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? what is that?

He's suggesting that this thread belongs in the off-topic forum called the Town's Crier, not in GSD here.

About the century mixup:

When we say, "we are in the 21st century", we mean we are within that time period, not beyond it. This applies to all the years that count towards making the 21st century. Your definition would apply if we say "we have completed 21 centuries."

Hence, the first century was hit when we struck Year 100 CE. So within years 0–100, we were "in the 1st century" i.e. within the years that made up that century.

Hope this makes sense.

When I read the topic I expected this to be another Pears thread.

Moved.

as someone may say. the year 0-100 are counted as 1 century but mathematically 1 century requires 10 decades.

So year 50AD falls within the first ten decades, assuming we take 0AD as the beginning.

If you lived in 5 AD, you lived in the first recorded century, aptly named the first century. Not the 0th century because that doesn't make sense. Counting forward, we live in the 21st recorded century.

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I had wondered the logic behind numerical century titles, too. Thanks for clearing it up!

I read the title of this as the system being dated. As in, the system here at AoKH. I thought someone was going to try and have me deposed!

Felix... *sigh*

When we say, "we are in the 21st century", we mean we are within that time period, not beyond it. This applies to all the years that count towards making the 21st century. Your definition would apply if we say "we have completed 21 centuries."

but we are not within that time period for a century is 10 blocks of 10 years = 100 years (1 Century), The turn of the 21st century in reality is the year 2100? Not the year 2000 as the year 2000 is the turn of 20th century.

"we have completed 21 centuries"
"we are in the 21st century"

We are at 20 Centuries and are 87 years away from entering the 21st century!

1-99ad = 0.1 - 0.9
100ad = 1
150ad = 1.5
200ad = 2
250ad = 2.5


When the Year 2100 hits, It has finally turned INTO the 21st century for it has 20 full centurys behind it.

Modern man referring to the 20th century as the 21st century causes needless confusion to the comparable mathematical system behind the century and decade count. This means at the year 100ad we are calling it the the 2nd century even though 2 centuries = 200 years.

I think there is a great possibility everybody is wrong. LOL

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You presume that the first century would be the 0th century. You cannot have a 0th century, ergo we call it the first century, the century following it the second century, and the present century the 21st century. There was also no year 0. In chronology time skips from 1 BC to 1 AD. This is what you are failing to grasp.

Regarding the term 'turn of the century', the meaning itself is unclear and can be used either way:

According to the Chicago Manual of Style, there is no common agreement as to meaning of the phrase "turn of the n-th century." For instance, if a statement describes an event as taking place "at the turn of the 18th century," it could refer to a period around the year 1700 or one around the year 1800.

Your definition of century is a bit misleading, LethalGene. A century is a "span" of 100 years, not just the end point of that span. Therefore, within the period of the 10 blocks of 10 years, we are within that century (i.e. 21st century for years 2001-2100).

Ok, I understand, Thanks Kor. but i still disagree with its ethics. Here is a problem that i am sure is common in history students.


For Example:

Exam Question: Who is the famous King who ruled England during the 15th Century and from which dates?

Student Answer: Henry the 8th (1491-1547) WRONG!!

because we taught the student to use the wrong non-mathematical analogy of the measurement of a century. Henry the 8th was a 16th century king. Even though he never saw the 1600s (16 lots of 10 decades since the beginning of recorded roman christian history)

Everything PRIOR to the 1st Century(100AD) should be referred to as "The Build up to the 1st Century" and then on the year 100 "The Turn of the First Century"

Lol

I do get your meanings, But even on an Abacus a century is counted as one single bead, if you add half a bead the maths does not add up to a set of 10 decades so therefor must not be classed as a whole.

Even if we are using rounding up logic. This still shouldn't justify our century counters to be 100 years ahead of the actual date. As everything before 1 century and a half (1.5) is rounded down, and everything above (1.5) rounded up.

Even So, We still have not been recording the date for 2100 years or (100 x 21).



So I shall Keep debating this with the many historians i meet, As ... (lol) WE LIVE IN THE 20th CENTURY AND NOBODY CAN COUNT TO 20!?!?! It equals 2000 years!! 2000/100 = 20!! 20 CENTURYS TADAAAA

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I am watching Prison Break. I am ten minutes into the second episode, Episode 2. The episode is still called episode two, even though it's not finished yet.

If you asked me what happened in episode 2, I would be daft to explain what happened in the third episode.

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So year 50AD falls within the first ten decades, assuming we take 0AD as the beginning.

There is no 0 AD, you know?

For Example:

Exam Question: Who is the famous King who ruled England during the 15th Century and from which dates?

Student Answer: Henry the 8th (1491-1547) WRONG!!

This would be a terrible question in an exam.

0 BCE then

So OP, how many completed centuries have passed since the birth of Christ? When you add one to that number, you understand why we're in the 21st century

Lol.

If a century is 100 years, for the first hundred years, we are in the first century. In the year 101, we have completed the first century and begun the second century. We are no longer in the first century, it is finished.

In 2013, we have completed 20 centuries. We are no longer in the 20th century, it is over. We are now in the middle of the 21st century.

I can see not getting it at first, but once it is explained to you, you really are just being too stubborn to admit you were wrong.

As far as I know there is no 0BC either, calculatiion of times jumped from -1 to 1.

IIRC the Anno Domini system came into place long after the death of JC

I am watching Prison Break.

Incredible show!

Every single person who has posted has pointed out all that needs to be said. 2000 years makes 20 complete centuries. We're now more than 12 years into the next century (The 21st century). As such,

2000/100 = 20!! 20 COMPLETED* CENTURIES AND* 13* UNACCOUNTED* YEARS* THAT* ARE* LOGICALLY* PART* OF* THE* NEXT* CENTURY*, TADAAAA!

FTFY

JC

JC? Really? You make him sound like an electropop DJ.

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JC Denton is the protagonist of Deus Ex. Who is this Christ you are talking about?

I was personally thinking of Julius Caesar.