RELEASED!

You should improve the map design, as it seems very average. Perhaps add better eye candy or elevation. Can't say about anything else, because Multiplayer Scenarios aren't my cup of tea.

Sounds good, but I agree with Arnas on the map design. Definetily needs more terrain mixing and eye candy.

But Arnas you read that these screenshots are work in progress?


I like the idea, Lildbehr, but I'm unsure if it would work.

Sounds like a game me and some other guys from Blackforest Studios used to play. We all took command of one nation in the map and used diplomacy to win. Sure, you could amass an army and attack like a RM match, but the other 6 players would kill you if you tried.

Sounds like a very cool idea.

You should improve the map design, as it seems very average.

I have, these are just images from earlier. Not quite done with the eye candy yet, though. There of the 95%.

Sounds like a game me and some other guys from Blackforest Studios used to play. We all took command of one nation in the map and used diplomacy to win. Sure, you could amass an army and attack like a RM match, but the other 6 players would kill you if you tried.

You mean like the "Mare Nostrum" type of game right?

I like the idea, Lildbehr, but I'm unsure if it would work.

I'm actually a little scared about using that many triggers as I've heard rumours of Multiplayer-maps not doing so well with extensive triggering. Also, I've heard something about the AI not working properly sometimes. Or did UP fix that?

ah yes. Joshua and us used to play Serva and seas of egressa, which LB was inspired by

ah yes. Joshua and us used to play Serva and seas of egressa, which LB was inspired by

Which in turn, sort of inspired me to do this.
But I can assure you it will be quite different from your standard diplo-game.

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Basse, you have a memory like an unforgiving god.

UP should have fixed any AI issues. In 1.0c, it was almost impossible to keep AI units still, but UP fixed this bug.

UP should have fixed any AI issues. In 1.0c, it was almost impossible to keep AI units still, but UP fixed this bug.

Great! Then there is one thing less to worry about.

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Update:
Two new pictures posted! Get them above, ya'll!
I'm moving forward like a crazy train.
Also figured out how to make a voting session. It took some time though. Making triggers for seven players sure is tedious work...
Luckily I can duplicate most of it in TS.

Update:
Additional trigger work and tweaks.
Can soon begin to consider testing this online with real players. Also MAP SHOT!

Need some help? I am very bad at map designs, but much better at others.

It will have to wait a bit as I've signed up for the AoK Vanilla Competition. I'll be in touch or will write here when things eventually come around.

UPDATE:
Things are once again in motion. I've added over a hundred new triggers last week and have now successfully made it possible to play several rounds in a row. Still much left though. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to make the diplomacy changes for the coup-part.

This is what I want, but can't figure out how to do:

Let's say Player 1 is king. (He'll always be the head of the Alliance.)

Four players, namely the General, Commander, Bishop and Constable are to either support the king or fight for the opposition. There is the Alliance and the Opposition.

How do I make the diplomacy changes for all participating players? Changing it towards the king is easy, but how to go about with everyone else? It seems to add up to a lot of triggers...

This sounds like fun; I love board-game type strategy games.

In regards to your last question, Lildbehr, These are my thoughts: You have 4 players who each have a choice between 2 possibilities (Alliance vs Opposition). Mathematically, there are 2^4 = 16 permutations, and therefore you require 16 triggers. Each will have 4 conditions (is P1 alliance? Y/N, is P2 alliance Y/N etc...) and each could have up to 20 effects (since you must set diplomacy for the 4 players + 1 king, to each other player; 5 * 4 = 20). I say up to 20, because you should only need to have an effect if diplomacy changes (i.e. if the default is that everyone is already on Alliance, you only need to add effects to change diplomacy for players choosing to go Opposition), so you should have much less than 20 effects for most triggers.

There may be (probably is) a more elegant way of doing it, but you will have to make sure you account for each players decision with respect to every other players decision.

Conclusion: Assuming I understood everything correctly, I think you could knock this out in an hour or two's time.

Thank you! I think I know how to solve this now, though I might use a more crude method.

