a day for it, but once I go to university I doubt I will be doing it anymore.