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Topic Subject: How many stones for the one thousand stones trick?
posted 05-22-07 06:44 EST (US)   
Hello everyone,
I was just having some trouble with the one thousand stones trick. I wanted to have a map with snow, and maybe some other things with hops, wheat or fences, but I placed over two thousand stones already, and none have gone invisible. I don't know if I'm using the wrong stone, or maybe I just need to place more stones.
Could somebody please help me?

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posted 05-22-07 09:11 EST (US)     1 / 9  
Hello
In answer to your question im not sure of the exact number needed but i think its closer to 2000.

the picture below will show you which rocks to place, its best to use the smallest brush size so they dont take up too much room.


hope that helps you,
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posted 05-22-07 11:06 EST (US)     2 / 9  
Hai von schimidit, i have a template map for the thousand stones trick posted in the dwonloads section but if you are placing stones on a map you already working on then try placing some more small stones and i am personally finding it impossible to have snow on higher terrain.

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posted 05-22-07 11:18 EST (US)     3 / 9  
Why are you having trouble with snow on high terain?

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posted 05-22-07 12:37 EST (US)     4 / 9  
When i create foam and use the 1000 stone trick to freeze it and lift it to higher terrain the snow will disappear .

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posted 05-22-07 13:22 EST (US)     5 / 9  
well don't you only need it in water, not foam?

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posted 05-22-07 13:48 EST (US)     6 / 9  
Creating snow on a crusader map is much different and harder. It doesn't have the foam tool to allow easier snow making. Instead one has to raise the level of ground to make foam. And unlike stronghold.if the snow is touched by any of the elevation tools, then it's gone. I've been working on a crusader invasion map (PYOK) that featured lot of snow on middle platue. Painstaking.

More than 1000 stones can be placed on a map before it reaches it's limit. One has to be careful where to start placing the stones.
posted 05-23-07 11:42 EST (US)     7 / 9  
Suraj could you give me some help with this.

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posted 05-23-07 13:51 EST (US)     8 / 9  
Okay, now i have another question.

How do make good snow? Like in Mr Reaper's Antarctica map?

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posted 05-24-07 11:14 EST (US)     9 / 9  
I call it the 2000 stone trick due to some experimentation I did which I detailed in an SD forum post. Basically I found that the freezing effect occurs when you try to place the 2000th stone.

I placed 1999 small stones on a map in a regular way.

I could not place the 2000th stone.

Most people call it thw 1000 stone trick. But I am a bit of a pedant

There is a Stronghold Knights atricle on the subject: 1,000 Stones Printing Press, an aricle Submitted by Koen Francois, Aubergine. Based o­n original ideas by Lord Yoshi and Silvani.

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