I will add seven triggers (one for each player) that determine if you are against the king.
i.e.

IF YOU ARE RESISTING:
Trigger 1-7 (One per player), OFF, NO LOOP
C: Object in area, 1 unit
E: Create Object: 1 Head
E: Activate trigger 8-15

Trigger 8, (Between P1 and P2) OFF, NO LOOP
C: Object in area, Player 1, 1 Head (Controls if you are participating in the fight.)
C: Object in area, Player 2, 1 Flag A (Flag A is for supporting the king)
E: Change Diplomacy, P1 to P2 = Enemy

Trigger 9-15
Same Conditions and effects but for different players towards player 1.

In the end this will amount up to around 60 triggers for all players that don't support the king.

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UPDATE: About 75% of the triggers are done and I've added a final touch to the map design. The "Coup part" is still in the works. It's about fifty percent done. I've also started testing the map with randomly tasked AI players. (Mostly so that I can find bugs.) So far it's looking good. My goal as it is now is to be done with all of this in February.

UPDATE: Triggers are almost done. Have succeeded in making the game last several turns. Still needs a lot of testing and refining. Soon enough I will put out a teaser video on Youtube.

UPDATE: New gameplay teaser on Youtube!

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Looks very interesting and original. There doesn't seem to be much fighting involved though so I probably won't be great at it. I'm a hack n slash type of player.

There will be parts of fighting each other, but than isn't the main focus of the game.

Some cool concepts there. I thought of similar systems like it in the past but it always ended up being too complicated :P. Good luck with it.

UPDATE:
Going to put this up for a first play test in the next two weeks to follow. Hopefully there won't be that many bugs.
Get your Gameranger in order and let's have a good time!!


A download link will be provided for it here, including what is needed to play this map. (AI, Map, Instructions and hopefully some good sounds. All in a .zip file.)

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UPDATE:

Playtesting!
Get your gameranger fixed. The file can be downloaded in the post above.

You can also add me on gameranger if you want. My nickname is Lildbehr of coarse.

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UPDATE:

Finally playtested on more than one computer. Took some time to get some people together to do it. Still only tested with four players but it Works like a charm!

Hah! Junta? i been trying to find someone who has that boardgame, u happen to have it? im trying to print out the map board, but i would like the first edition one, from the 70s with realistic angle drawings im on GR too, id love to help u test this map sometime!
cheers

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A friend of mine has it, but we only play it rarely when we are six players or more. His edition looks like this:

We've also added new posts of office if we are more than seven players, at most we've been eight players. (It takes even more time to play.)

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YOure great man! i sent u an email hope u see it, also do u think i could find english rules somewhere on the webz? could i be so lucky that your friend be a generous boardgamegeek-enthusiast and upload the rules?
cheers!

I'll see him again in two weeks, maybe I could borrow his rules and copy them and send them to your e-mail.

It's in english btw, not german.

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I'd love to check this out. Let me know if/when you need another person to play. Do you use steam or gameranger?

It doesn't work on steam/HD yet, it only works with latest UP. I'll try to get some people together this weekend to play on gameranger hopefully we'll be at least five players.

If you want to check it out and also get the latest UP (Bless you scripter64!) check one of the above posts.

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Darn, that might be a problem for me. I got the collectors edition disc which allows me to play with no cd, but also means I can't change from patch 1.0c. I suppose I could reinstall the game with my regular cd, but I'd rather not, since all my work is done in 1.0c anyway.

Just one last question about junta, would u mind also scanning the card deck (if you have the time of course), ill upload it to boardgamegeek, so all can just print-and-cut it, it would be an enormous favour to many out there! By the way, what is your name on GR?
cheers

Same as my nick here. Lildbehr, and yes, I'll just have to dust of my old scanner

Darn, that might be a problem for me. I got the collectors edition disc which allows me to play with no cd, but also means I can't change from patch 1.0c. I suppose I could reinstall the game with my regular cd, but I'd rather not, since all my work is done in 1.0c anyway.

My CD broke years ago.

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